Re: Check out Scientist Kelman wins libel suit against Mold Queen Kramer - LA Dai

[Guest guest]

Once I saw about what the judge would and wouldn't allow into evidence, I

almost quit reading. Money talks, the truth walks.

I am a mold survivor, barely. My late mom's dog did not make it.

They talk about people in good health not being affected. THAT CAN NEVER BE

PROVEN, AND THEY KNOW THAT.

Most of us were in decent health BEFORE the initial exposure. " Mold

Queen? " What a friggin dig. Keep up the good fight. Biff Byrum

[Guest guest]

I think it is a shame. I posted my comment.

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Of course they would. They are part of a very biased newspaper chain ( " New

Times " ) that in my opinion tries to function as a voice not-so-subtly

promoting gentrification and the displacement of the poor and middle class

in the cities they operate in.

They are typically allied with big real estate developers.

[Guest guest]

How experienced or knowledgable is Jill . I re-read this article and it

contains a number of generalizations and unsupported references. Where are her

credentils? Is she the " Anti-Mold Queen " ?

[Guest guest]

Sharon/All: My response to " Scientist Kelman [that's a laugh] Wins " LAWeekly

article:

The ONLY congratulations Dr. Kelman deserves is that he won a court decision

based upon five (5) individual words reflecting whether or not he had changed

his testimony from one trial to another. The Court is “black and white” to that

specific evaluation, no science, no other influences. That is the way the court

operates. The molecular sciences of various fields of complex study (i.e.,

genetics, biophysics, and biochemistry, and others) that confirm scientifically

and medically what Ms. Kramer has been dedicating her life to are also very

specific and factual. Multiple hospitalization records relating to nosocomial

diseases (i.e., hospital-caused and or contributing microbial factors) attest

that many a person can be immune competent entering a hospital environment only

to suffer respiratory micro fungi (i.e., microscopic live-celled mold and yeast)

exposures detrimental to health. To criticize Ms. Kramer as a " Mold Queen " and

characterize her or any other person who studies and reports the serious and

deadly health affects of inhaled micro fungi as " misguided " is to demonstrate

pure ignorance of the molecular sciences. Ms. Kramer may have lost, to my

understanding, ONE PENNY on an utterly stupid SLAPP litigation matter, but she

has actually won in another sense, that micro fungi inhalation, even in

immunocompetent people can cause serious health risks and can lead to deadly

outcomes - from the very young to the elderly. I would " LOVE " the chance to be

challenged in a court of law over what I have just stated! Why, because the

evidence is overwhelming on many scientific fronts, and gaining confidence

almost daily. For instance, in genetics micro fungi are being used to analyze

disease causation because of the fact that these live-celled pathogens are

structurally and chemically close to the human cell composition. It is not hard

for any scientist and/or medical doctor to observe just how rapidly micro fungi

do their natural job of decomposing a human body after a person has died; it is

within mere hours depending upon environmental factors, and since the body is

not breathing this decomposition activity takes place within the human body, not

external of it under normal circumstances. So why is it so hard for the common

man to realize how dangerous respiratory exposures are to a human being? The

general amount of exposure is not as much a concern to medical scientists as are

the biological factors and activities taking place at a cellular level inside

their patient. People do not get sick immediately, under usual circumstances, it

is human cells that get sick and it takes time for that cellular sickness to

spread from cell to cell until human illness symptoms begin to appear. This is

through an adverse chemical transfer process that takes place between human

cells and an attacking chemical challenge brought on by reacting pathogens

(i.e., primarily molds and bacteria, and genetic material based viruses). Can

few pathogens generate mass cellular disease over time? Yes. How do you think

disease starts? The company Dr. Kelman is president and a principal of called

VeriTox, Inc. (formerly GlobalTox, Inc.) is a company that attempted to

introduce a " rat study " into testimony in the Sacramento Superior Court. (

Harold, et al. v. California Casualty Insurance Company, et al. Superior Court

of the State of California for the County of Sacramento, Case No. 02AS04291,

April 2006) In this -Frye evidence credibility examination hearing the

Honorable P. Kenny, Judge of the Superior Court of

California, County of Sacramento disallowed it. Why? It is not supported by the

scientific community to a level of peer-supported confidence. I have personally

met and spoken with Ms. Kramer; I consider her an outstanding

community-conscious person and friend. She is a very tough and savvy

investigator and prolific document researcher. Her work has provided a

substantial amount of useful detail as to the inner workings of politics and

methodology used by various associations (i.e., medical and otherwise) to

subvert or skirt the facts/truth about the health dangers of micro fungi

exposures. It is about time responsible media venues such as yours get on board

and start protecting and preserving the health and safety of human beings

instead of literally punishing the public for challenging what is absolutely

ignorant in 21st century America.

R. Haney

Bio-Health Research Psychologist

Congratulations to Sharon Kramer, you have done an outstanding community service

to people everywhere.

Doug

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So basically the only evidence aloud pertaining in this case was to

him changing his testimony and that is why all other info was denied.

What happened on the Veritox part of the case. If Sharon had filed a

case that this man or company is hurting people by writing the wrong

info in these journals and getting paid as defense witnesses at the

same time would she have been able to keep her evidence in this

case. I know it gets very technical what is aloud and not and some

times it is difficult to understand the reasons. I don't understand

why we can't just go after the government for negligence or not doing

anything to help people-- just as people have for autism, or

governments go after the EPA, etc. Or at least how they fail to tell

that healthy people can become ill, not just sick, infants, elderly,

or even chemical sensitive such as FEMA just did. I think we were all

healthy first then got candida, asthma, migraines, neurological

problems, etc.

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> Sharon/All: My response to " Scientist Kelman [that's a laugh] Wins "

LAWeekly article:

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[Guest guest]

The Federal Government enjoys immunity from some kinds of lawsuits but can

be sued in others.

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know the specifics, but there are lots of web

pages out there on this issue..

for example..

http://law.jrank.org/pages/6809/Federal-Tort-Claims-Act.html

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:25 AM, ldelp84227 <ldelp84227@...> wrote:

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> times it is difficult to understand the reasons. I don't understand

> why we can't just go after the government for negligence or not doing

> anything to help people-- just as people have for autism, or

> governments go after the EPA, etc. Or at least how they fail to tell

> that healthy people can become ill, not just sick, infants, elderly,

> or even chemical sensitive such as FEMA just did. I think we were all

> healthy first then got candida, asthma, migraines, neurological

> problems, etc.

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