Re: Inhalational Toxicity, Immunotoxicity of Trichothecenes, Probiotics, etc.

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Live, I cant begin to read all this much less understand it, Maybe you can tell

me in " stupid me " terms what this means. My thoughts of what I can tell is that

they are trying to explain a difference in ingestion or inhalation of the toxins

from stackybotrous which I can only asume I had bolth.

If it is airboure that it only takes a dummy like me to assume it will get on

something you ingest like a glass of water or lther stuff so I am not clear on

what this says.

 

Chris...

 

 

 

 

 

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lol's it means if your tummy hurts your

sinuses,head,neck,lungs and airways might hurt 3 times worse.

and your liver and bowel's are in a world of....! hows that for a

quick answer?

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you can tell me in " stupid me " terms what this means. My thoughts of

what I can tell is that they are trying to explain a difference in

ingestion or inhalation of the toxins from stackybotrous which I can

only asume I had bolth.

> If it is airboure that it only takes a dummy like me to assume it

will get on something you ingest like a glass of water or lther stuff

so I am not clear on what this says.

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[Guest guest]

WE CARE! when I went to Shoemaker he knew from my history that

I had found a apartment in 2005 that I could tolerate and started

practiceing advoidence not only to molds and myco's but also

chemicals. we bith understood that that meant that I was probably

clear of mycotoxins and do a fairly desent job of keeping my total

toxic load down to a level where I can be somewhat functional. this

does not exclude further exposures because nothing does when your

injured to this point. those injured to this point cant be going

shoppong everyday or even spend long periods of time outdooes if

theres particles in the air, not so much to do with what kind of

particles because MUCH aggervates there system. even what you eat.

it sure sounds like your still getting exposure to something that

keeping your system bogged down to the point that your not detoxing

much at all. either your still exposed to stachy somehow somewhere or

your not detoxing and even with severe damage it seens that with time

the stachy myco's should leave your system. I'm not talking about

other myco's or colonization.weither you are colonized with stachy or

not, I dont have the answer to that. I wish the antifungals would

have worked for you.

it sure sounds to me that you need a small place all to yourself

tottally free of all molds and chemicals. have you eliminated all

perfumes,plastics,ect. from your environment? I know your very ill

and this is the first step you have to take extreme measures on.

nothing is going to help you if your still getting exposed to any

aggervaters no matter what they are. dust, animal

hair,oil's,gases,perfumes,candle's,anything like that has to go and

it well still take time.this is when the csn well help you if you can

tolerate it. even after getting in this apartment it still took a

long time for me to get to where I am now and compared to than I am

much better but I have no life in exchange for felling like I'm not

dieing every minute of every day and haveing some level of brain

functioning back.

I would be the last person you would find indoors setting at a

computer even though part of my schooling was in programing. I didn't

even have a computer, I was always outside, I fought giveing that up

untill after I was here for long enough that my symptoms mellowed out

enough that I had to face that most of the time the air outside makes

me sicker.

it so sucks, I hate it, but after all those years being so damn sick

and several more after my exposure I have lealized that the price I

have to pay to have even this level of relief is to live like a

hermit.

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> Now why dont the docs know this crap. This really gets my goat

because while I could be sitting potentialy dying from this, whith

the lesions, changes in heart conditions, bile that is covered with

MASS amounts of mucous, possiable but probable liver issues. Nothing.

No one will, can or what to do a dang thing.

> I know for fact, I have 1.46ppb of tricothesines STILL in my system

regardless of the CSM, Anti fungals, etc and no one but you freaking

tells me this.

> I gotta tell you I have about had it with this nonscence and my

patience is running real thin. I hate to act like this but I am miles

underneath a bad mood rite now. To much crap going on and there isnt

a dang thing I can do about any of it. I inhaled the *%%^ out of it

and who cares.

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[Guest guest]

I have a Brand New RV that is covered in Stachybotrys due to a

manufacturer defect, I would allow any insurance adjuster/ insurance

CEO and everyone of their lawyers to take it FOR FREE for a week, or

longer, of fun in the sun!!! Then we'll get down to business with

regard to what mold " doesn't do " !!!!!! Have your people email me and

I'll hand them the keys!!! (they of course will be REQUIRED to sign a

release of liability)

Adrean

[Guest guest]

If your anger reply was directed at me, it was not my intention to

offend you. Or piss you off even more.

Best wishes to you.

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> Im not even kidding of my anger at the moment but dont even get me

started on the whole cigarette thing. I mean for real.

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[Guest guest]

What's sad and highly offensive is that NONE of them would EVER place

their families in a mold infested RV, yet...they would never admit

that there are serious reper cussions when you are exposed to mold.

Unfortunately until someone " important " is exposed....we're not

likely to see much progress.

Sometimes it's nice to make light of the shotty situations we're

faced with!!

Take care...

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> Hi Adrean!

> Hey save it so when anyone in the CDC doubts or denies the negative

health results of Stachy we can test their theory and have their

family live in it. Im sure only then would they consider the health

implications of stachy. I mean how many more families have to suffer

before they warn people about it?

> Good Post Adrean!

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