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Hi Everyone,

Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and ,

and cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her meds but we

finally got them down her.This has all been an enormous strain on me and

and Drake.I feel like Im on the verge of a meltdown.I called moms lbd dr and Im

waiting on the call back from him.She just isnt happy in her new surroundings.I

almost toulk her home the other day and I saw what it will do to all of us if

that happens.Drake was crushed, and That hurts me deeply.I wish I knew what to

do.I am getting the wheels turning for a possible future nursing home for mom.I

just dont know how much more fight I have left in all of this. is the most

amazing person Ive ever met, and shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is

on us through all of this may be too much.If any of you have any magic words

that can cure stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness, weariness, and,

fear just to

name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all well

and just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

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Oh, Ron, I hope it was just not one of her better days. I hope today will

be better. I'm assuming your Mom is on an anti-depressant? (It's hard to

keep up with everyone.)

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Hi Everyone,

Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and ,

and cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her meds but

we finally got them down her.This has all been an enormous strain on me and

and Drake.I feel like Im on the verge of a meltdown.I called moms

lbd dr and Im waiting on the call back from him.She just isnt happy in her

new surroundings.I almost toulk her home the other day and I saw what it

will do to all of us if that happens.Drake was crushed, and That hurts me

deeply.I wish I knew what to do.I am getting the wheels turning for a

possible future nursing home for mom.I just dont know how much more fight I

have left in all of this. is the most amazing person Ive ever met,

and shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is on us through all of

this may be too much.If any of you have any magic words that can cure

stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness, weariness, and, fear

just to

name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all

well and just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

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Ron, would and Drake be able to stay at your Mom's house? The

adjustment she is going through would be a big one for a person without LBD.

Gladys

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Hi Everyone,

Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and

, and cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her

meds but we finally got them down her.This has all been an enormous strain

on me and and Drake.I feel like Im on the verge of a meltdown.I

called moms lbd dr and Im waiting on the call back from him.She just isnt

happy in her new surroundings.I almost toulk her home the other day and I

saw what it will do to all of us if that happens.Drake was crushed, and That

hurts me deeply.I wish I knew what to do.I am getting the wheels turning for

a possible future nursing home for mom.I just dont know how much more fight

I have left in all of this. is the most amazing person Ive ever met,

and shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is on us through all of

this may be too much.If any of you have any magic words that can cure stress

depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness, weariness, and, fear just to

name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all

well and just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

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Ron, I hate to jump in here and give advice, since I

didn't have an experience of moving my husband more

than once. However, most medical people will tell you

that moving them once they have been moved is very

hard on them. When she first got to her new place,

she probably was in what they call the " honeymoon "

period, which my husband went through at the NH.

After awhile, they do get upset, but moving them again

might cause more problems, even though she might seem

to be okay for the first few days/weeks. I know it's

very hard to find a way to make them happy, since they

have a disease that isn't a happy disease. Have you

checked to see if there is a P.A.C.E. program in your

area? They will provide similar things that Hospice

does. If not, have you contacted Hospice yet for some

help? She is eligible if she is terminal and meets

some other criteria. Is she incontinent, need help

with bathing, meds, eating, etc.? If so, that might

be the way to go. They will come 2-3 times a week,

bathe, help with feeding, provide Depends, meds, air

mattress, gerri chair, lift, etc., if those are

necessary. It would take a lot of the burden off you

two for a few days a week and would allow you to get

out for some R & R. You don't want to get to the place

you both can't handle it.

Just my suggestions for whatever they are worth.

JuneC

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> Ron, would and Drake be able to stay at your

> Mom's house? The

> adjustment she is going through would be a big one

> for a person without LBD.

>

> Gladys

>

> -- need some hope

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she

> got irate with me and

> , and cried and stayed in bed all day.She

> refuse to eat or take her

> meds but we finally got them down her.This has all

> been an enormous strain

> on me and and Drake.I feel like Im on the

> verge of a meltdown.I

> called moms lbd dr and Im waiting on the call back

> from him.She just isnt

> happy in her new surroundings.I almost toulk her

> home the other day and I

> saw what it will do to all of us if that

> happens.Drake was crushed, and That

> hurts me deeply.I wish I knew what to do.I am

> getting the wheels turning for

> a possible future nursing home for mom.I just dont

> know how much more fight

> I have left in all of this. is the most

> amazing person Ive ever met,

> and shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is

> on us through all of

> this may be too much.If any of you have any magic

> words that can cure stress

> depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness,

> weariness, and, fear just to

> name a few, please please pass them along to

> me.Otherwise I hope your all

> well and just please keep us in your prayers.

> Ron

>

>

>

>

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Ron, I know how deeply you feel your mother's confusion and grief at leaving her

home.

You made the move with all good intentions for her as well as the 3 of you. You

are ready

to start a new chapter in your own life. Please do not feel guilty for thoughts

of nh for

Mom. There are now 4 of you. You have to consider what is everyone's best

interest, not

just Mom's. I know it goes against where you were as a single son. You are now

much

more. I'm not saying nh is the answer. I just want you to feel more

comfortable with even

thinking those thoughts. Thinking of you here where the snow has just started

once

again.

, Oakville Ont.

Mother, age 92, died Aug. 12/06 after 13 year decline from PDD

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and

, and

cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her meds but we

finally got them

down her.This has all been an enormous strain on me and and Drake.I feel

like Im

on the verge of a meltdown.I called moms lbd dr and Im waiting on the call back

from

him.She just isnt happy in her new surroundings.I almost toulk her home the

other day

and I saw what it will do to all of us if that happens.Drake was crushed, and

That hurts me

deeply.I wish I knew what to do.I am getting the wheels turning for a possible

future

nursing home for mom.I just dont know how much more fight I have left in all of

this. is the most amazing person Ive ever met, and shes wonderful with

mom but

the strain that is on us through all of this may be too much.If any of you have

any magic

words that can cure stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness,

weariness, and,

fear just to

> name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all

well and

just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

>

>

>

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One more thought. She could be reacting to the recent anaesthetic/any drugs

given

during her last hospital run. Or maybe even a UTI?

It is literally " pouring " snow! However, I'm counting on not having to shovel

this mess.

Temps hopefully will co-operate there.

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> > Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and

, and

> cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her meds but we

finally got

them

> down her.This has all been an enormous strain on me and and Drake.I

feel like

Im

> on the verge of a meltdown.I called moms lbd dr and Im waiting on the call

back from

> him.She just isnt happy in her new surroundings.I almost toulk her home the

other day

> and I saw what it will do to all of us if that happens.Drake was crushed, and

That hurts

me

> deeply.I wish I knew what to do.I am getting the wheels turning for a possible

future

> nursing home for mom.I just dont know how much more fight I have left in all

of

> this. is the most amazing person Ive ever met, and shes wonderful with

mom but

> the strain that is on us through all of this may be too much.If any of you

have any magic

> words that can cure stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness,

weariness, and,

> fear just to

> > name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all

well and

> just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

> >

> >

> >

>

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Ron, Wish i had some words of wisdom, all i know is that this will pass. You'll

get some more good days then you'll have another difficult one. I don't mean

this to be in any way negative, this is just how the illness is and also given

her recent hospital stay, this could add to her confusion and frustration.

You have amazing support in and the trick is not to let it come between

you, i had the same with Danny,my husband, when my granda was here. Your life

revolves around the illness and if you let it it will consume you. vent your

frustration, cry, scream, come here and do the lot because we will always be

here for you as a means of escape.

I know you can talk to Sandie on the phone and if you ever feel the need to

speak to a mad scottish woman then Sandie is free to pass on my home

number........all venting, screaming etc will be listened to!!...LOL...

Take care

.xx

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Hi Everyone,

Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me and ,

and cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or take her meds but we

finally got them down her.This has all been an enormous strain on me and

and Drake.I feel like Im on the verge of a meltdown.I called moms lbd dr and Im

waiting on the call back from him.She just isnt happy in her new surroundings.I

almost toulk her home the other day and I saw what it will do to all of us if

that happens.Drake was crushed, and That hurts me deeply.I wish I knew what to

do.I am getting the wheels turning for a possible future nursing home for mom.I

just dont know how much more fight I have left in all of this. is the most

amazing person Ive ever met, and shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is

on us through all of this may be too much.If any of you have any magic words

that can cure stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness, weariness, and,

fear just to

name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope your all well

and just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

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Ron, I am so sorry for all of you. I just had a thought. Does she

have her little keepsakes around her? Pictures, blankets, pillow,

figurines, whatever she is used to? It may help a lot? Something

soft to cling to? Place things in her room the same as they were in

her room at home. It is amazing at the things that bring us comfort.

My wish is for all of you to find comfort.

Love a big, big lot,

Imogene

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Yesterday was the worst day yet with mom, she got irate with me

and , and cried and stayed in bed all day.She refuse to eat or

take her meds but we finally got them down her.This has all been an

enormous strain on me and and Drake.I feel like Im on the

verge of a meltdown.I called moms lbd dr and Im waiting on the call

back from him.She just isnt happy in her new surroundings.I almost

toulk her home the other day and I saw what it will do to all of us

if that happens.Drake was crushed, and That hurts me deeply.I wish I

knew what to do.I am getting the wheels turning for a possible future

nursing home for mom.I just dont know how much more fight I have left

in all of this. is the most amazing person Ive ever met, and

shes wonderful with mom but the strain that is on us through all of

this may be too much.If any of you have any magic words that can cure

stress, depression, anxiety, sadness, hoplessness, weariness, and,

fear just to

> name a few, please please pass them along to me.Otherwise I hope

your all well and just please keep us in your prayers. Ron

>

>

>

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I met with Hospice on Friday of last week, and I'm not too happy with them.

They've determined that my Mom isn't dying fast enough, so they " doubt

seriously " that they will recertify her as needing Hospice care after April

30th. They said " this could go on for months, maybe years. " I tried to make

them understand the differences between LBD and Alzheimer's. Mom can usually do

showtime when they come in. On Friday, she called for her glasses and her Bible

(first time in MONTHS), put her teeth in (ditto), and no matter how I tried to

tell them that this was totally atypical for her, if she can speak more than 6

words they will not recertify her.

You know...my Mom goes days without talking, without eating, lying in bed with

her head under the covers, can't walk, has to be lifted out of her bed and onto

the commode, and her conversations ALL deal with God. She can't hold a

conversation with anyone.

Oklahoma has its own version of the PACE program, and we're working to get her

certified for assistant through them, but hospice says, " well, it can take a

while to do that. " I asked how long, and they wouldn't answer me, but said, " it

varies. "

My dad, who is doing her primary care, is 84 years old, diabetic, arthritic,

and is wearing me out. I have to listen to HOURS of complaints from him about

Mom, all the while doing the same things he's done. Yet, he is still in control

of her medical and living decisions, and will not even consider a nursing home.

I tried to talk to him about cashing out some of his IRA's and the like, and

using that to get some help in, and he flatly refuses, saying " we can take care

of her. "

I'm teaching all day during the week, teaching two nights for 4-5 hours a

night, teaching Saturday mornings for 5-6 hours, doing their shopping for them,

cooking meals and taking to them, and still trying to maintain my own place, and

on the nights I'm not teaching I'm over there helping with Mom for 4-5 hours a

night. And Dad's complaining because he can't get out of the house!

There are so many times I just want to get into my car and drive away and

never look back. I'm beginning to feel like a hostage in this situation.

Jannis

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with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; they shall walk and not

faint. " -- Isaiah 40:31

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Jannis, is there another Hospice in your town/city?

If so, you might call them. They all are different

from what I've heard.

I do not know how you can keep up that pace without

killing yourself with stress. I hate to sound cruel,

but perhaps if you weren't able to help your father so

much, he might be more likely to consider caregiving

help or even a nursing home. What you are doing is

superhuman, and it will get you down eventually.

Otherwise, is there some way you could take pictures

of her when she is really bad so that you could show

them to Hospice? Or, could you call them to come when

she is having a bad day? Does she know the days they

are coming so she is " up " for them, or is she that

aware?

Anyway, just my take on your health.

JuneC

--- Jannis Hallford

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> I met with Hospice on Friday of last week, and I'm

> not too happy with them.

>

> They've determined that my Mom isn't dying fast

> enough, so they " doubt seriously " that they will

> recertify her as needing Hospice care after April

> 30th. They said " this could go on for months, maybe

> years. " I tried to make them understand the

> differences between LBD and Alzheimer's. Mom can

> usually do showtime when they come in. On Friday,

> she called for her glasses and her Bible (first time

> in MONTHS), put her teeth in (ditto), and no matter

> how I tried to tell them that this was totally

> atypical for her, if she can speak more than 6 words

> they will not recertify her.

>

> You know...my Mom goes days without talking,

> without eating, lying in bed with her head under the

> covers, can't walk, has to be lifted out of her bed

> and onto the commode, and her conversations ALL deal

> with God. She can't hold a conversation with

> anyone.

>

> Oklahoma has its own version of the PACE program,

> and we're working to get her certified for assistant

> through them, but hospice says, " well, it can take a

> while to do that. " I asked how long, and they

> wouldn't answer me, but said, " it varies. "

>

> My dad, who is doing her primary care, is 84 years

> old, diabetic, arthritic, and is wearing me out. I

> have to listen to HOURS of complaints from him about

> Mom, all the while doing the same things he's done.

> Yet, he is still in control of her medical and

> living decisions, and will not even consider a

> nursing home. I tried to talk to him about cashing

> out some of his IRA's and the like, and using that

> to get some help in, and he flatly refuses, saying

> " we can take care of her. "

>

> I'm teaching all day during the week, teaching two

> nights for 4-5 hours a night, teaching Saturday

> mornings for 5-6 hours, doing their shopping for

> them, cooking meals and taking to them, and still

> trying to maintain my own place, and on the nights

> I'm not teaching I'm over there helping with Mom for

> 4-5 hours a night. And Dad's complaining because he

> can't get out of the house!

>

> There are so many times I just want to get into my

> car and drive away and never look back. I'm

> beginning to feel like a hostage in this situation.

>

> Jannis

>

>

> " They that wait upon the LORD shall renew their

> strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles;

> they shall run, and not be weary; they shall walk

> and not faint. " -- Isaiah 40:31

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Jannis,

Please try a different hospice agency. I'm sure they will take her since

her condition is " steadily declining " . That's all they need from a doctor.

Can you get someone to come in and help a couple of hours a few days a

week?

Jannis Hallford

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I met with Hospice on Friday of last week, and I'm not too happy with them.

They've determined that my Mom isn't dying fast enough, so they " doubt

seriously " that they will recertify her as needing Hospice care after April

30th. They said " this could go on for months, maybe years. " I tried to

make them understand the differences between LBD and Alzheimer's. Mom can

usually do showtime when they come in. On Friday, she called for her

glasses and her Bible (first time in MONTHS), put her teeth in (ditto), and

no matter how I tried to tell them that this was totally atypical for her,

if she can speak more than 6 words they will not recertify her.

You know...my Mom goes days without talking, without eating, lying in bed

with her head under the covers, can't walk, has to be lifted out of her bed

and onto the commode, and her conversations ALL deal with God. She can't

hold a conversation with anyone.

Oklahoma has its own version of the PACE program, and we're working to get

her certified for assistant through them, but hospice says, " well, it can

take a while to do that. " I asked how long, and they wouldn't answer me,

but said, " it varies. "

My dad, who is doing her primary care, is 84 years old, diabetic,

arthritic, and is wearing me out. I have to listen to HOURS of complaints

from him about Mom, all the while doing the same things he's done. Yet, he

is still in control of her medical and living decisions, and will not even

consider a nursing home. I tried to talk to him about cashing out some of

his IRA's and the like, and using that to get some help in, and he flatly

refuses, saying " we can take care of her. "

I'm teaching all day during the week, teaching two nights for 4-5 hours a

night, teaching Saturday mornings for 5-6 hours, doing their shopping for

them, cooking meals and taking to them, and still trying to maintain my own

place, and on the nights I'm not teaching I'm over there helping with Mom

for 4-5 hours a night. And Dad's complaining because he can't get out of

the house!

There are so many times I just want to get into my car and drive away and

never look back. I'm beginning to feel like a hostage in this situation.

Jannis

" They that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount

up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; they shall walk

and not faint. " -- Isaiah 40:31

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