Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 Recancostat powder, made by Tyler, provides stabilized reduced glutathione 400 mg, anthoredoxins from beets and berries 200 mg, and 80 mg of L-cysteine per half teaspoon dose. Get it at a health food store, a wholistic pharmacy or from a naturalist get it mail order from NEEDS in Syracuse NY 1-800-634-1380 and www.needs.com Katy ***************************************** From: " Evely " > Can anyone tell me the things I can take or eat to increase intracellular > glutathione? > thanks > > jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 you measure something and its deficent. what you don't see is the host of other deficencies from missing building blocks like selenium. a hair test will give an indication of missing buidling blocks prepare to be upset. low glutathione is strongly associated with heavy metals toxicty and an inability to excrete or detoxify them. i'm stretching my memory a bit but whey and imumunocal were products addressing glutathione. > I know this is still fairly premature questioning, but I am wondering if anybody has experience with glutathione deficiencies? The Great Plains results seem to indicate something along those lines, but what I have read on the Internet seems to suggest that it is a milk derivative " and should be avoided by persons with milk protein sensitivities. " Can anybody give me the skinny on this one? > Thanks! > C. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Maybe it is not such a good thing that I postponed our trip to Pfeiffer Treatment Center for testing until spring. I have heard they do a good job of finding this type of thing out. Do you have any thoughts or comments on where one might go or what one might try to start working on the metals issue? I admit this is not a topic I have researched yet, I have been busy with the ABA we are about to start and the yeast issue that I KNEW he had practically since cirth, but it took me a year and two doctors to get the prescription! Thanks so much for your help! > you measure something and its deficent. what you don't see is the > host of other deficencies from missing building blocks like selenium. > > a hair test will give an indication of missing buidling blocks > > prepare to be upset. low glutathione is strongly associated with > heavy metals toxicty and an inability to excrete or detoxify them. > > i'm stretching my memory a bit but whey and imumunocal were products > addressing glutathione. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 parents do best themsleves compared to any doctor or center in my observation. if the child tolerates supplements then a broad based approach using minerals, vitmain enzymes and scd emphasis will be enough in most cases. a hair test will help you start to get a grip with the minerals. http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium/hair_test.ht ml seleniums as per http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/as_links.html thyroid minerlas are important for glutathione. you will get far better results than pfeiffer by working through this yourself. you just start with one thing and see how it goes. > > you measure something and its deficent. what you don't see is the > > host of other deficencies from missing building blocks like > selenium. > > > > a hair test will give an indication of missing buidling blocks > > > > prepare to be upset. low glutathione is strongly associated with > > heavy metals toxicty and an inability to excrete or detoxify them. > > > > i'm stretching my memory a bit but whey and imumunocal were > products > > addressing glutathione. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Elspeth, I certainly think that helping our kids synthesize their own glutathione is a critical piece -- possibly THE critical piece -- of our work to help them. There are many, many substances that contribute to the synthesis of glutathione. You may want to check out a presentation by Lang given at last year's AutismOne conference. The attached chart is from this presentation, and shows quite clearly that most of the roads of treatment we've been using with our kids lead to glutathione. The full presentation can be found at www.autismone.org. I'd post the full link, but the site appears to be down at this moment. In answer to your question, yes, I've given my son N acetyl cysteine, as well as most of these other things on the chart. The trick is getting them healthy enough to be able to tolerate these things. NAC particularly, some of the kids cannot take at first. The key is using small doses, and working to heal the gut and give the other things on the chart as well, to nudge the body into better functioning on its own without overloading it. Terri At 01:35 PM 3/7/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Hello > >I've been lurking for some time and want you all to know that I think you >are a wonderfully knowledgeable and supportive group. > >This is my first post, and wonder if any of you can help. My son was >diagnosed with 'late onset autism' quite a long time ago. > >We recently had his glutathione level tested and it has been found to be >way below the normal range. I know of some other kids whose levels are >also very low. > >Do any of you know of children who are similarly affected, and whether any >of them have undergone treatment with intravenous N Acetyl Cysteine (the >precursor of glutathione)? > >I'd be glad to hear any comments any of you might have. > >Best wishes to you all, >Elspeth > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Hi Elspeth, What kind of a Dr did you consult to find out his glutathione levels were low? It is interesting, because glutathione is the one of the amino acids they recommend you supplement if you have mercury toxcity. I am really intersted to know the type of tests they ran - was it a blood test? Thanks, ELSPETH CLARKE <elspeth.clarke@...> wrote: Hello I've been lurking for some time and want you all to know that I think you are a wonderfully knowledgeable and supportive group. This is my first post, and wonder if any of you can help. My son was diagnosed with 'late onset autism' quite a long time ago. We recently had his glutathione level tested and it has been found to be way below the normal range. I know of some other kids whose levels are also very low. Do any of you know of children who are similarly affected, and whether any of them have undergone treatment with intravenous N Acetyl Cysteine (the precursor of glutathione)? I'd be glad to hear any comments any of you might have. Best wishes to you all, Elspeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 We are doing glutathione through the DAN protocol. He gets it through infusions and we use a lotion on the small of his back twice a day. He has been getting the infusions for approximately 1 year. We do it every two weeks. Any other questions, let me know. Glutathione? Hello I've been lurking for some time and want you all to know that I think you are a wonderfully knowledgeable and supportive group. This is my first post, and wonder if any of you can help. My son was diagnosed with 'late onset autism' quite a long time ago. We recently had his glutathione level tested and it has been found to be way below the normal range. I know of some other kids whose levels are also very low. Do any of you know of children who are similarly affected, and whether any of them have undergone treatment with intravenous N Acetyl Cysteine (the precursor of glutathione)? I'd be glad to hear any comments any of you might have. Best wishes to you all, Elspeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 , It was through a blood test. My son's glutathione levels were tragically low. Probably why he wasn't able to rid himself of mercury. Re: Glutathione? Hi Elspeth, What kind of a Dr did you consult to find out his glutathione levels were low? It is interesting, because glutathione is the one of the amino acids they recommend you supplement if you have mercury toxcity. I am really intersted to know the type of tests they ran - was it a blood test? Thanks, ELSPETH CLARKE <elspeth.clarke@...> wrote: Hello I've been lurking for some time and want you all to know that I think you are a wonderfully knowledgeable and supportive group. This is my first post, and wonder if any of you can help. My son was diagnosed with 'late onset autism' quite a long time ago. We recently had his glutathione level tested and it has been found to be way below the normal range. I know of some other kids whose levels are also very low. Do any of you know of children who are similarly affected, and whether any of them have undergone treatment with intravenous N Acetyl Cysteine (the precursor of glutathione)? I'd be glad to hear any comments any of you might have. Best wishes to you all, Elspeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hi , Are the infusions helping him? Is there any other things you are doing in conjunction with the infusions? Is the glutathione creme a perscription? Sorry for all the questions - appreciate your help. Thanks, Athanasios Petsos <ionikos@...> wrote: We are doing glutathione through the DAN protocol. He gets it through infusions and we use a lotion on the small of his back twice a day. He has been getting the infusions for approximately 1 year. We do it every two weeks. Any other questions, let me know. ===msg thread truncated=== *********************************************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. --------------------------------- To visit your group on the web, go to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Do be careful with the glutathione. While I've heard some parents have had some good luck with it, when a DAN dr (who we no longer see) gave it to our kids a few years back, it was a major disaster for both, and not just what is normally called die off. That, super nu-thera, DMG/TMG and bethanecol/cod liver oil would have to be the most damaging things that have been done to my children under the guise of sound medicine. Maybe think about getting whatever labs indicate a need for it done first. I guess in other words, It should carry a disclaimer....don't try this at home! Even my two boys are soooo different in their biomedical needs. Also, I'm not sure about Dr. G's stance on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hello Thank you for all your responses, and apologies to for not getting back sooner with the information that the level is determined by blood test. Am I right in thinking that the IV N Acetyl Cysteine dosage is according to body weight? I'm wondering whether there are any side effects, and whether there are any cautions before we proceed. And how is the frequency determined? I'd also be really interested if any of you can tell me about tests which might indicate a leaky gut? Here we go on the (vertical?) learning curve! Apologies if you have been asked all this before, but it's great to know we're not alone! Best wishes Elspeth > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 I am sure the glutathione is helping in the fact that he is able to rid his body of toxins and if I am not mistaken it is also helping with the absorption of nutrients. The infusions are done in conjunction with the DAN protocol (Defeat Autism Now). The glutathione creme comes from Lee Silsby Pharmacy in Ohio. Their number is 1-800-918-8831. It is through a prescription. Are you going to any particular doctor? If it is Dr. Goldberg, he might write a prescription for it. Any other questions, let me know. Re: Glutathione? Hi , Are the infusions helping him? Is there any other things you are doing in conjunction with the infusions? Is the glutathione creme a perscription? Sorry for all the questions - appreciate your help. Thanks, Athanasios Petsos <ionikos@...> wrote: We are doing glutathione through the DAN protocol. He gets it through infusions and we use a lotion on the small of his back twice a day. He has been getting the infusions for approximately 1 year. We do it every two weeks. Any other questions, let me know. ===msg thread truncated=== *********************************************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. --------------------------------- To visit your group on the web, go to: / Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Could you elaborate on the glutathione. What was the problem for your child? We have been doing it for over a year and there have been no adverse effects. As for TMG, my son could not tolerate it even after trying to do NAET to eliminate any allergy issues with it. What was the problem with Super Nu Thera and cod liver oil? I am very curious to hear your feedback. Thanks Re: Glutathione? Do be careful with the glutathione. While I've heard some parents have had some good luck with it, when a DAN dr (who we no longer see) gave it to our kids a few years back, it was a major disaster for both, and not just what is normally called die off. That, super nu-thera, DMG/TMG and bethanecol/cod liver oil would have to be the most damaging things that have been done to my children under the guise of sound medicine. Maybe think about getting whatever labs indicate a need for it done first. I guess in other words, It should carry a disclaimer....don't try this at home! Even my two boys are soooo different in their biomedical needs. Also, I'm not sure about Dr. G's stance on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Check the archives, Andy has discussed it. S S <p>Any comments on this?<br> <br> Amy<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Thanks, . A. Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: Check the archives, Andy has discussed it. S S <p>Any comments on this?<br> <br> Amy<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 too many responses, over 5000. wouldn't let me view. :-( Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: Check the archives, Andy has discussed it. S S <p>Any comments on this?<br> <br> Amy<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 > > <p>Any comments on this?<br> > <br> > Amy<br> > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I don't remember the details but as I recall Andy says it's a bad idea. Here's a link to one of his posts. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/166086.html and the following is from the FAQs of this list: Q: I’ve heard that glutathione, chlorella, cilantro, cysteine, MSM, NAC, garlic, and saunas will chelate naturally, and that the natural way is better. Is this true? Don’t assume that because something is " natural, " that it is necessarily better. As Andy has reminded us, strychnine and botulism are natural, and deadly. That said, some natural remedies are excellent. LA is a natural supplement available at health food stores, and it has been found to be a good chelator for mercury and arsenic. You have to read about and study each one so that you have some idea what you are giving your child. All of these remedies have been discussed on the list, and some of our listmembers swear by them. You are encouraged to inform yourself and make up your own mind. But here’s what Andy and Amy say about them: Glutathione – Andy: " Glutathione is not a chelator. Supplemental glutathione itself is of very little value since your gut should digest it. If your gut is not digesting it you will soon start taking other things to MAKE your gut digest it because letting undigested things like glutathione into your bloodstream will soon cause major allergy problems. " S S <br> <br> <p>Any comments on this?<br><br> <br><br> Amy<br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Thanks, . That's all I needed to know. Someone on another list was posting that this was a good idea, I vaguely remembered this thread. Appreciate your help. A. Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: I don't remember the details but as I recall Andy says it's a bad idea. Here's a link to one of his posts. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/166086.html and the following is from the FAQs of this list: Q: I’ve heard that glutathione, chlorella, cilantro, cysteine, MSM, NAC, garlic, and saunas will chelate naturally, and that the natural way is better. Is this true? Don’t assume that because something is " natural, " that it is necessarily better. As Andy has reminded us, strychnine and botulism are natural, and deadly. That said, some natural remedies are excellent. LA is a natural supplement available at health food stores, and it has been found to be a good chelator for mercury and arsenic. You have to read about and study each one so that you have some idea what you are giving your child. All of these remedies have been discussed on the list, and some of our listmembers swear by them. You are encouraged to inform yourself and make up your own mind. But here’s what Andy and Amy say about them: Glutathione – Andy: " Glutathione is not a chelator. Supplemental glutathione itself is of very little value since your gut should digest it. If your gut is not digesting it you will soon start taking other things to MAKE your gut digest it because letting undigested things like glutathione into your bloodstream will soon cause major allergy problems. " S S Any comments on this? Amy _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Is this the coffee/glutathione enema or suppository you are referring to? I'm wondering if the suppository method would bypass the digestion/gut issue Andy warns about? Not that I wish to try it... Any supplementary glutathione I've tried with my son in the past has resulted in immediate disastrous symptoms: severe cramping, diarrhea, emotional distress. I've only done oral; but both lipoceutical glutathione (drops) and just plain old oral. Pam > > > > Any comments on this? > > > > > > Amy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 My son uses nebulized glutathione with great benefit. He is very chemically sensitive. Nebulized glutathione is especially helpful for recovering him from chemical exposure. We started it when someone blew chemicals in his face at a Mad Science birthday party. His behavior became immediately very mean and aggressive. Behavior problems disappeared almost immediately when we started nebulized glutathione. Also, my son had lidocaine at a dental visit and regressed to aggressive behavior. I increased his nebulized glutathione dose and got rid of the aggressive behavior right away. We've been using nebulized glutathione for 9 months. Our DAN! sees nebulized glutathione as an effective alternative to IV glutathione. You can do a Genova test to determine glutathione levels. Not everyone has a deficiency. Some people would say to use NAC instead, but there is a lot of info saying that this is contraindicated for mercury toxic people. My son did horribly on NAC. > > Any comments on this? > > Amy > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Have any of you heard of Nutrical? I may be WAY behind, I just found it online and was wondering what you thought of it? Does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Jeanette, we're gtting more precursors per dollar by using the less expensive undenatured whey isolates and concentrates than if we used Immunocal. It's $180.00 per month for just 30 grams daily of Immunocal; the cheaper products are about 1/8 the cost so you can use more. Duncan .. > > I am looking for something that has the best possible glutathione precursor delivery? I have read about this, is anyone familiar with it? Is there a better product available? > TIA, > jeanie t. > Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held it's ground. > > You will either step forward into growth or you will step back into safety. > > A.Maslow > SharPei-Health-Education > TheNaturalShar-Pei > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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