Adrenal Obsessed... a few more A-Ha!s

[Guest guest]

I was surfing around to find a less expensive place to buy Jeffries

book (I only have one of his studies) and I came across 2 pages on

this site:

http://www.usdoctor.com/cortisol.htm

http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm

the aha! for me was:

1. " SYMPTOMS: The degree of insomnia varies from mild: awakening and

falls back to sleep; moderate, cannot fall asleep or cannot fall back

to sleep; to severe, cannot sleep without over-the-counter to

prescription medications. The worse of the worse individuals cannot

sleep even with prescription medications. " (I WAS THIS LAST ONE)

2. Prozac™ and anti-depressants, Ambien™ and other sleeping agents

fail to address the underlying physiology of too much epinephrine and

too little cortisol, DHEA, Calciferol, magnesium, zinc and

gabapentin. Small doses of Ativen™, Xanax™ or Klonipin™ many be

incorporated acutely, because the individuals are 'panicked'

not 'depressed.' (Ambien and regular sleep aids didn't touch me but

i had done ativan and liked it last year except that i eventually

went up in dose over time and this year, i'm hanging low on teeny

weeny klonopin. probably because my vitamins are now up.)

3. The adrenal cortex releases CORTISOL (prescription CORTEF™) in

response to the pituitary hormone ACTH's signal. The problem is that

ACTH can only be turned down by Cortisol yet it triggers increased

release of adrenaline. The absence of the Vitamin B's and C's that

are necessary for the adrenal cortex to manufacture Cortisol from

being produced, aggravate and accelerate the problem of adrenaline

(epinephrine) overload. The cycle continues until intervention

breaks the cycle. That break can be a 3-month hiatus (vacation or

mental breakdown) or the modified Jeffries protocol that we

incorporate in our office. (PROBABLY WHY CORTEF DIDN'T DO MUCH FOR ME

THE FIRST TIME. I WAS NEVER ON ANY RIGHT DOSES OF B'S AND C'S...)

4. This page talks about d3 in relation to sleep:

http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm mine is very low...

anyway, don't know about this web site or doctor on it, but was able

to identify my insomnia with this very quickly... i just don't get

why docs don't think like this. I told my doctor, i'm not tired. I'm

wired and can't sleep. and she tells me i'm hypothroid and treats me

for fatigue. to bad there isn't a course in listening to patients

symptoms 101 for med students...

[Guest guest]

Check this one out, too:

http://www.umanitoba.ca/dnalab/med/adrp3.htm

Sam

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> I was surfing around to find a less expensive place to buy Jeffries

> book (I only have one of his studies) and I came across 2 pages on

> this site:

>

> http://www.usdoctor.com/cortisol.htm

> http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm

>

> the aha! for me was:

>

> 1. " SYMPTOMS: The degree of insomnia varies from mild: awakening and

> falls back to sleep; moderate, cannot fall asleep or cannot fall back

> to sleep; to severe, cannot sleep without over-the-counter to

> prescription medications. The worse of the worse individuals cannot

> sleep even with prescription medications. " (I WAS THIS LAST ONE)

>

> 2. Prozac™ and anti-depressants, Ambien™ and other sleeping agents

> fail to address the underlying physiology of too much epinephrine and

> too little cortisol, DHEA, Calciferol, magnesium, zinc and

> gabapentin. Small doses of Ativen™, Xanax™ or Klonipin™ many be

> incorporated acutely, because the individuals are 'panicked'

> not 'depressed.' (Ambien and regular sleep aids didn't touch me but

> i had done ativan and liked it last year except that i eventually

> went up in dose over time and this year, i'm hanging low on teeny

> weeny klonopin. probably because my vitamins are now up.)

>

> 3. The adrenal cortex releases CORTISOL (prescription CORTEF™) in

> response to the pituitary hormone ACTH's signal. The problem is that

> ACTH can only be turned down by Cortisol yet it triggers increased

> release of adrenaline. The absence of the Vitamin B's and C's that

> are necessary for the adrenal cortex to manufacture Cortisol from

> being produced, aggravate and accelerate the problem of adrenaline

> (epinephrine) overload. The cycle continues until intervention

> breaks the cycle. That break can be a 3-month hiatus (vacation or

> mental breakdown) or the modified Jeffries protocol that we

> incorporate in our office. (PROBABLY WHY CORTEF DIDN'T DO MUCH FOR ME

> THE FIRST TIME. I WAS NEVER ON ANY RIGHT DOSES OF B'S AND C'S...)

>

> 4. This page talks about d3 in relation to sleep:

> http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm mine is very low...

>

> anyway, don't know about this web site or doctor on it, but was able

> to identify my insomnia with this very quickly... i just don't get

> why docs don't think like this. I told my doctor, i'm not tired. I'm

> wired and can't sleep. and she tells me i'm hypothroid and treats me

> for fatigue. to bad there isn't a course in listening to patients

> symptoms 101 for med students...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Love it! so my interpretation of this graph is that since cortisol is

LOW, more of the pregnenalone goes down the 2nd column path of

converting to cortisol (because i'm so low and in need of it) instead

of distributing it up enough to move to the third column (sex

hormones). Am I getting it? if i boost my cortisol, the hormone

conversion from pregnenalone to hydroxypregnenalone will move over to

convert to DHEA and then THAT may in fact help the E, T lows that i

have...(maybe...)

am i getting it right? i saw something like this in the Vliet book

but it wasn't registering. what can i say, i can't learn too much all

at once. my brain cells are already slow from being burnt out...

Its no coincidence that all my 3rd column hormones are low i guess. I

seem text book adrenal fatigue. funny how the endo tells me my

adrenals are fine tho.

>

> Check this one out, too:

> http://www.umanitoba.ca/dnalab/med/adrp3.htm

>

> Sam

>

> =====

> > I was surfing around to find a less expensive place to buy

Jeffries

> > book (I only have one of his studies) and I came across 2 pages on

> > this site:

> >

> > http://www.usdoctor.com/cortisol.htm

> > http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm

> >

> > the aha! for me was:

> >

> > 1. " SYMPTOMS: The degree of insomnia varies from mild: awakening

and

> > falls back to sleep; moderate, cannot fall asleep or cannot fall

back

> > to sleep; to severe, cannot sleep without over-the-counter to

> > prescription medications. The worse of the worse individuals

cannot

> > sleep even with prescription medications. " (I WAS THIS LAST ONE)

> >

> > 2. Prozac™ and anti-depressants, Ambien™ and other sleeping

agents

> > fail to address the underlying physiology of too much epinephrine

and

> > too little cortisol, DHEA, Calciferol, magnesium, zinc and

> > gabapentin. Small doses of Ativen™, Xanax™ or Klonipin™ many be

> > incorporated acutely, because the individuals are 'panicked'

> > not 'depressed.' (Ambien and regular sleep aids didn't touch me

but

> > i had done ativan and liked it last year except that i eventually

> > went up in dose over time and this year, i'm hanging low on teeny

> > weeny klonopin. probably because my vitamins are now up.)

> >

> > 3. The adrenal cortex releases CORTISOL (prescription CORTEF™) in

> > response to the pituitary hormone ACTH's signal. The problem is

that

> > ACTH can only be turned down by Cortisol yet it triggers increased

> > release of adrenaline. The absence of the Vitamin B's and C's

that

> > are necessary for the adrenal cortex to manufacture Cortisol from

> > being produced, aggravate and accelerate the problem of adrenaline

> > (epinephrine) overload. The cycle continues until intervention

> > breaks the cycle. That break can be a 3-month hiatus (vacation or

> > mental breakdown) or the modified Jeffries protocol that we

> > incorporate in our office. (PROBABLY WHY CORTEF DIDN'T DO MUCH

FOR ME

> > THE FIRST TIME. I WAS NEVER ON ANY RIGHT DOSES OF B'S AND C'S...)

> >

> > 4. This page talks about d3 in relation to sleep:

> > http://www.usdoctor.com/insomnia.htm mine is very low...

> >

> > anyway, don't know about this web site or doctor on it, but was

able

> > to identify my insomnia with this very quickly... i just don't get

> > why docs don't think like this. I told my doctor, i'm not tired.

I'm

> > wired and can't sleep. and she tells me i'm hypothroid and treats

me

> > for fatigue. to bad there isn't a course in listening to patients

> > symptoms 101 for med students...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>