They know they are hurting people but they want to always pretend they don't know

[Guest guest]

The same thing happened in my building many times. I tried to explain

to the guys over

on the mold pros list that the bad ones never tell anyone its mold or

take precautions because that

to them, would be acknowledging guilt.. EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW....

when they are known to know.. when they have been told..

They blame the victims..

They know they are hurting people but they want to always pretend they

don't know.

Nobody acknowledged hearing this.. The interesting thing about this is

that a few posts previously, it had been acknowledged by one of the

semi-dehards on the list who usually is very skeptical about mold

toxicity, that THE AMOUNTS OF SPORES FOUND DURING MOLD REMEDIATION -

which as I understand can exceed 1 million CFU/square meter.. IS

toxic.. even the diehards agreed that.. (of course, they are never

exposed directly to levels like that because in THEIR world, when

people crack into walls in those known mold situations, they use " PPE "

personal protective equipment.. HEPA filter masks.. Tyvek suits,

gloves, etc..

Well, I was trying to explain to them that that is a different

standard than is used in the UGLY world of working people's homes and

workplaces.. the kinds of places THAT DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HIRE A

PROFESSIONAL FIRM WHEN AFTER ALL, THEY ARE ON A JIHAD TO INSIST THAT

MOLD IS HARMLESS.. (to admit anything else would be to also admit that

they had been poisoning people for years..)

Nobody answered this or said anything..

In my old apartment building, my complaints and hiring a lab (who

found abundant stachybotrys and asp/pen)

PRECEEDED a series of uncontrolled, uncontained openings of walls with

NO acknowledgement and no containment, while other tenants in the

building were gone.. I even videotaped two of them.. to show how they

worked.. the time they were cracking into the bathroom tile, through a

glass door.. wearing a mask.. (I had a lot of courage but in

retrospect I should have left the building.. but i was desperate to

stop this and get my apartment fixed PROFESSIONALLY. I didnt want to

move because I knew I wouldnt be able to find another place..)

Even after the city had issued a " stop work order " because of another

inspector (who was also made sick by the smell) had posted on the

building a sign saying immediately stop work because of mold and

unsafe situation and possible lead paint (100 year old building) they

continued to break down walls.. with no protection whatsoever.. the

workers weren't even told.. (they tore the signs down)

I have photos and as I said, even used my digital camera to make a

short video (just so you could hear the chipping and see the dust

pouring out of that bathroom through the glass door..) low-res video

(with sound) of the demolition..

THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME..

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Patilla DaHun <glypella@...> wrote:

>

> A year after I left United HealthCare, they gutted the building in

> which I had worked. It was done by a Chicago firm and those poor

> workers had NO bodily protection on them - no HazMat suits, no masks,

> nothing. They also did not put up a barrier between buildings and the

> dust was thick. The workers had to walk through it to get to other

> sections and said it was nasty. I doubt that any of those men are well

> or alive today.

>

> Barth

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