Re: Repairing brain damage

[Guest guest]

The difference is if its delirium or dementia.   dementia is at a constant

state.  delirium is on its way to dementia.  you can reverse delirium but not

dementia  Yes, it is better when caught in the first year.

Things to do to help get your brain back,

deep breathing exercises, (it gets your lungs heart, and brain working together)

Very important!

Listen to music and if you can dance. but do a lot of clapping and foot tapping

Get a thousand piece puzzle (works frontal lobe) helps memory and multi tasking

go on line and find brain gym exercises.

remember Rome wasn't built in a day. I have been doing therapy for my brain

almost 6 months slow process

From: dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...>

Subject: [] Repairing brain damage

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:52 PM

I watched the video of Dr. Johanning and it seemed by the video that

he

did not think the brain damage from mold was repairable when talking

with the man and his son. Dr. Rea here thinks that the brain damage

will repair itself if caught early, how does Dr. Shoemaker feel about

whether or not you can repair the brain? Thanks- D

[Guest guest]

Dr. Shoemaker says that not everyone will recover.

my own thoughts is that it's based on levels of damage bith to organs

and systems involved. I lived through several levels of exposure and

the damage caused at high levels is totally different than at lower

levels where your body is still manageing to deal with it. I think that

at certain high levels it's no longer a factor of what you may be

predisposed to have or get, it's a matter damage that causes other

damage,a chain reaction as organs and systems overloaded and shut down

because of failure to tolerate the load of toxins. toxic blood and csf

comeing out of the body or trying to can cause alot of damage that

doesn't go away.

--- In , " dianebolton52 " <dianebolton@...>

wrote:

>

> I watched the video of Dr. Johanning and it seemed by the video that

he

> did not think the brain damage from mold was repairable when talking

> with the man and his son. Dr. Rea here thinks that the brain damage

> will repair itself if caught early, how does Dr. Shoemaker feel about

> whether or not you can repair the brain? Thanks- D

>

[Guest guest]

I think the ability to repair damage varies from one part to another

of the brain.

The majority of the brain, by itself, no, from what I have read it

doesn't repair itself without help.

What kind of help? Still -experimental therapies with neural

progenitor cells, i.e. stem cells, which are basically similar to

fetal cells that travel to parts of the brain where they are needed

and grow,

Everyone you talk to agrees that stem cells represent a very promising

avenue for therapy of neurodegenerative disease.

The parts of the brain that do repair themselves, this repair is

basically neurogenesis..

Here are some references on neurogenesis and why its important..

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Nat Neurosci. 2008 Aug 31. [Epub ahead of print]

Roles of continuous neurogenesis in the structural and functional

integrity of the adult forebrain.

Imayoshi I, Sakamoto M, Ohtsuka T, Takao K, Miyakawa T, Yamaguchi

M, Mori K, Ikeda T, Itohara S, Kageyama R.

[1] Institute for Virus Research, Kyoto University,

Shogoin-Kawahara, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8507, Japan. [2] Kyoto

University Graduate School of Biostudies, Yoshida-Konoe, Sakyo-ku,

Kyoto 606-8501, Japan. [3] Japan Science and Technology Agency, CREST,

Shogoin-Kawahara, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8507, Japan.

Neurogenesis occurs continuously in the forebrain of adult

mammals, but the functional importance of adult neurogenesis is still

unclear. Here, using a genetic labeling method in adult mice, we found

that continuous neurogenesis results in the replacement of the

majority of granule neurons in the olfactory bulb and a substantial

addition of granule neurons to the hippocampal dentate gyrus. Genetic

ablation of newly formed neurons in adult mice led to a gradual

decrease in the number of granule cells in the olfactory bulb,

inhibition of increases in the granule cell number in the dentate

gyrus and impairment of behaviors in contextual and spatial memory,

which are known to depend on hippocampus. These results suggest that

continuous neurogenesis is required for the maintenance and

reorganization of the whole interneuron system in the olfactory bulb,

the modulation and refinement of the existing neuronal circuits in the

dentate gyrus and the normal behaviors involved in

hippocampal-dependent memory.

PMID: 18758458 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

Fortschr Neurol Psychiatr. 2008 Sep;76(9):517-29.

Related Articles, Links

[Neurogenesis in the adult brain: from bench to bedside?]

[Article in German]

Brandt MD, Storch A.

Klinik und Poliklinik für Neurologie und Center for Regenerative

Therapies Dresden (CRTD), Technische Universität Dresden.

Two regions of the mammalian brain maintain the capability to

generate new neurons throughout lifetime: Neuronal stem- and precursor

cells proliferate in the subgranulare zone (SGZ) of the dentate gyrus

in the hippocampus and in the subventricular zone (SVZ) of the lateral

ventricles to give rise to new neurons that are functionally

integrated into the neural network. The functional relevance of adult

neurogenesis under physiological conditions on one hand, and the newly

discovered potentiality of cellular regeneration in the diseased brain

on the other hand, arouse the interest of fundamental and clinical

neuroscientists. There is growing evidence that impaired adult

neurogenesis is linked to the etiology of neuropsychiatric disorders

(such as depression or Alzheimer's disease), as well as that the

neurogenic potential may be used for the treatment of

neurodegenerative diseases (such as Parkinson's disease or stroke).

This review summarizes the neurobiological bases of adult neurogenesis

in their relevance for the future trend of novel therapeutic

strategies.

Publication Types:

* English Abstract

PMID: 18712664 [PubMed - in process]

FASEB J. 2008 Aug 14. [Epub ahead of print]

Related Articles, Links

Click here to read

Homocysteine inhibits proliferation of neuronal precursors in the

mouse adult brain by impairing the basic fibroblast growth factor

signaling cascade and reducing extracellular regulated kinase

1/2-dependent cyclin E expression.

Rabaneda LG, Carrasco M, López-Toledano MA, Murillo-Carretero M,

Ruiz FA, Estrada C, Castro C.

*Area de Fisiologia, Facultad de Medicina, Universidad de Cádiz,

Cádiz, Spain; and Hospital Universitario Puerta del Mar, Cádiz, Spain.

Hyperhomocysteinemia (HHcy)-abnormally elevated plasma levels of

homocysteine (Hcy)-has been associated with the development of

neurodegenerative dementia and mild cognitive impairment. This

association suggests that HHcy might facilitate memory loss in the

elderly. As memory loss can occur through a deteriorated neurogenic

capacity, we have studied the effects of Hcy on neural progenitor

cells (NPCs) both in vitro and in vivo. We show that Hcy exerts an

antiproliferative effect on basic fibroblast growth factor (bFGF)

-stimulated NPCs isolated from the postnatal subventricular zone

(SVZ), accompanied by inactivation of the extracellular

signal-regulated kinase (Erk1/2) and inhibition of Erk1/2-dependent

expression of cyclin E. Using a mice model we show that, under normal

folate conditions, HHcy exerts an inhibitory effect on adult brain

neurogenesis. This inhibition occurs in the caudal areas of the

dentate gyrus (DG) of the hippocampus, a neurogenic area mainly

involved in learning and memory performance, and in the SVZ, recently

implicated in olfactory learning performance. In both areas reduced

number of proliferative neuroblasts were found. Since neuroblasts are

primarily bFGF-responsive progenitors already committed to a neuronal

phenotype, our results strongly suggest that excess Hcy inhibits

neurogenesis in the DG and SVZ by inhibiting the bFGF-dependent

activation of Erk1/2 in these cells.-Rabaneda, L. G., Carrasco, M.,

López-Toledano, M. A., Murillo-Carretero, M., Ruiz, F. A., Estrada,

C., Castro, C. Homocysteine inhibits proliferation of neuronal

precursors in the mouse adult brain by impairing the bFGF signaling

cascade and reducing Erk1/2-dependent cyclin E expression.

PMID: 18703672 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

Eur J Neurosci. 2008 Jul;28(2):323-30.

Related Articles, Links

Click here to read

5-Fluorouracil chemotherapy affects spatial working memory and

newborn neurons in the adult rat hippocampus.

Mustafa S, A, G, Wigmore PM.

School of Biomedical Sciences, Institute of Neuroscience,

University of Nottingham, Queen's Medical Centre, Nottingham NG7 2UH,

UK.

Chemotherapy-associated memory deficits in adults are prevalent

with systemic treatment utilizing 5-fluorouracil (5-Fu). 5-Fu disrupts

cell proliferation and readily crosses the blood-brain barrier.

Proliferating cells within the adult dentate gyrus of the hippocampus

give rise to new neurons involved in memory and learning and require

neurotrophic factors such as brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF)

to nurture this process of adult neurogenesis. Some of these

proliferating cells are anatomically and functionally supported by

vascular endothelial cells. We propose that systemically administered

5-Fu chemotherapy will cause deficits in hippocampal memory that are

associated with altered BDNF levels and proliferating cells

(particularly vascular-associated cells) in the dentate gyrus. This

was tested by determining the effect of 5-Fu on spatial working memory

as modelled by the object location recognition test. Numbers of

vascular-associated (VA) and non-vascular-associated (NVA)

proliferating cells in the dentate gyrus were measured using

double-labelling immunohistochemistry with markers of proliferation

(Ki67) and endothelial cells (RECA-1). 5-Fu-induced changes in

hippocampal BDNF and doublecortin (DCX) protein levels were quantified

using Western immunoblotting. 5-Fu chemotherapy caused a marginal

disruption in spatial working memory and did not alter the total

proliferating cell counts or the percentage of VA and NVA

proliferating cells in the dentate gyrus. In contrast, 5-Fu

significantly reduced BDNF and DCX levels in the hippocampus,

indicating alterations in neurotrophin levels and neurogenesis. These

findings highlight the usefulness of animal models of 'chemobrain' for

understanding the mechanisms that underlie chemotherapy-associated

declines in cognitive performance and memory.

PMID: 18702703 [PubMed - in process]

etc, etc...

Thats what I mean when I say that some mold neuro issues and " chemo

brain " ARE PROBABLY THE SAME THING...

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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:52 PM, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...> wrote:

> I watched the video of Dr. Johanning and it seemed by the video that he

> did not think the brain damage from mold was repairable when talking

> with the man and his son. Dr. Rea here thinks that the brain damage

> will repair itself if caught early, how does Dr. Shoemaker feel about

> whether or not you can repair the brain? Thanks- D

>

[Guest guest]

By the way, I've gotten back at least 50% of my sense of smell..

Some parts of the brain, like olfactory neurons, do repair themselves...

My short term memory?

Still really bad, don't have numbers to evaluate it but subjectively,

seems like improvement has been almost nil.

[Guest guest]

On a personal note once my doc feels that i can take a break

from anti fungal meds i plan on making and taking a brain formula. I worked at

GNC for around 10-13 years so i know exactly what people have been taking for

brain health over these years as far as nutritional supplements are concerned.

I would suggest them to anyone that is trying to provide the best environment

for brain rehabilitation/repair. All can be bought at GNC

1. Triple Lecithin; Lecithin is a type of lipid. The protective sheaths

surrounding

the brain are composed of lecithin. Nerve cells also contain this type of

lipid. Also good for liver repair

2. Fish Body Oils; Its an essential fatty acid. EFA's are found in high

concentrations in the brain and aid in the transmission of nerve impulses. Also

take this for its DHA content. The Ask Dr Sears website says fats make up 60

percent of the brain and DHA being a lipid (fat) is a brain food, DHA is the

primary structural component of brain tissue. He also added this,

Just how important is DHA for

brain development? Consider these research findings:

Infants who have low amounts of DHA in their diet have

reduced brain development and diminished visual acuity. The increased

intelligence and academic performance of

breastfed compared with formula- fed infants has been attributed in part

to the increased DHA content of human milk. Cultures whose diet is high in

omega 3 fatty acids

(such as the Eskimos who eat a lot of fish) have a lower incidence of

degenerative diseases of the central nervous system, such as multiple

sclerosis.

Experimental animals whose diets are low in DHA have

been found to have smaller brains and delayed central nervous system

development. Some children with poor school performance because of

ADD, have been shown to have insufficient essential fatty acids in their

diet. (See A.D.D. - A Nutritional Deficiency?)

 

3. Ginkgo Biloba; It has been reported in scientific

journals to enhance blood circulation and to increase the supply of oxygen to

the brain. It also has been shown to slow the progression of Alzheimers disease

in some individuals.

4. Kelp; In the book titled Prescritption for Nutritional

Healing says Kelp has been reported to be very beneficial to brain tissue, the

membranes surrounding the brain, the sensory nerves, and the spinal cord

5. Phenylalanine;  Amino

Acid that crosses the blood brain barrier. It has been reported that some

students take this amino acid right before important tests and school work to

help concentration.

 From the Prescription

for Nutritional Healing book

                It¢s the only Amino Acid that

crosses the blood brain barrier and can have a direct effect on Brain chemistry.

Has a role in synthesizing neurotransmitters that promote alertness.  

 

So this is what im taking soon for my brain repair. All of em!! I hope it helps.

 

Elias

[Guest guest]

IONIC CURRENTS AND ION FLUXES IN NEUROSPORA CRASSA HYPHAE

http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/58/12/3475

I dont think the neurons are the problem, it's the paths they travel

that suffer damage that may or may not heal. olfactory tract,axon

rewwa,myelinated and unmyelinated nerves,ect. but even than it still

comes down to receptors, while some may suffer repairable tempory

shorts other may get damaged as in permanent open circuts.some

circuts that heal may heal to the wrong circut. going around shocking

everything you touch during dry weather? how does that play in with

dry,dusty and whats in the dry particle filled air that bring on the

shocking affects. I'm like a millivoltage regulator that conducts

during dry weather and grounds during wet weather.

I think fungi may have the power regardless of any genitics to zap

our receptors.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> By the way, I've gotten back at least 50% of my sense of smell..

>

> Some parts of the brain, like olfactory neurons, do repair

themselves...

>

> My short term memory?

> Still really bad, don't have numbers to evaluate it but

subjectively,

> seems like improvement has been almost nil.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I actually think that a tragic amount of early dementia IS reversible

because its due to brain hypoperfusion caused by hypersensitivity

reactions..

Which is exactly what I get when I am exposed to mold or even VOCs.. I

recognize the signs (for me, fatigue, sweating, tinging in fingers)

Its the brain blood vessels closing up..

It means- get out of there!

Open windows, run.. whatever..

Cholestyramine seems to help a lot if its from mold.. (have to always

say this first because its the one that has been the biggest help..)

Arginine and creatine (together) seems to help a bit, whey protein

seems to help, vinpocetine seems to help, high dose Coenzyme Q10 seems

to help with some of it.. (less consistant than the others).

*Piracetam* definitely helps..

[Guest guest]

at high dose exposures dementia can happen because of a lot more than

lack of oxygen to the brain and before hypersensitiviy is even

thought about. vessel leaks and csf leaks do their damage. there a

hudge difference is not being able to think because of lack of oxygen

to the brain and lesions that leave perment scars and inhibit healing

depending on where those lesions are. I think theres alot of

veritavles regarding hypoperfusion and what damage it actually does,

related to constriction and time.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> I actually think that a tragic amount of early dementia IS

reversible

> because its due to brain hypoperfusion caused by hypersensitivity

> reactions..

>

> Which is exactly what I get when I am exposed to mold or even

VOCs.. I

> recognize the signs (for me, fatigue, sweating, tinging in fingers)

>

> Its the brain blood vessels closing up..

>

> It means- get out of there!

>

> Open windows, run.. whatever..

>

> Cholestyramine seems to help a lot if its from mold.. (have to

always

> say this first because its the one that has been the biggest help..)

>

> Arginine and creatine (together) seems to help a bit, whey protein

> seems to help, vinpocetine seems to help, high dose Coenzyme Q10

seems

> to help with some of it.. (less consistant than the others).

>

> *Piracetam* definitely helps..

>

[Guest guest]

There is a doctor I heard about who has had great success with reversing brain

damage in stroke victims. He uses something called Relox therapy. He is

primarily involved with thyroid and adrenal treatment. I wonder if it would help

those of us who's brains have been affected by toxins? Also, speaking of oxygen;

would hyperbaric treatments help as well as breathing exercises?

" http://www.drrind.com/pattest.asp "

Sam

> The difference is if its delirium or dementia.  

[Guest guest]

PubMed has a lot of stuff on HBOT, To me, it looks very interesting..

Why it doesn't get used more.. I don't know..

Especially in the military, for brain injuries..after Iraq, they

especially need something like that..

[Guest guest]

Try this link to Dr. Alfred .  He recommends HBOT, Hyperbaric Oxygen

Treatment.  The home page of his website discusses HBOT.  This treatment helps

to detoxify the body helping the healing process.  I've not personally

experienced it but have done a bit of research on HBOT.  I'm recommending this

to my sister who has a daughter severely challenged with cerebral palsy.

 

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