Re: My turn. Live complaints enough

[Guest guest]

Alright guys and gals, we all may have a difference of opinion and

it's ok that we agree to disagree. Please, please, please do me a

favor take these type of posts to your email (and I'm not picking on

anyone). I just don't want to have to continue reading them even

though we all need to see both sides of the issue and each other

opinios, but there are other ways of presenting this information.

Thank you kindly,

KC

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> Jeanine,

>

> I'm not Bill Croft(!), have no vested interest in anybody except

> myself, any service or any product! The last time I spoke with him

was

> last spring, and I think that you are really making a mountain out

of

> nothing. I don't even want to attempt trying to guess anymore and

what

> I am doing that bugs you because when I try to speculate, I always

> seem to be wrong, so, whats the point. I have to just speak from

the

> heart.

>

> Look, you are raving at me. I don't understand why you are angry. I

> don't follow your situation closely enough to know everything, and

> honestly, I have bigger problems that I need to focus on than

pleasing

> you. I would prefer to be on your good side, but given that I am

not,

> I am not going to anguish about it endlessly. I am trying to

> understand what I am doing that is bugging you and address it, but

you

> are always very vague. Its not working for me, you have to be much

> more explicit in explaining what I said when you have a problem. I

> would be surprised if it wasn't a misunderstanding.

>

> We all make mistakes, and I am sure I make *at least* my share of

> them. I would venture to guess that the more any of us speak, the

> higher a chance we have of making at least a few mistakes. Like me,

> you are pretty opinionated on things, do I call you out when I

think

> you might be going up a blind alley? No, because I know from

> experience that I might easily be wrong.

>

> Okay, I can't guarantee this is always the case but I can tell you

> what makes me tick, morally and scientifically.

>

> I was lied to a lot about important things at various times in my

life

> and I have become sort of weird about people lying to me. It really

> bugs me when I think I am being lied to. That is a problem. I wish

I

> could be less anal about that and also, not infrequently, I take

> things way too seriously. Sometimes, I'm wrong. Its been a long

time

> since somebody hired me in any professional capacity, but when I

have

> been hired, I've tried to do my job, even if it means explaining

> complicated dualities where things are not black or white. There

are

> often pros and cons to any path, or decision, and its complicated.

>

> On these lists, things are not always binary, there are shades of

> gray. The proper answer may be different, depending on who is

asking

> the question. I do the best that I can with the knowledge I have,

> which isn't an authoritative set of information, and ts also not

> tempered by as much experience as many other people here. On the

other

> hand, I do know enough to be opinionated. I know what its like to

be

> trying to solve these problems even if you aren't rich.. and I try

to

> help people the best that can.

>

> Again, I am not selling anything or promoting anyone. Jeanine, if

you

> insist that I am somehow out to bother you I would be glad to speak

> with you on the phone and try to hash out our differences, whatever

> they are (! - I still don't really understand what it is that

bothers

> you!) if you want.

>

> What else can I do? I have said many times before and I would be

the

> first to gladly admit again that I have gotten a LOT of good

> information from your posts. I've also tried to send you papers

that I

> find that I think can help you, IMMEDIATELY, off list.. Things that

> might be things you could use.

>

> But, I don't really know the details of your situation that well.

> Maybe not because you didn't post them, its because my memory is

much

> worse than it used to be and also, because I dont read every

message

> that is posted on this list.. I used to, but the percentage of

posts I

> read keeps getting lower and lower.. I'm sorry, I miss things for

> that reason.

> Also, I think we all sometimes focus on the things that we are

> interested in at the moment and perhaps ignore worthwhile

directions

> that don't fit our mental models.

>

> Thats why scientifically oriented groups often have opportunities

to

> learn from each other, and in the end, accomplish much more than

any

> one of them could accomplish on their own. The " hive mind " sees

> (collectively) things that the individual mind does not see.

>

> If we can try to understand the good aspects of these discussions

and

> take advantage of them, we will move the science ahead by being an

> informed patient community. So many other illnesses have done that

and

> taken it SO much farther than we have. I think its because mold

really

> sucks the life out of people. We have to fight back, fight against

IT,

> not each other.

>