Re: DIABETES 2

[Guest guest]

I'd like any and all stories about possible fixes, I am borderline and can

control somewhat by diet, but I'm really afraid one of these days things might

get worse.

TIA

Emmi

[Guest guest]

Emmi, if you are eating the right way (starch free especially) you WILL

be fine.

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Re: diabetes 2

* I'd like any and all stories about possible fixes, I am

borderline and can control somewhat by diet, but I'm really afraid one

of these days things might get worse.

TIA

Emmi

[Guest guest]

From what I understand, diabetes cannot (at this time) be " cured " .

Diabetes is the inability of the body to produce enough insulin, resulting

in abnormal metabolism of food.

You can control the symptoms and manipulate the metabolism with diet and

exercise, but if you stop the manipulation the symptoms return, so you are

(more or less) controlling the disease, not curing it.

My father in law was type 2 and 15 years ago was counting out peanuts,

telling us that his dietician told him that it was the carbs that mattered.

He did so well at his diet that he had to stop his injections, and then the

pills and controlled it totally with diet.

My dad is also type 2 and much more severe. A couple of years ago his blood

sugar was so out of control that his doctor told him he should get his

affairs in order; that was about all he could do. I talked him into Atkins

(not much to lose, right?) Within 2 weeks his blood sugar was spiking to

around 150 (instead of 400) and his insulin use dropped by half. He still

uses insulin, but maintains a much lower level.

Diet is a very powerful tool to control the disease.

;-) Ellen

[Guest guest]

>>From what I understand, diabetes cannot (at this time) be " cured " .

Please don't tell that to all the cats of my clients who no longer have

it :-))) They eat normal food now and no longer need insulin and no

longer show lesions in the pancreas. (Diabetic cats tend to get amyloid

deposits in the pancreas that damage it and result in need for insulin

even in type 2 diabetes.)

" Can't be cured " actually means - " Can't be cured by the conventional

medical profession, so use another one " .

In most cases - what the body can undo - it can also rebuild. That is -

as long as you don't use the conventional health care system, as drugs

are not the way to build anything.

Namaste,

Irene

--

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P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

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[Guest guest]

Conventional medicine doesn't know how to cure diabetes and a lot of other

things. That doesn't mean they cannot be cured.

Re: diabetes 2

From what I understand, diabetes cannot (at this time) be " cured " .

Diabetes is the inability of the body to produce enough insulin, resulting

in abnormal metabolism of food.

You can control the symptoms and manipulate the metabolism with diet and

exercise, but if you stop the manipulation the symptoms return, so you are

(more or less) controlling the disease, not curing it.

My father in law was type 2 and 15 years ago was counting out peanuts,

telling us that his dietician told him that it was the carbs that mattered.

He did so well at his diet that he had to stop his injections, and then the

pills and controlled it totally with diet.

My dad is also type 2 and much more severe. A couple of years ago his blood

sugar was so out of control that his doctor told him he should get his

affairs in order; that was about all he could do. I talked him into Atkins

(not much to lose, right?) Within 2 weeks his blood sugar was spiking to

around 150 (instead of 400) and his insulin use dropped by half. He still

uses insulin, but maintains a much lower level.

Diet is a very powerful tool to control the disease.

;-) Ellen

[Guest guest]

Do you know anybody that has been cured? I don't, and I'd love to be able

to tell my dad if I could find somebody.

When I said, " at this time " , I meant it. There are great hopes, but *now*?

Not that I know of.

Please, if you know of a cure, share.

Re: diabetes 2

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>

> From what I understand, diabetes cannot (at this time) be " cured " .

>

> Diabetes is the inability of the body to produce enough insulin,

> resulting

> in abnormal metabolism of food.

>

> You can control the symptoms and manipulate the metabolism with diet and

> exercise, but if you stop the manipulation the symptoms return, so you

> are

> (more or less) controlling the disease, not curing it.

>

> My father in law was type 2 and 15 years ago was counting out peanuts,

> telling us that his dietician told him that it was the carbs that

> mattered.

> He did so well at his diet that he had to stop his injections, and then

> the

> pills and controlled it totally with diet.

>

> My dad is also type 2 and much more severe. A couple of years ago his

> blood

> sugar was so out of control that his doctor told him he should get his

> affairs in order; that was about all he could do. I talked him into

> Atkins

> (not much to lose, right?) Within 2 weeks his blood sugar was spiking

> to

> around 150 (instead of 400) and his insulin use dropped by half. He

> still

> uses insulin, but maintains a much lower level.

>

> Diet is a very powerful tool to control the disease.

>

> ;-) Ellen

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Do you know anybody that has been cured? I don't, and I'd love to be able

> to tell my dad if I could find somebody.

>

> When I said, " at this time " , I meant it. There are great hopes, but *now*?

> Not that I know of.

>

> Please, if you know of a cure, share.

I am on my way to a cure.

I am not there yet.

My fasting blood glucose was 156 when I started - and was 91 today.

91 is great of course - but I remain unable to eat many carbs at all

without the glucose rising badly. Even about 12 g carbs will shoot the

reading up 40 points. (Better than the 200 or more it used to be.)

40 points for only 12g of carbs is too high, and I want to eat more

carbs sometimes.

So currently I still consider I have diabetes, but I surely have

improved significantly.

I don't expect to be cured for a while as I have other issues too as I

wrote about.

I can say the cats of my clients who used to have diabetes, no longer

do. The approach with homeopathy is the same in people or any other

species. Homeopaths have been helping diabetic clients for 200 years.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

>>Do you know anybody that has been cured? I don't, and I'd love to be able

to tell my dad if I could find somebody.

**Depends what you mean by 'cured' - if you mean they have been able to eat

whatever they want for the rest of their life then I doubt there are many, if

any - but that is because a lot of the foods they will want to indulge in may

well be the cause of it in the first place and they poisoned themselves by

eating rubbish.

**My father's type 2 is totally controlled by his following the south beach diet

and eliminating those things along the way which he finds an individual problem.

)

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[Guest guest]

That is the difference between " controlled " and " cured " . Most people can

have a piece of birthday cake on their 70th birthday and not have a

dangerous spike in their blood sugar (yes, there will a spike, just not a

dangerous one). My kids can drink fruit juice and I can't.

Cured means the situation is gone. Poof, don't need to worry about it.

Controlled means that if you " fall off the wagon " the situation is still

there to set you up for the same old symptoms.

Control is what we hope for where our loved ones are concerned. Cure is

what we are looking for in the (hopefully) near future.

;-)

Re: diabetes 2

>>>Do you know anybody that has been cured? I don't, and I'd love to be

>>>able

> to tell my dad if I could find somebody.

> **Depends what you mean by 'cured' - if you mean they have been able to

> eat whatever they want for the rest of their life then I doubt there are

> many, if any - but that is because a lot of the foods they will want to

> indulge in may well be the cause of it in the first place and they

> poisoned themselves by eating rubbish.

> **My father's type 2 is totally controlled by his following the south

> beach diet and eliminating those things along the way which he finds an

> individual problem.

>

> )

> Be a Transformer, Not a Conformer,

> Observe the Masses, And then do the Opposite !

>

> http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>Cured means the situation is gone. Poof, don't need to worry about it.

Controlled means that if you " fall off the wagon " the situation is still there

to set you up for the same old symptoms.

**In that case I don't believe you can ever cure diabetes type 2 as we are not

superbeings who can eat whatever garbage companies decide to bring out and have

no problems! The sugar spikes and insulin surges are natural reactions, the body

becoming resistant to its own insulin is a consequence of natural reactions.If

you choose to have a diet which wears out your body, and you choose to eat stuff

which is bad for you then to expect a cure is daft.

You have to accept that some things aren't s'posed to be eaten and are not good

for you. If you choose to eat them just because they take the form of something

made palatable or pleasing to the eye that doesn't mean that your body should be

able to cope with it.

*If* your diabetes is type 2 and controllable by diet then that is your cure.

Stick to what you know is good for your body and you won't get the problems.

It's like moaning because you hold your hand in the fire and it gets burned, the

cure is not holding your hand in the fire. But just because you want to do it

doesn't mean your skin should be flame retardent.

**Obviously this only deals with diet controllable type 2 and insulin resistance

- type 1 I don't know anything about.

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[Guest guest]

I think that there is a differenced between " falling off the wagon " and

" living off the wagon " . Living off the wagon means daily peanut butter

cups, lattes with extra cream and sugar, and loaded baked potatoes.

Falling off the wagon means having a piece of cake on my son's 18th birthday

as a " once in a while " indulgence.

;-) Ellen

Re: diabetes 2

>>>Cured means the situation is gone. Poof, don't need to worry about it.

> Controlled means that if you " fall off the wagon " the situation is still

> there to set you up for the same old symptoms.

> **In that case I don't believe you can ever cure diabetes type 2 as we are

> not superbeings who can eat whatever garbage companies decide to bring out

> and have no problems! The sugar spikes and insulin surges are natural

> reactions, the body becoming resistant to its own insulin is a consequence

> of natural reactions.If you choose to have a diet which wears out your

> body, and you choose to eat stuff which is bad for you then to expect a

> cure is daft.

> You have to accept that some things aren't s'posed to be eaten and are not

> good for you. If you choose to eat them just because they take the form of

> something made palatable or pleasing to the eye that doesn't mean that

> your body should be able to cope with it.

> *If* your diabetes is type 2 and controllable by diet then that is your

> cure. Stick to what you know is good for your body and you won't get the

> problems.

> It's like moaning because you hold your hand in the fire and it gets

> burned, the cure is not holding your hand in the fire. But just because

> you want to do it doesn't mean your skin should be flame retardent.

> **Obviously this only deals with diet controllable type 2 and insulin

> resistance - type 1 I don't know anything about.

>

> )

> Be a Transformer, Not a Conformer,

> Observe the Masses, And then do the Opposite !

>

> http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well, I'll be falling off the waggon next month for my B'day (72 already?) with

all the aunties & friends showing up and me baking 3 kinds of tarts and cakes.

It's tradition. hehehe.

Oh well, cinnamon to the rescue...

Emmi

[Guest guest]

Re: diabetes 2

> well, I'll be falling off the waggon next month for my B'day (72 already?)

yeh...already...my dad just turned 70, after being told that he wouldn't see

67.

;-) (congrats)

[Guest guest]

I thought Cinnamon was an avoid ?

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[Guest guest]

Cinnamon is an avoid for non secretors.

Re: diabetes 2

I thought Cinnamon was an avoid ?

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[Guest guest]

Ha, we'll show 'em, eh?

[Guest guest]

It is, but I use it anyway for medicinal purposes on occasion. Makes me itch

tho.

Emmi

[Guest guest]

Being as I know very little about homeopics (please excuse the spelling) I've

only heard of surgery by replacing the panceas, for a complete cure. However, I

have heard of people improving enough that they were able to completely control

their diabetes with diet and exercise. There was a lady either in or close to

New Orleans that was able through use of this diet to completely drop her meds.

I've forgotten which of the lists she was on. She took time to e-mail us the day

after she went off them, that the doctor had told her to.

Re: diabetes 2

>

>

> From what I understand, diabetes cannot (at this time) be " cured " .

>

> Diabetes is the inability of the body to produce enough insulin,

> resulting

> in abnormal metabolism of food.

>

> You can control the symptoms and manipulate the metabolism with diet and

> exercise, but if you stop the manipulation the symptoms return, so you

> are

> (more or less) controlling the disease, not curing it.

>

> My father in law was type 2 and 15 years ago was counting out peanuts,

> telling us that his dietician told him that it was the carbs that

> mattered.

> He did so well at his diet that he had to stop his injections, and then

> the

> pills and controlled it totally with diet.

>

> My dad is also type 2 and much more severe. A couple of years ago his

> blood

> sugar was so out of control that his doctor told him he should get his

> affairs in order; that was about all he could do. I talked him into

> Atkins

> (not much to lose, right?) Within 2 weeks his blood sugar was spiking

> to

> around 150 (instead of 400) and his insulin use dropped by half. He

> still

> uses insulin, but maintains a much lower level.

>

> Diet is a very powerful tool to control the disease.

>

> ;-) Ellen

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've also read it is good for diabetics. I haven't seen the book. Those who have

it may be able to tell if Cinnamon is suggested for Diabetic O's.

Re: diabetes 2

I thought Cinnamon was an avoid ?

)

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[Guest guest]

) wrote:

**In that case I don't believe you can ever cure diabetes type 2 as we

are not superbeings who can eat whatever garbage companies decide to

bring out and have no problems! The sugar spikes and insulin surges are

natural reactions,

it is a matter of degree. A normal person does not spike glucose

the way a diabetic does. The act of eating carbs in a normal person

triggers release of *stored* insulin from the pancreas to *immediately*

manage the glucose level so it will not spike. Carbs start to absorb

through the mouth lining, getting a head-start on alerting the pancreas

to release *stored* insulin. Assuming there is any stored insulin.

Type 2 diabetics can not store insulin, the pancreas is damaged. So

there is no phase one response and THAT causes the glucose to spike

abnormally. When the pancreas detects that glucose, it *starts* to make

insulin for it, which will be able to start work in an hour or so by

which time the meal has really shot the glucose through the roof.

In Type 1 diabetes - the pancreas can neither store glucose nor

manufacture it. So after eating the person must inject insulin.

So it would be reasonable to say that a cure for diabetes restores the

person's ability to both make insulin in the pancreas - and store

insulin in the pancreas for " first response " (stored) insulin.

So in my opinion a cure is a restored pancreas function and is not to do

with what's in food. " Normal " food should be handled just fine in a

cured diabetic.

The cats of my clients who used to have diabetes and take insulin etc,

are eating normal good quality high protein cat food.

The brand I suggest has 38% protein from good meat - and has various

carbohydrates and fat for the rest. It's a normal diet. And they need no

insulin.

<<< the body becoming resistant to its own insulin is a consequence of

natural reactions.If you choose to have a diet which wears out your

body, and you choose to eat stuff which is bad for you then to expect a

cure is daft.>>

It's not daft.

We all make mistakes. It is a mistake to eat wrong food - but believe me

after you are shocked by getting diabetes you get one hell of a wake up

call - and any diabetic I know would love to get a second chance to not

make the mistake.

<<*If* your diabetes is type 2 and controllable by diet then that is

your cure.>>

No that is not a cure, it is *disease* management. A cure needs a

*healthy* pancreas which does what it was designed to do, not a diseased

one that has to be " managed " .

Allopathy " manages " diabetes - and makes it worse and encourages the

damage from glucose by suggesting an inappropriate glucose acceptance

level, inappropriate carbs in the diet, too high fasting glucose, too

high HbA1c levels and by using drugs that preclude healing of the

pancreas. They just try to hide the problem, and not very effectively,

they do not fix it.

<< Stick to what you know is good for your body and you won't get the

problems.>>

I did stick to the best high protein nutrition I knew - and I did get

diabetes. But in many cases that's valid yes - for prevention.

The sooner blood glucose abnormality is detected and managed the better.

The official levels that are called diabetes are FAR too high - a much

lower abnormal glucose should be red flagged and *called* diabetes and

addressed - BEFORE permanent damage is caused. I was called " borderline "

when I already had glaucoma and significant peripheral nerve damage!!!

That's not okay - people need to be alerted *before* that damage sends

them to the doctor.

Diabetes can creep up on you. I did not eat any junk food and I have it.

It's not automatic that someone with diabetes was eating irresponsibly.

:-)) I know a good deal about nutrition and always ate " healthily " with

no junk food even if it was not BTD compliant.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

True, no junkfood here, or sodas either, was diagnosed after 3 years of BTD. Go

figure. Maybe it's just age with me.

Emmi

Re: diabetes 2

Diabetes can creep up on you. I did not eat any junk food and I have it.

It's not automatic that someone with diabetes was eating irresponsibly.

:-)) I know a good deal about nutrition and always ate " healthily " with

no junk food even if it was not BTD compliant.

[Guest guest]

Thankyou for your very interesting and enlightening reply Irene, I think maybe

my email came across a bit stronger and harsher than I intended so thankyou for

being so kind with your reply.

I apologise if anyone was put out by my post.

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[Guest guest]

) wrote:

> Thankyou for your very interesting and enlightening reply Irene,

> I think maybe my email came across a bit stronger and harsher than I intended

Welcome and...

No, your post was fine - on topic and relevant in detail :-)))

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

Here is something I happend onto:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/01/31/researchers_\

find_diabetes_trigger_possible_fix?mode=PF

Now what else is Aspirin good for ?

Emmi

[Guest guest]

I can't seem to get through this document. Is there any way you could make it a

bit easier by

pointing out where it is referring to sick buildings or mold? -

I was diagnosed with diabetes while living in my house, however, it has

corrected itself now

that I am no longer there. Any information on this would be greatly

appreciated.

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> MATABOLIC AND INFLAMATION VERITABLE CLUSTERS IN PREDICTION OF DIABETES

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> http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/53/7/1773

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