Dr.

June 9, 1999

Hello All,

Dr. address is taken care by someone else at the clinic it is

kevin@...

Welp eight hours is better that 96 hours one way if nothing breaks I

think I would fly in to see him and stay with friends.

Raven

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November 17, 1999

Oops. I did the same thing. I also contacted Dr. Horowitz's office to see if

he would talk.

beth

> Just to let you all know I contacted Dr. B and got his permission to give

> his name to Dr. . Hopefully he will contact him and get a good

story.

> I also gave him the name and number of the lawyer who handles alot of

these

> drs and patients cases. That should put him on the right track with

> verifiable information.

>

November 17, 1999

Dr. writes a column for TIME every couple of weeks. That leaves him

plenty of time to have a real job, or many non-real jobs. =) It's probably

the same person.

Robynn

[Lyme-aid] Dr.

> From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

> Was just watching the 6am news on NY channel 4 and there IS a Dr. Ian

.

> So I am not crazy! . Are we sure our Dr. Ian is the TIME reporter

or

> is it this guy? I can't figure out how to tell from the address. I

> imagine it is the national guy from TIME though, not a local reporter. I

am

> going to write the TV guy anyhow, I'll go through the NBC website, there

is

> something about the guy that is really endearing. I will call Dr.

> Burrascano for permission to use his name today. Sharon

November 17, 1999

Hi Sharon,

Great news....did I miss something, are more doctors other than

Burrascano being investigated??? I read the number 17 somewhere or

other....I am getting so many lists now, I am totally confused...anyone

else?

If more than Burrascano are in the hot seat, can someone provide their names

and more details.

Thanks, this is very exciting,

Marta NJ

>From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

>Just to let you all know I contacted Dr. B and got his permission to give

>his name to Dr. . Hopefully he will contact him and get a good story.

>I also gave him the name and number of the lawyer who handles alot of these

>drs and patients cases. That should put him on the right track with

>verifiable information.

>

>Will let you know if I get another response. Exciting, no?

>Sharon

November 17, 1999

Excuse my comments regarding Doctor Ian ... Lyme paranoia or maybe

foot in mouth disease ... ; ) His credentials and experience sound

legitimate to me.

RK [sitting in computer chair with foot in mouth]

-----Original Message-----

>From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

>Was just watching the 6am news on NY channel 4 and there IS a Dr. Ian

.

>So I am not crazy! . Are we sure our Dr. Ian is the TIME reporter

or

>is it this guy? I can't figure out how to tell from the address. I

>imagine it is the national guy from TIME though, not a local reporter. I

am

>going to write the TV guy anyhow, I'll go through the NBC website, there is

>something about the guy that is really endearing. I will call Dr.

>Burrascano for permission to use his name today. Sharon

November 18, 1999

In a message dated 11/17/1999 3:38:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mlmccoy@... writes:

<< Great news....did I miss something, are more doctors other than

Burrascano being investigated??? I read the number 17 somewhere or

other....I am getting so many lists now, I am totally confused...anyone

else?

If more than Burrascano are in the hot seat, can someone provide their names

and more details.

Thanks, this is very exciting,

Marta NJ >>

Marta,

My Doctor.. Orens, M.D. in Great Neck is also being investigated.

He is very willing to talk and or do anythign he can to help us out.

November 18, 1999

In a message dated 11/18/1999 10:05:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

BearyPrety@... writes:

<< Marta,

My Doctor.. Orens, M.D. in Great Neck is also being investigated.

He is very willing to talk and or do anythign he can to help us out.

>>

,

May I pass this on to Rita Stanley? She said the doc's are going to have

to all speak up about what is happening or they will be lost one by one.

I'm sure Rita would like to know he is willing to talk.

Marleen

November 18, 1999

Will you put him in touch w/ Dr. ?

beth

Re: [Lyme-aid] Dr.

> From: BearyPrety@...

>

> In a message dated 11/17/1999 3:38:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> mlmccoy@... writes:

>

> << Great news....did I miss something, are more doctors other than

> Burrascano being investigated??? I read the number 17 somewhere or

> other....I am getting so many lists now, I am totally confused...anyone

> else?

> If more than Burrascano are in the hot seat, can someone provide their

names

> and more details.

> Thanks, this is very exciting,

> Marta NJ >>

>

> Marta,

> My Doctor.. Orens, M.D. in Great Neck is also being investigated.

> He is very willing to talk and or do anythign he can to help us out.

>

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November 21, 1999

In a message dated 11/21/1999 1:48:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mellillo1@... writes:

> I think that Dr. has contacted atleast 2 of us, beth and myself.

> I have been in contact with him back and forth a few times. At this point

I

> think he has an idea of what he would like to investigate. I have asked

>

Hello Sharon: Just in case you missed my previous post...

I was also contacted by Dr. ....and my response from him

had nothing to do with the Dr. investigations. In fact, I did not

even mention the investigations in my original mass emailing. My

letter was very personal, as I was hoping to get to some " hearts "

out there to help " us " . I know the loving doctors need help and

support.....but I didn't want the realities of living with lyme to

be ignored....as we are those truly suffering. I believe that Dr.

truly has heart about this issue, and I am sure he will do

what he can to help all of us.

Fransea

NJ Seashore

November 22, 1999

Hi Sharon & Fransea,

I too, would love to know how Fransea made out with the hurricane, and

Sharon I am so impressed that you remembered it was named Floyd....I wracked

my brain trying to remember the name and came up empty. As for Dr , I

guess I didn't get my mail to him, or maybe my letter was not as impressive.

Glad some of you heard from him.

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

>Hey, Fransea,

>Glad to see you back among us, how did you fair during Floyd. We were

>thinking of you.

>Glad to hear he contacted you also. My initial letter was personal also

and

>that led to the other contacts. Yes, he does sound symphathetic.

>My concern was overload for him, maybe I am wrong. I just know that I have

>been collecting information for a paper on the Lyme debate and I am up to

>145 pages of information that I have to decipher and am losing my focus.

Of

>course, Dr. doesn't have Lyme and probably can focus much better than

>me.

>I am so glad he is contacting so many people, that is a good sign.

>Hope you are doing well,

>Sharon

>WNJ

June 10, 2000

I believe there is a Dr. Whitaker also in Jefferson, Texas that

does the IV -or at least the chelation type therapy. Might check him out

if you are near. Martha from St. Aujgustine, Fl.

rheumatic Dr.

>Dear Group,

>

>For those of you in the group who are patients of Dr. in

>Plano, Texas, this is to advise you that office is now closed. Dr.

> will be taking some time off, but will then relocate.

>

>If you live in Texas, the doctors we feel comfortable recommending to

>you, and who are using both IV and oral therapy, would be Dr. Pieter

>DeWet in Tyler, Texas (903-877-7171) and Dr. C. Bryon in Gun

>Barrel City, TX. (903-887-3736)

>

>Ethel Snooks

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August 13, 2000

You are correct. Dr. is not an MD. However

her studies are extensive.

Dr. Hulda Regehr , Ph.D, N.D.

Hulda Regehr began her studies in biology at the

University of Saskatchewan, Canada, where she was awarded

the Bachelor of arts, Magna Cum Laude, and the Master of

Arts, with High Honors. after two years of study at McGill

University, she attended the University of Minnesota,

studying biophysics and cell physiology. She received her

Doctorate degree in physiology in 1958. In 1979 she left

government funded research and began private consulting on a

full time basis. Six years later she discovered electronic

technique for scanning the human body.

Peace and Joy,

Gloria

Dr.

Gloria wrote:

According to Dr.Hulda , an inventor and researcher and

MD,

adds )

I don't mean to be disagreeable, Gloria, and I am a big fan

of Dr. 's,

but I believe she is a Ph.D. and N.D, not an MD. At least

that is what it

says on her book cover. She began her studies in biology in

Canada, where

she got a bachelor of arts, Magna Cum Laude and Master of

Arts, with High

Honors. Doctorate of physiology in 1958. In 1979 she left

government-funded

research and began private consulting. Six years later she

discovered an

electronic technique for scanning the human body. She

provides the plans for

her devices free in her books to benefit as many people as

possible. She has

been arrested for her efforts (case dismissed), but

continues to serve

people who suffer.

I am the only one awake in my house and am getting carried

away because I'm

bored!! Forgive me.

Love,

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August 23, 2000

> Mori White wrote:

>

> Does anyone know where Dr. of Plano, Tx has gone. My

> husband is trying to schedule his checkup.

Dr. has moved to Willis, Texas - north of Houston. The office

opened this week. Patients will be receiving notification of this move.

, D.O.

Willis Health Care Center

400 W. Montgomery - Suite 4

Willis, TX 77378

936-856-2705

Ethel

July 6, 2001

from: http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/fasciolopsis.html

(an Ohio State website)

" Fasciolopsis buski

Hulda Regehr claims that this parasite causes " all diseases, " cancer,

and HIV and AIDS, and several web sites use these claims in their

advertisements to sell various " cures " for these diseases. There are no

peer-reviewed, published, scientific studies demonstrating that Fasciolopsis

buski causes any of these diseases in humans. Furthermore, there are no

peer-reviewed, published, scientific studies demonstrating that the various

treatments, tinctures, cleanses, electrical devices (e.g., the " Zapper " ),

etc., sold through these web pages have any therapeutic value. "

further on, on the same page:

" ....Fasciolopsis buski lives in the small intestine of humans and pigs.

Measuring up to 80 mm (i.e., three inches) in length, it is one of the

largest trematodes found in humans. This parasite is found in many

countries in the Orient and, as with many other parasites that infect

humans, pigs serve as a reservoir host.

The life cycle of this parasite is similar to that of Fasciola hepatica.

The worms produce eggs (up to 25,000 eggs per worm per day) that are passed

in the host's feces...

Chronic infections with this parasite lead to inflammation, ulceration,

hemorrhage, and abscesses of the small intestine, and these can ultimately

lead to the host's death. Diagnosis of the disease is based on recovering

eggs in the host's feces.

Several books (i.e., 's) and a number of web sites state that this

parasite either causes directly or is associated with an increased risk of

cancer, HIV, or any number of other diseases in humans. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY

NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THIS PARASITE CAUSES CANCER, HIV, OR ANY OTHER

DISEASE IN HUMANS. " (Emphasis added.)

If you read on you will discover that this very large parasite is almost

totally unique to a limited area of South East Asia. This parasite has

NEVER been found in the autopsies of cancer patients in North America. On

this page you will find a link to another Ohio State web page

(http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/hulda_clark.html) which has

challenged Hulda to produce scientific evidence of her findings. To

date, she has not done that and the only response has been that of a

P. Amrein, president of the Dr. Research Association who has

threatened to sue Ohio State University over the above statements on this

web site. This link provides a detailed chronology of letters and emails

between Amrein and the owner of the site. Ohio State University's legal

department has reviewed the statements on the web site and has left it

intact. Amrein has never filed suit.

has NEVER produced a Fasciolopsis buski for any investigator, - the

cause of all of these horrible afflictions in Europe and North America,.

Her diagnosis of cancer are for the most part totally unsupported, and even

alternative medicine practitioners don't believe anything that she writes or

says. That can all be found at various web sites with documentation

available.

Hulda adds an " ND " after her name but nobody knows where it came from. Her

PhD is in physiology, not in medicine or naturopathy. Her cure for " all

diseases " doesn't even mention malaria at all, the leading killer world

wide - and caused by a parasite! She mentions only one case of TB (in

TCFAD), and has no follow up with the individual to determine if that was

'cured.'

Dr. Max Gerson was extremely controversial in his healing techniques, yet

many of his cancer patients were independently diagnosed and their cures

documented. His techniques are even more remarkable when you consider that

many patients were sent to him because other doctors had given up on them -

they were terminal cases. Dr. has no independent verification of any

type that she has found Fasciolopsis buski in any of her patients or that

she has indeed cured cancer.

I have gone from an original true believer, to a doubter, to now (thanks to

the Dr. link post) a belief that she just doesn't have anything to

offer other than the liver flush, and for that I thank her even though she

didn't originate it. I am open to believing and will do so when Hulda

presents scientific evidence of her findings.

Jim B

July 22, 2001

Submit a search on him at

http://www.naturalhealthline.com

Gavin.

> Has anyone on this list been to see Dr. in

> New York? Would like

> some personal feedback about him if possible.

> Thanks,

>

__________________________________________________

July 22, 2001

Dear Gavin,

Thank you so much for responding. I did a search on the site and only

found one reference about Dr. talking making a statement about

breast cancer, and that's it. Were you aware of any other references?

Thanks,

>

> Submit a search on him at

> http://www.naturalhealthline.com

> Gavin.

>

> > Has anyone on this list been to see Dr. in

> > New York? Would like

> > some personal feedback about him if possible.

> > Thanks,

> >

July 23, 2001

Hi,

Take a look here. Long article.

http://members.aol.com/naturmedia/gonzalez.html

> > > Has anyone on this list been to see Dr.

> in

> > > New York? Would like

> > > some personal feedback about him if possible.

> > > Thanks,

> > >

>

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August 7, 2001

Hello Marty,

I highly recommend Haley's book " Politics in

Healing " . There is at least one so-called alternative

(a chapter in the book) that is available today.

Gaston Naessens non-toxic 714X. It may only be

available in Canada though. Naessens was taken to

trial in the 1980's. Several people testified as to

the efficacy of 714X. It does not cure anything, nor

does it kill cancer cells which is what mainstrem

medicine is obsessed with. What it does do is boost

the immune system so that it is capable of defeating

the cancer naturally. I hope this helps. Gavin.

See a 1994 interview with Naessens by Moss below

http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/gninterview.shtml

Another article below

http://www.sumeria.net/tech/naessens.html

--- martywho@... wrote:

> For me, the timing for this dicussion couldn't be at

> a better time.

> With my girlfriend, , diagnosed with Primitive

> Nueroectodermal

> Ewing's Sarcoma (PNET) only three weeks ago, she has

> already begun her

> chemo on her metasticized tumors in her chest

> cavity, lungs, liver and

> on her back and rib bones. I came to this club to

> seek some

> alternatives and have a very open mind to all ideas.

> I shared my story

> and asked for help and was referred to Dr. 's

> site. I quickly

> ordered the book and found it fascinating. There was

> something missing

> with the " Case Studies " though: no follow up. She

> publishes cases that

> come to her, she gives her diagnoses and advice and

> then comments that

> she never saw him or her again and hopes they've

> done the right thing

> with the materials she supplied. That doesn't give

> any argument much

> support and doesn't qualify as a case study. The

> case studies that do

> have an end result or conclusion still lack the long

> term follow

> through. I know that she advocates " self-health " but

> it seems that

> she, as a scientist, would be more enthusiastic

> about the long term

> results of her work. I do believe in what she is

> doing, but she's

> givng us a gun with no bullets when any of us are

> confronted by

> conventional medicine supporter. Alternative

> medicine will not gain

> the respect and support it deserves by saying " trust

> me, it works. "

> How can I turn to my girlfriend and say, stop your

> chemo and fly with

> me to see Dr. when I don't have thorough

> scientific research to

> support it? Charisma and enthusiasm are not enough.

> Maybe a third

> party group of success stories can take it upon

> themselves to follow

> up on all of the 100 cases in Dr. s and even

> offer to her to act

> as her medical reporting arm and follow up with all

> of her patients.

> that includes the ones who didn't follow her

> protocol to the note, and

> the one's that stayed within the lines very

> strictly. Now that would

> be helpful to us all.

> Marty

>

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August 7, 2001

Marty

Please check out website www.klinik-st-georg.de

If you can afford to go there it is awesome and apparently does work with US

insurance. It is worth a call.

Ann

I went to Mexico and you can get great treatment there but it is stressful

and I came back with parasite I did not have before.

One of the best Doctors for alternative medicine is Dr. Cowden, buy his book

" Cancer Diagnosis " A Goldberg book from Alternative Medicine.com

If you can see Cowden you will be ahead of the game. He works from referral

only so email me offline if you want a number. He is in Ft. Worth TX.

jab4419@...

August 8, 2001

What clinic did you go to in Mexico? Was the parasite from while you were

at the clinic or from water or something outside the clinic?

Melinda

Re: [ ] Dr.

> Marty

> Please check out website www.klinik-st-georg.de

> If you can afford to go there it is awesome and apparently does work with

US

> insurance. It is worth a call.

> Ann

> I went to Mexico and you can get great treatment there but it is stressful

> and I came back with parasite I did not have before.

> One of the best Doctors for alternative medicine is Dr. Cowden, buy his

book

> " Cancer Diagnosis " A Goldberg book from Alternative Medicine.com

> If you can see Cowden you will be ahead of the game. He works from

referral

> only so email me offline if you want a number. He is in Ft. Worth TX.

> jab4419@...

>

August 8, 2001

Melinda

I can only tell you that I got it in Mexico either at the clinic where I ate

most of my meals or the hotel where I ate the remaining few meals. I drank

bottled water and took all precautions I knew to do in Mexico. The stress

of Mexico was a problem too, the clinic I went to was in town and noisy and

the hotel though nice it was noisy. I was most happy with the treatments I

received I just had to come home and get rested and get rid of a parasite

problem. I am cancer free today thank God.

Ann

August 8, 2001

First of all I must tell you all that I had my lump removed in the breast,

then I had one treatment of chemo before I found Dr. Cowden. He treated me

for at least 4 months. I decided on my own to go to Tijuana to see Dr.

Rubio, where I had a vaccine made from my own blood and spent 4 weeks there

being cleansed and treated with this vaccine. I returned and have stayed

under Dr. Cowden even till today. In Dec. it will be 2 years. I use Dr.

Schultz's cleanses and lots of supplements, herbs and homeopathics. I guess

I threw everything I learned or heard about that Dr. Cowden approved. Cowden

is a MD. and that is what I wanted to guide me throughout this very scary

time of my life. It is hard to pinpoint what worked the best, just like I

don't know what caused it other than I know many factors played a part. I

treated the whole body, mind and spirit.

I fortunately had a cancer policy, which I highly advise anyone who has not

had cancer to get immediately so you can have the option to treat naturally

only or combine traditional with natural as I somewhat did. I will never

advise anyone to use radiation. Every woman I was in treatment with that did

the radiation now has another form of cancer today or has died.

Hope this helps.

Ann

August 8, 2001

Hi

Since you are cancer-free today, would you please tell us the name, location and

phone number of the clinic you went to and their protocol. Thank you.

jab44419@... wrote: Melinda

I can only tell you that I got it in Mexico either at the clinic where I ate

most of my meals or the hotel where I ate the remaining few meals. I drank

bottled water and took all precautions I knew to do in Mexico. The stress

of Mexico was a problem too, the clinic I went to was in town and noisy and

the hotel though nice it was noisy. I was most happy with the treatments I

received I just had to come home and get rested and get rid of a parasite

problem. I am cancer free today thank God.

Ann

August 8, 2001

Hi Ann,

Thank you, Ann. Very interesting and informative. Congratulations on

your great success!!

jab44419@... wrote: