Re: Recently Remediated

September 21, 2008

I kept every window in the house slightly open because I couldn't

tolerate the chemical smell after remediation. I even wore a nose

mask at night. Honestly I think it took nine months or so before I

closed the windows. And I live where there are bugs out at night and

can get in thru the screen and even the bugs stayed away. We should

have had them replace the carpeting but naturally it was done under

duress and we could hardly think straight. llaci

September 22, 2008

Turing the furnace on high for a couple of days can help cure finishes and

speed up off gassing. Unfortunately you'd have to move out for two days to

do it.

Kenda

> I kept every window in the house slightly open because I couldn't

> tolerate the chemical smell after remediation. I even wore a nose

> mask at night. Honestly I think it took nine months or so before I

> closed the windows. And I live where there are bugs out at night and

> can get in thru the screen and even the bugs stayed away. We should

> have had them replace the carpeting but naturally it was done under

> duress and we could hardly think straight. llaci

>

September 22, 2008

Trust your body. If you are still getting sick, there is a reason.

What kind of testing did you do?

I am just speculating, I'm not an expert.. but my feeling is that for

stachybotrys- my strong feeling is that you need to use a combination

of many tests that can work even though stachybotrys *spores* often

don't show up on spore tests even when there is a serious problem.

Spore testing is done because its cheap, but the health issues and the

locations of spores in air, airborne or swabbable spores do not always

coincide when it comes to stachybotrys..

Fungal fragments, for example, can make people very sick, and they

persist for a very long time. They can't be identified microsopically,

for them, you need QPCR.

Spore tests often miss stachy. Often.

Post-remediation testing after a known stachy infestation should be

secondary to a sensitized person's own body. If your body is telling

you you are still being exposed to something, you are. It might be

mold. It also might be something else. (Fake wood products tend to

deteriorate very quickly when they have been water damaged.. could

there be formaldehyde?)

Or bacteria? As far as mold, once inhabitants have been

hypersensitized to mold, any place they live or work will need to be

much cleaner of mold than it would have needed to be before they were

massively exposed. Because of the sensitization. That is an important

issue.

Did you inspect inside of walls, etc, looking for mold or damaged

materials they might have missed replacing- especially inside of wall

cavities? Don't rely on this, but if you do do spore trap testing, do

it aggressively, run negative pressure to suck any material from

inside the walls into the space..etc.

That is asking for problems, because

spore tests will almost always say no stachy found even if there is

still a lot of toxic material in a building.

Appropriate testing might involve tests like a combination of QPCR and

protein inhibition assay using yeast, or QuantiTox ELISA test for

trichothecene mycotoxins - all would be done on house dust.

After a remediation, there should be NO house dust, is that the case?

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:54 PM, blythecassie <blythecassie@...> wrote:

> Hi all-

> I posted a few months ago when we found out our 1 year old home had

> stachy due to a construction defect. The builders insurance paid out

> the max which was 25k to fix our house. Replace carpet, sheetrock,

> cleaning of contents etc. Now that we have moved back in as of 1 week

> ago I have had shortness of breath, I get a deep burning in my chest

> and feel like I have a 10 pound brick keeping me from breathing

> normally. Any suggestions? The in progress mold test from thy

> hygenist came back clean but they never did the post remediation mold

> test. I went to Urgent care today and they told me I now have asthma

> and gave me an inhaler. My husband thinks I'm nuts because all his

> mold symptoms are now gone. Help!

> Cassie

>

September 22, 2008

If I were you I would follow up with a Toxic Mold Specialist. During the summer

I discovered mold in my home when my kitchen ceiling came crashing down on my

kitchen floor. Since then I've spent thousands of dollars with my previous

physician who swore that nothing was wrong with me. He even suggested that I

don't come back to see him and to get a second opinion. I had a sore throat for

2 months and the same physician said that my strep test came back negative and

that I was fine. I also recieved another negative strep test, a negative lyme

disease test and a negative menegitis test at the emergency room. I decided to

see an ear nose throat specialist who discovered ulcers in my throat. Well I

went to see Dr. Shoemaker on last week and I found out today the I tested

positive for lyme disease and that I have 55% inflammation in my body. I would

highly recommend that you see a toxic mold specialist. I was placed on asthma

and allergy

medication by my previous physician who knew absolutely nothing. I now have a

new physician who is willing to work with Dr. Shoemaker. Despite what anyone has

to say about Dr. Shoemaker I find him to be very caring, compassionate, and

smart. I knew that my muscle aches, joint pain, ulcers, and headaches were

their for a reason.

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