Re: Re: serching for Holy Grail-no more reactions

[Guest guest]

Dr Zeims protocol, its not a cure but it turns it down.   This protocol is the

most recommended by the U of Washingtons Moleculor science dept.   Key Pharmacy

out of Kent Washington.   I'm sure someone in this group can post that fun info

again.

Highly recommend it.  Its not a cure but it does help.

Here's to feeling better!

a

[Guest guest]

Have you tried Lamisil?  I had some of the same problems that you do.  I tried

many things over several years including other antifungals and eventually ended

up on Lamisil.  I didn't think it would work since nothing else had helped, so I

was very surprised that Lamisil worked.  The best part is that my cognitive

problems have improved. 

[] Re: serching for Holy Grail-no more reactions

I thought I posted this before-but could not even find it in sent mail-

Does anyone have any hope for not just a full recovery-but to prevent

more reactions??. My life has been a decent into hell ,more and more

sensitization to mold-now 2 mold spores rubbing together make me very

sick-I have been mostly living out of doors for the last 2 years-and am

now in the desert. I can get better by living outside and taking CSM,

but I can't seem to stay that way-whenever I try to live inside-even

in totally clean and new environments- sooner or later something goes

wrong. Extreme avoidence is my total life-style. I finally have a great

Dr=PHD in Mycology-and he understands Shoemaker-he can re-grow your

liver or toes with his ALA infusions and low-dose Naltrexone-

glutithione, but stoping these reactions from continuing seems to be

impossible. I told him about ThraserPHD idea that a active

colinization in the body causing continued reactions-and he did alot of

tests-I am clean. He is willing to try anything? does anyone have a DR

who has a clue???????? ??

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What kind of fungal infection did you have?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:14 AM, <brianc8452@...> wrote:

> Have you tried Lamisil? I had some of the same problems that you do. I

> tried many things over several years including other antifungals and

> eventually ended up on Lamisil. I didn't think it would work since nothing

> else had helped, so I was very surprised that Lamisil worked. The best part

> is that my cognitive problems have improved.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was exposed to numerous molds and mycotoxins in my home.  I was diagnosed with

mycotoxicosis and toxic encephalopathy and have suffered other health problems

due to my exposure.

Re: [] Re: serching for Holy Grail-no more reactions

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What kind of fungal infection did you have?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:14 AM, <brianc8452 (DOT) com> wrote:

> Have you tried Lamisil? I had some of the same problems that you do. I

> tried many things over several years including other antifungals and

> eventually ended up on Lamisil. I didn't think it would work since nothing

> else had helped, so I was very surprised that Lamisil worked. The best part

> is that my cognitive problems have improved.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe 's blood tests weren't done correctly or maybe her blood wasn't sent

to a lab that knows how to do the right tests.  There are only a few labs in the

country who have the ability to do these tests.  As for me, my story takes place

over several years.  It took a long time and lots of wasted time on many doctors

who refused to help.  I spent a lot of time reading and researching and talking

to people on my own.  I had lots of blood tests and other medical tests (Xrays,

CT Scans, etc.).  It would take forever to explain how I finally got to the

Lamisil and everything that happened prior to that.  I was so surprised that

Lamisil worked for me that I just wanted to let other people know about it in

case it would work for them.

[Guest guest]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, <brianc8452@...> wrote:

> " I was exposed to numerous molds and mycotoxins in my home. I was

diagnosed with mycotoxicosis and toxic encephalopathy and have suffered

other health problems due to my exposure. "

As far as I know, that would not explain what you are describing with

Lamisil.

Do you think you had some kind of hidden mycosis? Or candidaisis? (not

uncommon with mold survivors)

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[Guest guest]

Sure, living outdoors you are going to avoid indoor air, and any

possible concentration of indoor air contaminants..

Indoor concentrations can be much higher.. Not just of mold, there are

a million things in modern buildings that can make people sick if they

don't get enough fresh air. But I personally think mold is one of the

worst.. because of the long term effects on so many different

systems..

Outdoors nothing is confined.

Outdoors, even in hot, humid climates, the humidity rarely reaches the

levels you can get inside of a *closed* wall cavity.. (99%!) or a

closed-up building with a leak..

(That closed, wet wall cavity is a super dangerous situation, because

its extremely high humidity situations i.e. > 80% - where mycotoxin

production is highest..)

But I don't understand what you're saying about being sick out of

doors if you were " colonized " .. (mycosis? aspergillosis? candidaisis?

Other mycotic infection?)

Mold hypersensitivity means you get sick from the molds (or MVOCs

associated with them) - You can get sick outside from mold " in the

air " .. Just ask the people in nonflooded neighborhoods of New Orleans

after Katrina..

I got sick last fall after walks in some particularly leafy (moldy!?)

woods.. Driving through a recently flooded town can make me ill..

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:11 PM, <kdeanstudios@...> wrote:

> I am exploring it-but if I was colonized, you would think I would be

> sick out of doors also-but living outside I get very healthy-anybody

> have any other ideas????????????????

> LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> >

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[Guest guest]

ok-i do too! but can anyone explain this to me-mold is more my problem, and I

thought that near the ocean or beach is the worst! Should I be looking there?

> From: llaci2003 <jjaksic@...>

> Subject: [] Re: serching for Holy Grail-no more reactions

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:45 PM

> I have to say I feel the healthiest out in the ocean or at

> the beach....

> llaci

[Guest guest]

how do you find that out?

I've been tested for my sensitivity to a variety of different molds in one test

I took and there wasn't one I wasn't off the charts sensitive to.

Is this the type of test you mean?

> From: who <jeaninem660@...>

> Subject: [] Re: serching for Holy Grail-no more reactions

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:10 PM

> Michal , if you know which types of mold affect you

> bad you may

> be able to find out by state which molds are most prevelent

> and at what

> times of the year, maybe set something up where you can

> move back and

> forth .?

> >

> > ok-i do too! but can anyone explain this to me-mold is

> more my

> problem, and I thought that near the ocean or beach is the

> worst!

> Should I be looking there?

[Guest guest]

A metal boat out in the middle of the ocean might be good, or sleeping

on the beach..

But whenever wood or gypsum wallboard gets involved...and they just add water...

Ocean air is fresh.. better than air from moldy leaves, thats for sure..

Are the rental buildings well maintained? Free of leaks? What is their

repair history?

A tip.. always try to look in the basement..

[Guest guest]

Isn't that all mold types, toxinogenic, non-toxinogenic, allergic,

etc. all lumped together?

So, combined spore counts show less than I think we would hope..

Also, many asp/pen species are too small, and stachybotrys can be

growing happily and not shed practically any spores..

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:44 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> allergy or IgE,IgG testing, some states keep tract of mold counts

> year around, but some dont. I posted a map once that you could click

> on a state and get the info. on that state like which molds are worse

> at certain times of the year. well see if I can locate it.

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