Re: Dr Chabot, liver doctor

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I suspect that a very great many people who have been exposed to mold

have also been exposed to lead from deteriorating paint.

Aroud a year ago I read a paper in PLoS Biology that explained how a

number of common toxicants had similar mechanisms of action..

Lead is very harmful to everybody, both adults and children. Ive been

tested for lead quite a few times and although the levels are much

lower than government triggers, (about 1/4 of the what my doctors says

would be a positive result) I feel that they are still high enough to

be of concern given my hypersensitivity to mold.

I don't have any buffer..

Also, blood testing (what I have had) just measures recent exposure.

Ive never had x-r-f radar or whatever it is where they measure the

radiation flourescence of your tibia.. (the best way to measure body

lead burden)

Everybody in my generation got substantially more exposure than is

healthy, just from leaded gas..

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

> Has anyone read any of Dr Chabot's books on liver and

> gallbladder health, or taken the products she recommends Livatone or

[Guest guest]

Well, my lead level was very high due to fact that I had just dry

sanded the paint in my bathroom with an electric sander, not knowing

it was leaded, so I inhaled alot. Inhaled is more direct exposure

than eating paint chips. I had very high levels, much higher than

average and now I have none. Not sure what your point is but my

point was just that chelating using more than one method seem to be

very effective, and may be the case with detoxing liver also. I had

moderate amounts of mercury and went to the expense and time of

having mercury removed from my mouth. I never thought about the fact

that when I lost a filling, I was swallowing it and it had mercury in

it. My doctor was very surprised at no heavy metals detected, way

below average levels, just a bit of alumunim, probably from

cookware. Thinking of trying Chabot's advice on detoxing

liver and gallbladder but wonder if anyone had taken her advice or

used Livatone, etc. since Livatone is pretty expensive, $40, so

wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Her books aren't

expensive. Maybe available at the library. I should check.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>> I suspect that a very great many people who have been exposed to

mold

> have also been exposed to lead from deteriorating paint.

>

[Guest guest]

p.s. In 2005 when I discovered the high lead levels in hair analysis, I

called the state of Kentucky to get directions on having lead

assessment done on house, since I didn't know where it had come from,

and then had lead assessor out. He came with special tool to detect it

of course and found, even though I had tested for lead paint in house

and found none in the main living areas, the kitchen and bathroom (that

I had just dry sanded) had leaded paint as under layers. He also found

window ledges in house with lead dust in many places, probably

scattered by central air system when I did the dry sanding of bathroom,

so whole house was cleaned and ducts cleaned and then bathroom and

kitchen woodwork encapsulted and bathtub had to be coated with new coat

of non-leaded enamel, so I went to alot of trouble, then I chelated

with zeolite and also doctor had a topical chelating agent, EDTA, put

into a cream which I used topically for many months. I also read

eating a mineral rich diet helps to replace heavy metals with minerals,

so all this work I did and results were very good.

Lead will only show up in blood tests if they are done immediately

after exposure, before it has time to settle into bones.

[Guest guest]

Barb, you are lucky you caught that in time.

Good for you!

Lead is an issue we all should be aware of..

Lead and mold are often found in the same buildings..

[Guest guest]

If you take NAC for a long time your blood and urine levels of lead

and mercury go down.. its a safe, effective chelator..

I don't know why more people don't use it..

Now that I am doing better, I don't need to take a lot.. just one or 2

x 500 mg a few days on, then a few days off..

I alternate with whey protein..

If you are having lung issues, it clears out your lungs..

[Guest guest]

Live, do you have any allergies?

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> If you take NAC for a long time your blood and urine levels of lead

> and mercury go down.. its a safe, effective chelator..

>

> I don't know why more people don't use it..

>

> Now that I am doing better, I don't need to take a lot.. just one or 2

> x 500 mg a few days on, then a few days off..

>

> I alternate with whey protein..

>

> If you are having lung issues, it clears out your lungs..

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry but what is NAC? My brother in law is having some pretty bad

lung issues after exposure.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> If you take NAC for a long time your blood and urine levels of lead

> and mercury go down.. its a safe, effective chelator..

>

> I don't know why more people don't use it..

>

> Now that I am doing better, I don't need to take a lot.. just one or 2

> x 500 mg a few days on, then a few days off..

>

> I alternate with whey protein..

>

> If you are having lung issues, it clears out your lungs..

>

[Guest guest]

n-acetylcysteine. You can get it at GNC, its around $12 for 90 x 500

mg. Last I looked, its a gold bottle.

But lung issues after mold is a different thing than heavy metals..

If he has any serious disease before he takes anything for any length

of time, he should ask his pulmonologist..

Mine agreed with me, its helpful..

Make sure you have a good one.. I was very lucky to get a good referral..

Follow this link for PubMed search....he should print out the

abstracts and any PDFs of the relevant stuff and give to doctor..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=n-acetylcysteine

[Guest guest]

NAC: I found this.

http://tinyurl.com/9yopf

--- In , " healthyhayashis " <amhayashi@...>

wrote:

>

> Sorry but what is NAC? My brother in law is having some pretty bad

> lung issues after exposure.

[Guest guest]

Oh, I remember taking NAC now. I had bad reaction to it, almost first

dose so couldn't. I was really reacting to all kinds of things at

first. I couldn't tolerate the CSM, couldn't take Milk Thistle, etc,

etc. I got a bad painful rash. I can take CSM and Milk Thistle now

though, so it was something temporary or it was when I was sicker or

weaker than I am now. You can start to move things around and it can

be too much for you. I had to gently detox from lead. I remember

discussing this with my doctor at the time. I used a method used to

chelate mercury for autistic kids.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> n-acetylcysteine. You can get it at GNC

[Guest guest]

Live,

Is it the NAC that helps the lungs as well as the whey? I would be interested in

how much you take of each and when. Having copd, anything that can help bring

relief would be most welcome. If this is getting off-topic, please feel free to

post me directly.

Thanks

Sam

> From: LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

> If you take NAC for a long time your blood and urine levels

> I alternate with whey protein..

> If you are having lung issues, it clears out your lungs..

[Guest guest]

Sam,

COPD is a serious disease, and I hope that you are lucky enough to

have a good pulmonologist who is treating you.

If your pulmonologist has the time, he or she should go to this URL

and scan the papers that are returned when type in

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=n-acetylcysteine Or you

can do that, adding COPD (or whatever search terms that apply) and use

your common sense to drill down to whatever seems relevant..

Pub Med is an incredible resource to have at your fingertips. Use it.

Whatever you do, do it consciously..

[Guest guest]

Sam,

If your pulmonologist has the time, he or she should go to this URL

and scan the papers that are returned when you search for

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=n-acetylcysteine

I have no idea whether oral NAC would help COPD. COPD is a serious

disease, and I am sure you have a pulmonologist who is treating you.

That is the best place to go with stuff you find.

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Sam <yaddayadda53@...> wrote:

> Live,

>

> Is it the NAC that helps the lungs as well as the whey? I would be

> interested in how much you take of each and when. Having copd, anything that

> can help bring relief would be most welcome. If this is getting off-topic,

> please feel free to post me directly.

>

> Thanks

> Sam

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Live, I will take your advice and check it out. I know how serious this

is. Been dealing with it for some time now. Am hoping to someday find protocols

that will allow me, if possible to wean off of the drugs and their serious

side-effects.

Sam

> COPD is a serious disease,

[Guest guest]

Many thanks, Live!

Sam

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=n-acetylcysteine

>

> I have no idea whether oral NAC would help COPD.

[Guest guest]

Have you had a hair analysis?

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> If you take NAC for a long time your blood and urine levels of lead

> and mercury go down.. its a safe, effective chelator..

>

>