Re: advice please! My husband doesn't believe that the house is making me sick!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Sounds like that mold might be bothering him too but he doesn't know

it. Tell me about the floors in your house? Carpeting? Laminate?

How old is the carpeting? And where do you live, state-wise?

I've got a story about a house that made me terribly sick. My husband

also wasn't as affected as me and the kids somewhat. We finally

packed up and moved out of house, out of state. I got a lot better.

llaci

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth!

 GET YOUR BABY OUT OF THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!! Even if you dont have

conclusive evidence yet of toxic mold in your home i would not bring her back in

until only after those tests are done.

You need to have a professional mold tester come in asap! I understand your

taking air samples however its best to call in a professional and have him look

for the source of the mold. From there they can do swab samples and send them in

to a lab for species identification. Do you have any old water leaks in the

home? Follow the pipelines and see if you can see anything suspicious. AC units

can sometimes be the source as well.

And please dont worry about your husband believing you. Most Doctors wont

believe you so just expect that disbelief to trickle down to your friends and

family as well.

GET OUT AND GET THE TESTS DONE IMMEDIATELY!!!

ELI

From: TheBeth <thebethinator@...>

Subject: [] advice please! My husband doesn't believe that the

house is making me sick!

Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 1:59 PM

Let me try to symplify... we just bought this house in April of this

year and I instantly noticed a stuffiness that I assumed would air out

after some time, and I did notice that my sinuses would close up on me

[Guest guest]

I live in new mexico. Our floors are wood, carpeted in the living room

and the three bedrooms. The carpet all apears to have been kept up

nicely though not sure how new. And the 2 bathrooms have linoleum floors.

I'd like to hear our story. They only thing is, we're buying the

house, so just packing up and leaving is kinda out of the question

unless someone knows of a way to get out of the mortgage...

>

> Hi,

> Sounds like that mold might be bothering him too but he doesn't know

> it. Tell me about the floors in your house? Carpeting? Laminate?

> How old is the carpeting? And where do you live, state-wise?

>

> I've got a story about a house that made me terribly sick. My husband

> also wasn't as affected as me and the kids somewhat. We finally

> packed up and moved out of house, out of state. I got a lot better.

>

> llaci

>

[Guest guest]

We did have a professional come in and do a pretty thorough visual

check (on the main floor only-not in the attic or crawl space) and he

said we didn't have a problem. Of course he came by when I was not

home so I was not able to ask him my more specific questions. He is

the only one listed for this area. And of course before we bought the

house we had a visual inspection and they didn't see any signs either

and he did look above and below, as well. But there are areas of

previous damage and I beleive the floor in the main bathroom has had

work done to it in the not too distant past, so its possible there's

some mold hidden somewhere. Though every room in the house bothers me,

I don't understand this, I would think if it was from a leak or

something I would mostly be bothered just near that area. Any ideas?

>

> Hi Beth!

>  GET YOUR BABY OUT OF THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!! Even if you dont

have conclusive evidence yet of toxic mold in your home i would not

bring her back in until only after those tests are done.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow does this sound oh so familiar to me. She did leave me and only after the

fact became aware of what I was talking about.

I have not read the other replies that have been sent to you yet so I will leace

this at " YOUR NOT CRAZY' For now. One other thing. I am one of Dr. Shoemakers

patients. One of the first thing he said to me is 1. When he heres of a couple

fighting like this his first question is where is the mold. 2. Under no

uncertain terms, while smoking is not good for you, it is not causing your

problems. He asked if I am out of breath climbing a simple set of stairs? I said

yes but I do smoke, he again explained that the smoking has nothing to do with

that.

The first suggestion I can advise you on is to go to his sight

www.chronicneurotoxins.com There you will find what is called a VCS test. It

costs ten dollars but if you are sick from toxins you will know right then. It

explains more there but you can pass the test and still be sick but you CANNOT

fail the test and still be well. That is a great place to start.

 

You are at an awsome place to get all the help with information you could ever

be at.

 

Chris...

From: TheBeth <thebethinator@...>

Subject: [] advice please! My husband doesn't believe that the

house is making me sick!

Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 4:59 PM

Let me try to symplify... we just bought this house in April of this

year and I instantly noticed a

[Guest guest]

I completly agree with this about the baby. Alot of us have brain and organ

damage as adults from bolth short and long term exposure. The baby does not have

the ability yet to fight off what could be happening, and word for the wise.

Several hundreds of thousands of dollars later many people here have looked back

and said " I wish I would have done that " ...

From: E E <photoguys2003@...>

Subject: Re: [] advice please! My husband doesn't believe that the

house is making me sick!

Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:47 PM

i Beth!

 GET YOUR BABY OUT OF THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY! !!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Yes, what a laugh. It's a good start but only if he is Super Man and

has x-ray vision would that be impressive. Hey, I wish that were the

case. Then we wouldn't even need to discuss sick buildings because we

could see the stuff.

>

> VISUAL???? That is not a proffesional and can tell you nothing. He

[Guest guest]

---You will have to put your health, and that of your children, first-

before convincing your husband that these things are real, or that

you still love him-Please I know what I am talking about-go live with

a friend or relative-see if you feel better-wash all your clothes at

a Laundramatte befor going to your safe harbour. You must make re-

location a priority before you compramise your health permenantly. My

husband made fun of my mold issues for years-then committed suicide

from the nuerological effects the mold toxin did to his health. Going

through these problems with a disbelieving spouse is the worse.>

> Let me try to symplify... we just bought this house in April of this

> year and I instantly noticed a stuffiness that I assumed would air

out

> after some time, and I did notice that my sinuses would close up on

me

[Guest guest]

IMHO, your marriage is already over, and you should now focus on the

most important issue of your post-married life, which is KEEPING

YOUR DAUGHTER ALIVE. My 92 year old father died last month, as a

direct result of one hour of mold exposure, 7 days a week, for 2

years. The mold was in his car. Death, from our illness, comes first

to the very old and the very young. You will know when you are in

danger of dying, but your 3 month old daughter will NOT know when

she is in danger of dying. She will just die.

When you get to divorce court, if your husband can convince the

judge that you are " crazy " , the judge may give your husband custody

of your daughter, which would be a DEATH SENTENCE for your daughter,

if your husband continues to keep her in your present home.

I have read all the postings on Sickbuildings, for a few years, and

I can not recall ANYONE ever describe a situation where they were

able to convince a spouse that their sickness was real, AFTER the

spouse had already formed the opinion that they were " CRAZY " .

Again, IMHO, any " CRAZY TALK " , on your part, without taking the

ACTION of moving out of your death house IMMEDIATELY, will be used

by your husband's divorce lawyer as substantiation of the fact that

your MOLD FEARS were not REAL, as you did not ACT on your fears, by

leaving the home that you thought was making you, and your daughter,

sick. I am not a lawyer, or a doctor. I am just a very sad person,

in mourning for my deceased father, wishing that I had taken action

as soon as I realized that mold was killing him. I did not take any

action. I just tried to convince him, by talking. He is now dead.

You, and your daughter, are still alive. I hope that you will be

smarter, and braver, than I was, when faced with your moment of

decision, and your moment of ACTION.

.........................................

--- In , " TheBeth " <thebethinator@...>

wrote:

> But my husband thinks I'm making all of this up because I don't

want

> to live here anymore which is what I told him after the house

started

> making me sick.

> He's talking about divorce because I'm crazy, he just wants his

normal

> life back, which is all I want more than anything too, but he

doesn't

> believe me. He thinks I am just doing this because I'm crazy. He's

a

> good dad and normally a really great guy but I don't know what to

do

> to get him to believe just how miserable the house makes me feel.

It

> makes everything to do with the house miserable for me too, he gets

> mad at me because I wont decorate.

> I've tried to explain how I feel to him and I thought he

understood,

> but then when I talk about it again, he tells me he thought I was

done

> being crazy!

>

[Guest guest]

How long was the house vacant before you moved in, and was it vacant

over a summer without a/c running in house? House could have developed

problem while empty of occupants.

--- In , " TheBeth " <thebethinator@...>

wrote:

>

> Let me try to symplify... we just bought this house in April of this

> year and

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the kind words. The letters " IMHO " are email

shorthand for " In My Humble Opinion " . It's a way of showing that the

speaker is not trying to imply that he/she is any smarter than the

person they are offering advice to. We are all suffering, or have

suffered, from the same problems. We are all faced with the same

terrible choices, due to our common health problems. I made the

wrong decision when I failed to take action, when I was faced with

having to make my terrible choice. Offering my " humble " opinions, to

others, is my way of apologizing to my dad, for not having taken the

gutsy, " crazy " actions, that might have kept him alive.

............................................

--- In , <unitedstatesvet@...>

wrote:

>

> Sorry to hear about your dad Joe. That is a tough one for sure.

(what does IMHO mean?)

>  

> Anyway great post and said well, you are exactly right in your

advice. That is the same tactic for those that get involved in

litigation for other reasons as well such as myself. Although I had

no choice to leave as my reactions were severe but great post.

>  

> Take care of yourself Joe your a good guy and a great member, you

know we are all behind you and will help in anyway possiable.

[Guest guest]

are you related to Joe the Plumber? llaci