Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > michelle I also thought about the mortality aspect of this today. I assume, for what it is worth, the those dying from MS relate statistically to those that get MS. So high mortality means high incidence. low mortality means low incidence. Anyway, what does Japan (and the rest) do that we don't? Must be something, - > hi all, > > i had to comment on this. i read the chart, AND THE DISCLAIMER AT THE > END. most of us will not die from ms, and > few even from complications directly attributable to ms. > > stay well, > michelle > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 maybe they have different reporting criteria.... maybe they don't report things the same.... i have no idea.... michelle > Anyway, what does Japan (and the rest) do that we don't? > > Must be something, > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > michelle I'm assuming the data is valid for the moment. I think it's diet. Just a guess of course. (maybe not,climate??) If it's diet you all can change that in your lives, as many here have done. - __________________________________________________ >> > Anyway, what does Japan (and the rest) do that we don't? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > MS prevalence worldwide (poor quality): http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/ms_world.html _________________________________________________________________ Statistics and MS. http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/msstats.html Excerpt: So what has this got to do with MS? I shall use this story to illustrate why caution needs to be exercised when interpreting statistics. I hope to explain the methods that statisticians use without getting too mathematical, but first we need to look at why statistics are so relevant to MS research. __________________________________________________________________ http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/facts.html Excerpt: Despite the failure to identify which genes are involved, it is still a very reasonable hypothesis to say that a genetic configuration that conveys a predisposition to get MS is more common within some population groups than it is within others. Studies done in Scotland and Canada have shown that MS has a particularly high prevalence within peoples of European descent - British and Scandinavian especially. Within peoples of British descent, it is particularly common in those of Celtic descent. It is unknown within Innuit peoples. It is rare in Japanese and Chinese peoples... _______________________________________________________________ Talk quietly among yourselves. Back over the weekend, - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I think the majority of people with MS do not take the time to study diet, exercise, supplements, etc...they JUST do what the neurologist suggests and take their drugs. I am finding that more and more with people that I met who have MS (not necessarily on the internet, but different support groups and such). They are ALL waiting for a pharmacutical company to find the CURE!!! I was talking to a guy the other day who is taking interferons and I could barely understand his speech as it was so slurred from MS. I asked if he took anything else, supplements, diet changes anything and his answer was " no, my neuro. suggested statin drugs and I may try that " . I was horrified - no wonder he is doing so poorly! Anyhow, I think this group here is a minority, not majority. So many MSers don't even know what to supplement with and have NEVER even heard of glyconutrients! So wrt the statistics, I am not going to be one!!! Roe > > MS prevalence worldwide (poor quality): > > http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/ms_world.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Statistics and MS. > > http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/msstats.html > > Excerpt: > > So what has this got to do with MS? > > I shall use this story to illustrate why caution needs to be > exercised when interpreting statistics. I hope to explain the > methods that statisticians use without getting too mathematical, but > first we need to look at why statistics are so relevant to MS > research. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/facts.html > > Excerpt: > > Despite the failure to identify which genes are involved, it is > still a very reasonable hypothesis to say that a genetic > configuration that conveys a predisposition to get MS is more common > within some population groups than it is within others. Studies done > in Scotland and Canada have shown that MS has a particularly high > prevalence within peoples of European descent - British and > Scandinavian especially. Within peoples of British descent, it is > particularly common in those of Celtic descent. It is unknown within > Innuit peoples. It is rare in Japanese and Chinese peoples... > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Talk quietly among yourselves. > > Back over the weekend, > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Hey ~ Awesome post Makes one want to not have children in Norway...LOL... I feel that the many responses to the graph and site that you've posted were excellent also. Thanks! Rascal:)) > > hi all, > > i had to comment on this. i read the chart, AND THE DISCLAIMER AT THE > END. as i am in pathology, perform autopsies, and understand " cause of > death " and other reporting criteria, i feel comfortable saying these > data probably mean very little. most of us will not die from ms, and > few even from complications directly attributable to ms. please don't > take these statistics too seriously. > > stay well, > michelle > > > > > > http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mor_mul_scl_percap > > > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Roe wrote I think this group here is a minority, not majority. So many MSers don't even know what to supplement with and have NEVER even heard of glyconutrients! So wrt the statistics, I am not going to be one!!! Roe That is so true Roe. I used to be a member of another MS group and when I noticed how much I was improving after taking the glyconutrients, they just didn't want to know about it! I love being a member of this group because most people are so open minded about ways to improve your health. I have been on the glyconutrients since July 2005 and I am now walking without the aid of a walking stick and my legs keep getting stronger each day! Not bad considering I was told my condition was irreversible. Here is a good link which explains more about them http://www.livingsugars.com/ Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think that the per million people is the general population, not MSers. It must be as there aren't a million MSers here in the UK for example. 85,00-100,000 they claim in the UK. Re Japan. The UK has the highest ration of MS. Scotland is the worst in the world. Japan/Asia have very few cases. This is why environment/diet/genes/sunlight are key theu think. Cheers, Adam > > > michelle > > > I also thought about the mortality aspect of this today. > I assume, for what it is worth, the those dying from MS > relate statistically to those that get MS. > > So high mortality means high incidence. > low mortality means low incidence. > > Anyway, what does Japan (and the rest) do that we don't? > > Must be something, > > - > > > > > hi all, > > > > i had to comment on this. i read the chart, AND THE DISCLAIMER AT > THE > > END. most of us will not die from ms, and > > few even from complications directly attributable to ms. > > > stay well, > > michelle > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 > > > michelle > > > I'm assuming the data is valid for the moment. > I think it's & #65007;diet & #65007;. Just a guess of course. > (maybe not,climate??) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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