Re: Has anyone tried concrobium mold control?

[Guest guest]

Does it have any effect on the toxicity or allegenicity of the mold

that is already there?

[Guest guest]

Do you have a list of ingredients?

Some chemicals are helpful for cleaning surfaces so that they don't

make people sick, others, not so much.

" Killing mold " is not very difficult, as it just means stopping the

mold that is there from growing for the moment.

The real work to make a building safe in the present and the future is

the cleanup of the mold..

AND the elimination of the conditions that allowed the mold to grow,

i.e. moisture.

Usually that will involve a multi-pronged approach.. both cleaning,

often with soap and bleach and scrubbing and then rinsing the bleach

off, with clean water and drying..

For example, this paper is on the cleaning up afterward part:

J Occup Environ Hyg. 2004 Jul;1(7):442-7.

An investigation into techniques for cleaning mold-contaminated

home contents.

SC, Brasel TL, Carriker CG, Fortenberry GD, Fogle MR,

JM, Wu C, Andriychuk LA, Karunasena E, Straus DC.

Center for Indoor Air Research, Department of Microbiology and

Immunology, Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center, Lubbock,

Texas 79430, USA. .@...

This study examined the efficacy of the following treatments to

reduce selected fungal spore and mycotoxin levels on materials

commonly found in home contents: (1) gamma irradiation at a 10-13

kiloGray exposure, (2) a detergent/bleach wash, and (3) a steam

cleaning technique. A minimum of six replicates were performed per

treatment. Paper, cloth, wood, and carpet were inoculated with either

fungal spores (Stachybotrys chartarum, Aspergillus niger, Penicillium

chrysogenum, or Chaetomium globosum) at 240,000 spores/2.54 cm2 of

material or with the mycotoxins roridin A, T-2, and verrucarin A at 10

microg per 2.54 cm2 of material. Treatments were evaluated with an

agar plating technique for fungal spores and a yeast toxicity culture

assay for mycotoxins. Results showed that gamma irradiation

inactivated fungal spores, but the treatment was not successful in

inactivating mycotoxins. The washing technique completely inactivated

or removed spores on all materials except for C. globosum, which was

reduced on all items except paper (p < 0.05). Washing inactivated all

mycotoxins on paper and cloth but not on carpet or untreated wood (p <

0.001). The steam cleaning treatment did not completely eliminate any

fungal spores; however, it reduced P. chrysogenum numbers on all

materials, C. globosum was reduced on wood and carpet, and S.

chartarum was reduced on wood (p < 0.05). Steam cleaning was

unsuccessful in inactivating any of the tested mycotoxins. These

results show that the bleach/detergent washing technique was more

effective overall in reducing spore and mycotoxin levels than gamma

irradiation or steam cleaning. However, the other examined techniques

were successful in varying degrees. Copyright 2004 JOEH, LLC

PMID: 15238314 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[Guest guest]

bonnie,

It's no better and no worse than all the others. The main

difference is with marketing claims and well it is presented.

Killing the mold is insignificant for almost all health effects.

Stopping growth? Keeping it dry by stopping the water source will

prevent growth. If the mold is removed - which is part of the

instructions for use - it can't come back anyway unless the area

gets damp again. In which case every warranty I've seen says it

is invalidated because they only guarantee the original event, not

subsequent ones. Does it have an EPA registration number? Is it

applied only according to the instructions on the label?

BTW, for others on this group who have heard the EPA

registration litany before, simply providing an EPA registration

number may no longer be reliable.

In April, EPA Region 5 issued a " stop sale, use or removal " order

against 's Miracle Grow Company and three affiliates for use

of invalid registration numbers 62355-4, 538-301, 538-299 and

538-304. An additional stop order was issued July 3. Further

information - quite interesting - is at:

http://www.epa.gov/reg5rcra/ptb/news/

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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[Guest guest]

The site for the product is http://concrobium.com/

It's main ingredient seems to be sodium carbonate, also known as soda

ash or washing soda see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_ash

I was just wondering if anyone has tried it and what they thought of

it.

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