Re: Any experience with penicillium crustosum?

[Guest guest]

you can probably put it in a search and read much about it. the

important thing is that it sounds like you are haveing symptoms of

mold exposure and toxin exposure, leaveing and felling better is a

good sign that you need to stay out until the issue is resolved.

those symptoms shouldn't be tooken lightly further exposure can lead

to illnesses that you really dont want to have. please take action to

remove yourselfs from this environment until the issue is dealt with.

everything infested needs to be removed and replaced, and all

surrounding areas cleaned and you shouldn't be there while it's being

done because it well be stirred up. it may of been from a previos

leak and dry now but that doesn't mean it's not a problem anymore,

dry means more airborne which means more inhalation. the whole house

needs to be cleaned, if it's mostly confined to a laundy room close

off that area from the rest of the house if possable, but you really

should have someone else do it, not yourself. protective gear should

be used. someone that knows what they are doing should know that.

they also should vent the air outside if possable.beware there are

many so called experts that aren't. one sign might be one that claims

mold does no harm and doesn't bother protecting himself.

--- In , " Moneca " <monecacolorado@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi!

> Just joined hoping to get some advice. My four year old has been

> having excessive phlegm in her throat to the point she gags and

> vomits throughout the day (symptoms are worst in the morning and if

> the house is closed up at night). Dizziness started with her about

> the same time (middle of June). I started with mild headaches and a

> strange neurological buzzing for lack of a better description about

2

> weeks after her symptoms started. Our symptoms are gone within 30

> minutes of leaving the house and don't return until we're home

again.

> I finally correlated our symptoms with mold toxicity and one

> practitioner I use found we were both " weak " to penicillium

> crustosum. I just had a mold inspector and his dog (trained to

detect

> mold in the same way DEA dogs and ATF dogs are trained)at the house

a

> couple days ago. The dog went crazy for the flooring right under

the

> washer and the landlord admitted that there had been some overflow

> with previous tennants there over 4 years ago. We've been in the

> house for over a year and there hasn't been any leaking at all. The

> mold inspector took air samples that should be complete by Monday

> evening.

> Does anyone have experience with this variety of penicillium? I've

> read a bit about it, but would love to hear some personal

experience.

>

> Thanks,

> Moneca

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=penicillium%20crustosum & sourceid=m\

ozilla-search & db=pubmed & orig_db=PubMed & dispmax=20 & dopt=DocSum

[Guest guest]

This looks like the most relevant.

This is the guy who was one of the main persons at EPA behind ERMI

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J Occup Environ Med. 2006 Aug;48(8):852-8.

Specific molds associated with asthma in water-damaged homes.

Vesper SJ, McKinstry C, Yang C, Haugland RA, Kercsmar CM, Yike I,

Schluchter MD, Kirchner HL, Sobolewski J, Allan TM, Dearborn DG.

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Cincinnati, Ohio 45268, USA.

vesper.stephen@...

OBJECTIVE: We sought to determine if specific molds were found in

significantly higher concentrations in the water-damaged homes of

asthmatic children compared with homes with no visible water damage.

METHODS: The mold concentrations in the dust in asthmatic children's

bedrooms in water-damaged homes (N = 60) and control homes (N = 22)

were measured by mold-specific quantitative polymerase chain reaction.

RESULTS: Two molds, Scopulariopsis brevicaulis and Trichoderma viride,

had significantly (P < 0.05) higher concentrations in asthmatics'

homes compared with control homes and three other molds (Penicillium

crustosum group, Stachybotrys chartarum, and Wallemia sebi) had P

values <0.1. CONCLUSIONS: A relative moldiness index was developed to

predict the likely development of asthma in water-damaged homes in

Cleveland.

PMID: 16902378 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information. My landlord is going to have the mold

remediated. We have no choice but to stay in the house until then and

be out as much as possible in the day. This is due to finances.

Moneca

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> This looks like the most relevant.

>

> This is the guy who was one of the main persons at EPA behind ERMI

>

> _____cut here______

>

>

> J Occup Environ Med. 2006 Aug;48(8):852-8.

>

> Specific molds associated with asthma in water-damaged homes.

> Vesper SJ, McKinstry C, Yang C, Haugland RA, Kercsmar CM, Yike

I,

> Schluchter MD, Kirchner HL, Sobolewski J, Allan TM, Dearborn DG.

>

> U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Cincinnati, Ohio 45268,

USA.

> vesper.stephen@...

>

> OBJECTIVE: We sought to determine if specific molds were found

in

> significantly higher concentrations in the water-damaged homes of

> asthmatic children compared with homes with no visible water damage.

> METHODS: The mold concentrations in the dust in asthmatic children's

> bedrooms in water-damaged homes (N = 60) and control homes (N = 22)

> were measured by mold-specific quantitative polymerase chain

reaction.

> RESULTS: Two molds, Scopulariopsis brevicaulis and Trichoderma

viride,

> had significantly (P < 0.05) higher concentrations in asthmatics'

> homes compared with control homes and three other molds (Penicillium

> crustosum group, Stachybotrys chartarum, and Wallemia sebi) had P

> values <0.1. CONCLUSIONS: A relative moldiness index was developed

to

> predict the likely development of asthma in water-damaged homes in

> Cleveland.

>

> PMID: 16902378 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

[Guest guest]

Remediation,if done in an uncontained way (without care to contain the

mold, i.e. plastic barriers, negative pressure,

can stir up huge amounts of mold.

so - be careful to cover/wrap up/store as much of your stuff as possible.

In a way its good that you don't have to put it all in storage.

How long is it projected to take?

YOU (so you 'own' and have access to -the real results)

should *quietly* have testing done both before and after to ensure

that the job was done correctly.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Moneca <monecacolorado@...> wrote:

> Thank you for the information. My landlord is going to have the mold

> remediated. We have no choice but to stay in the house until then and

> be out as much as possible in the day. This is due to finances.

>

> Moneca

>

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