Re: Apartment tenants living in ‘unlivable’ mold conditions

[Guest guest]

I've been reading a lot of these accounts in which its claimed that

normal upkeep has

been postponed indefinitely " because of hurricane Ike "

Obviously, hurricanes have been happening for a long time ...

Has something changed legally to make people think they can do this?

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:26 PM, tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

> Apartment tenants living in `unlivable' mold conditions

> The Pasadena Citizen*

> By YVETTE OROZ

> 10.25.08

>

> http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2008/10/26/pasadena_citizen/news/10

> 2608_mold.txt

>

> The six-by-four-foot hole directly over the tenant's kitchen table

> speaks for itself at the Vista Bonita apartments.

>

> Managers at the complex were unavailable to comment.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. It is completely political. That is all I will say about it. But while you

think about it, ask yourself why FEMA had hundreds of thousands of black plastic

coffins stored just south of Atlanta for the last couple of years with the claim

that they are there for disasters just like that? (Google it) Why they would

spend all that money on that, not ever using one that I know of but get caught

up in " red tape " as to why things can not get accomplished is beyond me.

Much of New Orleans is still just like that with orders that the land owner cant

even get anything done, Yet " Hollywood Elites " like Brad Pit, BonJovi and others

are the ones responsible for the parts you see on TV that have been cleaned up.

When you figure that out, let me know.

       

        " We The People "   

        If we dont pay attention " we " will loose our rights to our

freedom.

> Apartment tenants living in `unlivable' mold conditions

> The Pasadena Citizen*

> By YVETTE OROZ

> 10.25.08

>

> http://www.hcnonlin e.com/articles/ 2008/10/26/ pasadena_ citizen/news/ 10

> 2608_mold.txt

>

> The six-by-four- foot hole directly over the tenant's kitchen table

> speaks for itself at the Vista Bonita apartments.

>

> Managers at the complex were unavailable to comment.

>

[Guest guest]

Huh?

What I think is criminal is the way that any and every excuse is now

used commonly by responsible parties in industry

and government to avoid executing their respective responsibilities -

This is behavior that is unacceptable and would have been unacceptable

for most of my lifetime. There seems to be zero accountability at the

highest levels.. its like there is an agreement between all the

various predatory entities to ignore or cover up each others crimes or

something..

In many cases, even if new laws have not been able to be passed or had

been proposed but died in committee,

there are EXISTING laws that could have been applied, but the agencies

that should be applying

them have CHOSEN to ignore them. Often, its funding issues. They dont

have any money for enforcement of anything.

There must be some kind of corruption going on and I think we need to

ask ourselves, apart from the lack of funding for enforcement, whch is fixable,

what is broken in these organizations that is allowing them to avoid

accountability, and fix it.

There need to be explicit laws against allowing the foxes to guard the

henhouse. That lobbyist>government revolving door has become a SERIOUS

problem.

When I was a kid, (up until the 80s) ignoring dangerous things that

impacted working people on such a large scale

would have been unacceptable, in both government (ignoring their

responsibility to do what it takes to ensure consumer safety)

and in industry (do what it takes to remove irresponsible corporate

officers, etc. IMMEDIATELY when its shown that they are

doing things that expose corporations to potential liability.. Perhaps

this was done because people DID sue them then and win, more often, it

seems THEN than now. DESPITE THE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN - i.e. " tort

reform " )

Now more and more, it seems, they are rewarded.. There is a revolving

door between business and government and often the most odious and

irresponsible corporate lobbyists are now given jobs in Federal

agencies setting policy..

and Federal officials, often leave government employ to take up

careers as lobbyists.. helping the people they used to regulate avoid

responsibilities.

If we don't stop this, we might as well all leave, they will destroy

this country.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM, <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

 FEMA had hundreds of thousands of black plastic coffins stored just south of

Atlanta

 

I wanted to correct this. The word is " has "   I wanted to change this because

the story is very important to check out.

       

        " We The People "   

        If we dont pay attention " we " will loose our rights to our

freedom.

> Apartment tenants living in `unlivable' mold conditions

> The Pasadena Citizen*

> By YVETTE OROZ

> 10.25.08

>

> http://www.hcnonlin e.com/articles/ 2008/10/26/ pasadena_ citizen/news/ 10

> 2608_mold.txt

>

> The six-by-four- foot hole directly over the tenant's kitchen table

> speaks for itself at the Vista Bonita apartments.

>

> Managers at the complex were unavailable to comment.

>

[Guest guest]

Live, I first wanted to ask what the " huh " was for. I will clarify anything you

did not unerstand. I agree with what you are saying but it is much deeper that

what you state or understand, I am not sure which. The biggest problem is that

the corporations own our government and they will not do anything the

corporations dont want do lest the loss of money and many other things. Lrts not

forget the Federal Reserve is a privat bank owned by the Rockafellers and I dont

know who else. Like you I did not care much and have only been learning what is

going on recently over the last few years.

 

Anyway I know this is not a political group so I wont go to deep into it but

what is relavent to this group about it is that we have not been protected

against chemical and bilogical poisens at all and example being KCs post about

dirt being brought into this country in a suitcase. I am begining to believe and

am doing deep studies on what the government has alowed to happen but especially

what may happen in the future. This should be of great concern to all of us who

are already ill. The experiments, the dumped toxic waste. There is so much we

dojnt know.

 

Again without getting to deep into a political conversation (which is important

really) in a place were it does not belong I will stop with only the relivent

information.

[Guest guest]

Disasters and emergencies happen, and FEMA is tasked by ALL of us with

dealing with them.

They are who is tasked with dealing with emergencies.

When things like hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. happen, people often die, and

wouldn't you rather they had something to put dead people in- than not?

What can we all do to minimize the negative effect of emergencies on our

communities? Rather than freak out that the government isn't always there

when we want (or need) them to be, is there anything WE can do to make the

impact less and help people in our own areas if bad things happen?

Or ourselves, make it so we ourselves are more self-sufficient? Because when

you get down to it, that is the best way to help, we can help a lot in

emergencies by not being a burden.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM, <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: