Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Long stories like this are Full of info but I cant follow it. I have no comprehension anymore. hey boo Tell me what are foods you must have since dx, or foods you avoid?? love and hugs d ps love the pics of the grandkids Kathy Brunow <kathy-boo@...> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~http://www.numedx.com/readstory.phtml?story=v3n2nutritionNutrition and cirrhosisCirrhosis, fibrotic (thickened and hardened) liver tissue, occurs in the later stages of hepatitis C in chronically infected patients.3-5 Complications of cirrhosis include portal hypertension (high blood pressure in the liver's circulatory system). Portal hypertension can result in ascites (fluid retention in the belly area) and varices (enlarged veins in the digestive tract). As with the hepatitis diet described above, people with cirrhosis need a high-calorie, high-protein diet. In addition, with cirrhosis, foods that are high in sodium and ammonia need to be avoided. Table 2 identifies ammonia- and sodium-containing foods. TABLE 2. FOODS HIGH IN AMMONIA AND SODIUM Foods High in Ammonia Aged cheeses, Salami, Bacon, Ham, Ground beef, Gelatin Foods High in Sodium Salt, Garlic salt, onion salt, season salt, Soy sauce, Monosodium glutamate (MSG), Canned soups, Canned vegetables & meats, Cured meats (bacon, sausage, ham, lunchmeats), Processed cheeses, Frozen meals, Salty snacks (chips, pretzels, popcorn), Pickled foods (sauerkraut, pickles, olives)Generally, no more than 2000 mg to 3000 mg of sodium should be ingested each day to minimize water retention and facilitate blood-pressure control. In addition to avoiding salty foods, salt in cooking, and salt at the table, it is necessary to select low-sodium foods in order to maintain sodium intake below 3000 mg per day. If varices are present in the esophagus or stomach, a soft diet should be consumed, and the patient should avoid any rough foods such as pretzels or nuts that could scratch those blood vessels and cause bleeding. Blood potassium levels need to be monitored, but potassium supplementation should only occur with a prescription and regular monitoring from your physician. Many cirrhosis patients need supplementation with the B-complex vitamins: zinc, magnesium, and phosphorous. Kathy Brunow Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Ya a, great idea. Good luck and Ill be waitin on that.. LOL From: a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> Subject: [] Food!! " sick buildiings " < > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 2:53 PM I know we talk about foods we can't eat but putting together a list to substitute for the things we can no longer tolerate I think we be extremely useful to the new memebers and even old members. Thoughts? K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 a, Okay, I know I get a lot of flack for acting like a " know it all " - I'M REALLY SORRY in advance.. But this question got me thinking, what a great question for getting people interested in A GAME.. a game with a purpose.. The purpose is making a list, maybe many lists, of helpful info.. WE could make a great resource - a really great resource.. Starting with that knowledge that a given food is good or bad.. we can store that knowledge.. lets store it and try not to lose anything in the process.. How do we do that? First, even though we know that we need something, lets think of why and how. Its sometimes a little bit complicated to make a list.. So, for the purposes of elucidating a goal, do we NEED to move unstructured data.. (messages in a list? memories? stuff we have read on web sites that may or may not be so reliable?) to a structured form? (a list) maybe - the advantage of a list is that its convenient.. A list is basically a table. A table is like a square with rows and columns, like a spreadsheet.. Each record has fields, one for each column.. Now, what do we want the columns on that particular list to contain? About each [food we can no longer tolerate] we can store its name what you can substitute for it what else!? first you want " metadata " what the hell is metadata? What is really going into that list? memories, experiences, of people.. Things doctors have told us? well, the metadata for each ONE of that would be information about its (the information's) source- Information about when we heard it and where we heard it and from who.. who was writing it down and whether it was their own experience or someone close to them (a child, for example) or friend.. information to let us find the original if we need to -if that applies.. and so on.. get the picture? Does anybody think it might be productive to play that game to build up first, set out the goal, then, lay out the shapes of the data, and then create holders based on the first draft of that shape, and then fill it with the data itself.. This is what I used to do and I desperately need to get back on that horse.. I can't think of a better thing to do to help us all and also help myself get better. better take advantage of it while you can! I used to get paid a lot of money to do this. I may not know as much as I would like about a lot of other things but this is something that I love. You all I think would love it too because IT CAN BE AS FUN AS A GAME.. I would LOVE to be able to share what I know and learn more on a journey to capturing a body of important knowledge.. I just have not been able to get up the energy without any help..I think we all have been there.. could we do this together? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:53 PM, a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote: > I know we talk about foods we can't eat but putting together a list to > substitute for the things we can no longer tolerate I think we be extremely > useful to the new memebers and even old members. > > Thoughts? > > K > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I love it, I heard you were a great computer geek before your injury. Shall we start with the basics first? What do you think would be the simplest format?? K From: LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> Subject: Re: [] Food!! , " a Townsend " <kmtown2003@...> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 3:45 PM a, Okay, I know I get a lot of flack for acting like a " know it all " - I'M REALLY SORRY in advance.. But this question got me thinking, what a great question for getting people interested in A GAME.. a game with a purpose.. The purpose is making a list, maybe many lists, of helpful info.. WE could make a great resource - a really great resource.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Below is the list of foods that Doug Kaufman recommends (KnowtheCause.com) He has a stage I & stage II diet that he recommends for trying to get rid of mold & which moldies should be on forever. Basics, no sugar, no white flour, NO YEAST! ------- EGGS FRUIT, berries, grapefruit, lemon, lime, green apples, avocado, fresh coconut MEATS, virtually all meat including fish, poultry and beef - no aged meat! VEGETABLES, Most fresh, unblemished vegetables and freshly made vegetable juice (stage II - add beans, yams, & legumes) GRAINS - none in the stage I and only oats,brown rice, quinoa, amaranth, millet, buckwheat, barley & flour tortillas & sourdough bread (in moderation) NO corn! Anything that is siloed - has mold. BEVERAGES, bottled or filtered water, non-fruity herbal teas, stevia sweetened fresh lemonade or limeade, freshly squeezed carrot juice VINEGAR, apple cider vinegar OILS, olive, grape, flax seed, cold pressed virgin coconut oil NUTS, raw nuts, including pecans, almonds, walnuts, cashews, and pumpkin seeds. Stored nuts tend to gather mold, so be careful! NO PEANUTS. SWEETENERS, Stevia, Stevia Plus, birch tree extracted Xylitol - absolutely no artificial sweeteners (nutrasweet, splenda, aspartame, saccharin, etc. DAIRY, Organic Butter, Organic Yogurt, (use the following very sparingly) cream cheese, unsweetened whipping cream, real sour cream. No margarine. Nothing with yeast - no bread, no mushrooms, no pasta, no alcohol Nothing fermented. Honey can be used sparingly. Farm raised meats & fish are corn feed, so grass feed would be best, if you can find it. Organic veggies are preferred. Dairy products that are anti-biotic free, no steroids, & Bovine Growth Hormone free. -- This diet sounds expensive, but it really isn't. You're not paying for processed foods any longer. You would be surprised how much convenience foods add to our food bills. In , a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote: > > I know we talk about foods we can't eat but putting together a list to substitute for the things we can no longer tolerate I think we be extremely useful to the new memebers and even old members. > > Thoughts? > > K > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 berries are often moldy, especially blueberries and most frozen berries avocodos often moldy also agave sweetener may be ok ghee whihc is dairy free butter is good no ground meat, unless freshly ground tuna is a concern if you are mercury toxic and possibly other fish also a toxic concern thats my 2 cents, amy ---I think nuts are problematic if raw and if fresh roasted it helps In , " wiedb " <wiedb@...> wrote: > > Below is the list of foods that Doug Kaufman recommends > (KnowtheCause.com) He has a stage I & stage II diet that he > recommends for trying to get rid of mold & which moldies should be on > forever. Basics, no sugar, no white flour, NO YEAST! > ------- > EGGS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I've been mixing frozen organic blueberries in with my sheep yogurt. Are they really moldy? They don't seem so...I know dried fruit can get moldy and I can't eat that. Anywhere I can research this as I don't want to be eating moldy foods. > > > > Below is the list of foods that Doug Kaufman recommends > > (KnowtheCause.com) He has a stage I & stage II diet that he > > recommends for trying to get rid of mold & which moldies should be on > > forever. Basics, no sugar, no white flour, NO YEAST! > > ------- > > EGGS > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 > I tried an experament of agave sweetener for a month-caused the same imflamation that sugar causes > agave sweetener may be ok > Basics, no sugar, no white flour, NO YEAST! > > ------- > > EGGS > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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