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I talked to Kirkman's last week and they said they were just a few weeks

away from offering something.

fwiw

beth

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>Subject: [ ] molybdenum

>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:45:36 -0500

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>Hi, can someone tell me where powered or capsule form of molybdenum that

>is gfcf can be purchased? Thank you. Rose

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Jernigan Neutriceuticals has one, www.jneutra.com ?? , I got it

through OmegaNutrition.com, which is mainly an oils site, but offers

a select number of good quality vitamins too. They also have a

powdered selenium methionine. Rose

> I talked to Kirkman's last week and they said they were just a few

weeks

> away from offering something.

> fwiw

> beth

>

>

> >From: " d701 " <d701@e...>

> >Reply- @y...

> >< @y...>

> >Subject: [ ] molybdenum

> >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:45:36 -0500

> >

> >Hi, can someone tell me where powered or capsule form of

molybdenum that

> >is gfcf can be purchased? Thank you. Rose

> >

> >

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> > In a message dated 1/11/02 0:54:06 AM EST, AndyCutler@a... writes:

> >

> > << You can figure it out by dietary experiment, too. It takes a

few

> > weeks and careful diet regulation to do it.

> >

> > Molybdenum supplementation helps make more sulfate either way.

> >

> > Andy

> > >>

> >

> > I'm not sure I understand what this last sentence means. Does

this

> mean that

> > supplementing with molybdenum would help both high and low sulfur

> kids?

>

> Yes. It helps with the conversion of sulfite to sulfate which is

> impaired in most mercury toxic people regardless of " sulfur " (more

> properly thiol) status.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Debbie

Andy,

Do you have a recommendation on dosages for molybdenum? My 5 yo

daughter weighs 39 pounds. She takes a supplement that has 5 mcg (6%

RDA) molybdenum, and when she is chelating I give her double that.

Is that enough? (It doesn't seem like enough to me, but I don't want

to supplement further without your input.)

Thanks in advance!

Carolyn

Also, you've mentioned in posts that vit E should be given 3-4

times/day when chelating. How much would I give her (per dose, or

daily total)?

Thanks again.

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Mandi, All you had to do was to take out the 'i' and add an 'e',

here is some information on ionic minerals. Best, Carlton

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Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>

> I think www.metabolics.com does an Ionic Molybdeum (sp?). I use the

> ionics

> which are colourless and virtually tastless and you give less because

> its

> more absorbable.

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

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Kirkman does sell molybdenum 100mcg capsules. We have been using

Nutricology liquid molybdenum (each drop = 25mcg) from iherb.com.

Charlie

> What is the best source for this? Is it separate in supplement

form say from Kirkman's?

> Thank you all so much,

> Jill

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> What is the best source for this? Is it separate in supplement

form say from Kirkman's?

> Thank you all so much,

> Jill

I believe you can get molybdenum (by itself) from the needs

catalog (I think http://needs.com -- if that is wrong look

for their URL in the HOW_TO_buy_DMSA file under sources for

small amounts.) Also from Apothecary Labs (the compounding

part of the business is listed in HOW_TO_buy_DMSA -- there

is a different number for the regular (non-compounding)

catalog orders-- I don't have it off hand but you could

call and ask.)

I don't know if Kirkman's sells it on its own or not.

best wishes,

Moria

p.s. it was also discussed about where to buy it back a

couple of months ago, in case you want to search for that.

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Karyn,

Our son in 40lbs, 6 1/2.

We give

Molybdenum 100 mcg.

Taurine 100 mg.

We are not currently using Glutathione.

Good luck,

Jill G.

klmitch@... wrote:

> What would the recommended dosage be for a 28# 3 yoa for

> Molybdenum?

> Taurine?

> Gluathione?

>

> Karyn

>

> =======================================================

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> What would the recommended dosage be for a 28# 3 yoa for

> Molybdenum?

I give mine (40 lbs) 300mcg/day (in three doses)

> Taurine?

I give mine 900mg/day, in three doses.

Valentina

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From a Willis post saved ages ago Ref Molybdenum

(Seema - I use Inonic from www.metabolics.co.uk)

.......Because we tend to undersupply rather than oversupply Molybdenum, I

would like to review these points, and to encourage more of you look to moly

supplementation. Most of our kids are lacking as you will recognize from the

below.

Foremost, all who are chelating must supplement Molybdenum unless a recent

testing shows high moly levels (unlikely).

Moly does these many necessary things:

1. Supports the adrenals. Most of our kids are lacking adequate adrenal

function because of their high stress life and poor diet.

2. Removes ammonia. If your testing shows high ammonia, or if your child

won't eat protein, then supplement moly and alpha-ketogluterate and other

things proven to detox ammonia.

3. Moly is rarely found in high ranges, but a copper deficiency will tend to

high moly readings.

4. Moly enhances sulfite oxidase activity potentially enhancing conversion of

harmful sulfite to necessary sulfate to aid the Phase II detox pathway.

5. It supports the liver and, with taurine and glycine, aids bile production

thus protecting against gall stones and improving digestion of fats. So if

the stool is light and taurine and glycine doesn't darken it, try moly

additionally.

6. Acetylaldehyde is a deadly toxic excretion from candida, and it requires

aldehyde oxidase to break it down and excrete it. This enzyme requires

molybdenum. If you are fighting candida, supplement moly.

7. Mercury, MSM, oral sulfate intake, and copper tend to deplete moly, so do

supplement under these conditions.

8. Our Dear children are poisoned by many things, including tungsten. If you

have high tungsten readings, this will inhibit action of moly and of

moly-based enzymes, tending to excess moly readings.

When supplementing, remember it doesn't take much, and more than 500 mcg

daily will chelate copper, possibly precipitating a copper deficiency. Two

hundred or three hundred mcg is likely enough for a child, but it absorbs

poorly, so adults may need 1000 mcg twice a day for up to 4-months to

overcome an aversion to sulfur foods. Children may need more under those

conditions, but higher amounts should be used only under the careful eye of

the doctor.

> Hi Pyue

> Where can you buy Molybdenum and can you give some information on this

> please! any website ??

> thanks in advance!

> seema

>

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Thanks Mandi

Again a confusing topic for me now do you suggest i do some test before

starting them! or is it best to understand about it more as i do not want to

start

any thing which i cant monitor v carefully like you said best under

supervision! are you doing it yourself well might give me some courage!!!

but it is some thing i would like to know more prue is posting some

information on it too!

lots of love!

seema

In a message dated 30/12/2003 13:46:16 GMT Standard Time, Mum231ASD@...

writes:

> From a Willis post saved ages ago Ref Molybdenum

> (Seema - I use Inonic from www.metabolics.co.uk)

>

> ......Because we tend to undersupply rather than oversupply Molybdenum, I

> would like to review these points, and to encourage more of you look to moly

>

> supplementation. Most of our kids are lacking as you will recognize from the

>

> below.

>

> Foremost, all who are chelating must supplement Molybdenum unless a recent

> testing shows high moly levels (unlikely).

>

> Moly does these many necessary things:

>

> 1. Supports the adrenals. Most of our kids are lacking adequate adrenal

> function because of their high stress life and poor diet.

>

> 2. Removes ammonia. If your testing shows high ammonia, or if your child

> won't eat protein, then supplement moly and alpha-ketogluterate and other

> things proven to detox ammonia.

>

> 3. Moly is rarely found in high ranges, but a copper deficiency will tend to

>

> high moly readings.

>

> 4. Moly enhances sulfite oxidase activity potentially enhancing conversion

> of

>

> harmful sulfite to necessary sulfate to aid the Phase II detox pathway.

>

> 5. It supports the liver and, with taurine and glycine, aids bile production

>

> thus protecting against gall stones and improving digestion of fats. So if

> the stool is light and taurine and glycine doesn't darken it, try moly

> additionally.

>

> 6. Acetylaldehyde is a deadly toxic excretion from candida, and it requires

> aldehyde oxidase to break it down and excrete it. This enzyme requires

> molybdenum. If you are fighting candida, supplement moly.

>

> 7. Mercury, MSM, oral sulfate intake, and copper tend to deplete moly, so do

>

> supplement under these conditions.

>

> 8. Our Dear children are poisoned by many things, including tungsten. If you

>

> have high tungsten readings, this will inhibit action of moly and of

> moly-based enzymes, tending to excess moly readings.

>

> When supplementing, remember it doesn't take much, and more than 500 mcg

> daily will chelate copper, possibly precipitating a copper deficiency. Two

> hundred or three hundred mcg is likely enough for a child, but it absorbs

> poorly, so adults may need 1000 mcg twice a day for up to 4-months to

> overcome an aversion to sulfur foods. Children may need more under those

> conditions, but higher amounts should be used only under the careful eye of

> the doctor.

>

>

>

> > Hi Pyue

> > Where can you buy Molybdenum and can you give some information on this

> > please! any website ??

> > thanks in advance!

> > seema

> >

>

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Yep I do it myself. Not out of choice, but necessity. I try most stuff on me

first but Sam's reactions seem way different to mine so I don;t know how much

that helps me. I am very tuned into him and reactions are much easier to spot

now. We chelate so its very important to keep mineral supplements going. I use

a variety of stuff, but the single ionics I prefer for most of them except

magnesium because the ioninc is mag oxide based and I prefer Mag glycinate,

oxide type can cause loose stools. I may take a trip to London next year and get

some testing done at Biolabs, there a Dr that owes me a favour so he'll order

them for me, shame he's not prepared to read and really help, parent power

rules (and of course lol)

Mandi x

> Again a confusing topic for me now do you suggest i do some test before

> starting them! or is it best to understand about it more as i do not want

> to start

> any thing which i cant monitor v carefully like you said best under

> supervision! are you doing it yourself well might give me some courage!!!

>

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the kirkmans molybdenum is good. @115 lbs i take 100 to 300mcg a day,

if you divide by weight i don't think you can go wrong on on 1 mcg/lb

to start.

> Thanks Mandi

>

> Again a confusing topic for me now do you suggest i do some test

before

> starting them! or is it best to understand about it more as i do

not want to start

> any thing which i cant monitor v carefully like you said best under

> supervision! are you doing it yourself well might give me some

courage!!!

> but it is some thing i would like to know more prue is posting some

> information on it too!

>

>

> lots of love!

> seema

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 30/12/2003 13:46:16 GMT Standard Time,

Mum231ASD@a...

> writes:

>

>

> > From a Willis post saved ages ago Ref Molybdenum

> > (Seema - I use Inonic from www.metabolics.co.uk)

> >

> > ......Because we tend to undersupply rather than oversupply

Molybdenum, I

> > would like to review these points, and to encourage more of you

look to moly

> >

> > supplementation. Most of our kids are lacking as you will

recognize from the

> >

> > below.

> >

> > Foremost, all who are chelating must supplement Molybdenum unless

a recent

> > testing shows high moly levels (unlikely).

> >

> > Moly does these many necessary things:

> >

> > 1. Supports the adrenals. Most of our kids are lacking adequate

adrenal

> > function because of their high stress life and poor diet.

> >

> > 2. Removes ammonia. If your testing shows high ammonia, or if

your child

> > won't eat protein, then supplement moly and alpha-ketogluterate

and other

> > things proven to detox ammonia.

> >

> > 3. Moly is rarely found in high ranges, but a copper deficiency

will tend to

> >

> > high moly readings.

> >

> > 4. Moly enhances sulfite oxidase activity potentially enhancing

conversion

> > of

> >

> > harmful sulfite to necessary sulfate to aid the Phase II detox

pathway.

> >

> > 5. It supports the liver and, with taurine and glycine, aids bile

production

> >

> > thus protecting against gall stones and improving digestion of

fats. So if

> > the stool is light and taurine and glycine doesn't darken it, try

moly

> > additionally.

> >

> > 6. Acetylaldehyde is a deadly toxic excretion from candida, and

it requires

> > aldehyde oxidase to break it down and excrete it. This enzyme

requires

> > molybdenum. If you are fighting candida, supplement moly.

> >

> > 7. Mercury, MSM, oral sulfate intake, and copper tend to deplete

moly, so do

> >

> > supplement under these conditions.

> >

> > 8. Our Dear children are poisoned by many things, including

tungsten. If you

> >

> > have high tungsten readings, this will inhibit action of moly and

of

> > moly-based enzymes, tending to excess moly readings.

> >

> > When supplementing, remember it doesn't take much, and more than

500 mcg

> > daily will chelate copper, possibly precipitating a copper

deficiency. Two

> > hundred or three hundred mcg is likely enough for a child, but it

absorbs

> > poorly, so adults may need 1000 mcg twice a day for up to 4-

months to

> > overcome an aversion to sulfur foods. Children may need more

under those

> > conditions, but higher amounts should be used only under the

careful eye of

> > the doctor.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hi Pyue

> > > Where can you buy Molybdenum and can you give some information

on this

> > > please! any website ??

> > > thanks in advance!

> > > seema

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Info from Kirkman's Web site:

Molybdenum is considered a trace mineral. Doctors are finding that trace

minerals can be important for proper nutrition. Molybdenum is one of the

most important of these compounds.

Molybdenum is a component of several enzymes and also plays an important

role in sulfur metabolism. As a result, high sulfur intake may lower

molybdenum levels. Low molybdenum can then in turn cause allergic reactions

to sulfites.

Molybdenum supplementation may well play an extremely important role in

balancing copper/zinc ratios which have been addressed in detail by Dr.

Walsh of the Pfeiffer Treatment Center in Naperville, Illinois.

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/molybdenum/Molybdenum_C_100_Spec244\

..html

At 11:53 PM 7/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>I just read the list of suggested supps. and one was molybdenum. I've

>never heard of it. What is it?

>

>Diane

>

>

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That's very good information.

Just for fun if you want to learn the proper way to pronounce molybdenum click

here:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?molybd03.wav=molybdenum

(I can't help but snicker to myself when I hear the way some doctors botch it)

Re: [ ] Molybdenum

Info from Kirkman's Web site:

Molybdenum is considered a trace mineral. Doctors are finding that trace

minerals can be important for proper nutrition. Molybdenum is one of the

most important of these compounds.

Molybdenum is a component of several enzymes and also plays an important

role in sulfur metabolism. As a result, high sulfur intake may lower

molybdenum levels. Low molybdenum can then in turn cause allergic reactions

to sulfites.

Molybdenum supplementation may well play an extremely important role in

balancing copper/zinc ratios which have been addressed in detail by Dr.

Walsh of the Pfeiffer Treatment Center in Naperville, Illinois.

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/molybdenum/Molybdenum_C_100_Spec244\

..html

At 11:53 PM 7/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>I just read the list of suggested supps. and one was molybdenum. I've

>never heard of it. What is it?

>

>Diane

>

>

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part of taking supplements is developing the skill to read the effect

and i think you are starting to develop that.

its not simply any one mineral but the *synergy* of them.

molybdenum heps restore some of the sulphur chemistry destroyed by

the amalgams, copper sebacate helps mood and the zinc will be doing a

lot of things

BUT

you have to have SELENIUM

or you risk mobilsed mercury doing more damage as your system starts

to excrete heavy metals.

> hello all ! and andrew (if u read this) !

>

>

> i'm posting this , because again i'm experiencing changes and it

made me a

> bit afraid...

>

> now i did it like how i read about it as on adrews page..and like i

posted

> it today...

>

> yesterday evening i took 1 capsule molybdenum, after it i felt

strange,

> quietly and good, but i was just sitting at my window enjoying

summer...

> and reading some of the vitamin stuff on the web

>

> today i did it again to see what i gave me for effect...after my

work i took

> the mlybdenum, i also took today 1/4 capsule copper seb and 1/4

orthozinc,

> not much

>

> i had the same feeling as yesterday with the difference today i

went outside

> drinking something with my sister again enjoying the good weather

on a

> terrace.. my reactions were really strange..

>

> i felt much better in my body...weird maybe to say this, more

connected, my

> moves were more slowly , i was really quiet, my sister noticed it

and was a

> bit happy that i listened so good... when i took something from the

table it

> was in controlled manner, not adhd-manner

>

> that was the good side...

> socially, with my sister i could listen good, but other people i

wanted to

> get away, i was a bit paranoia... i couldn't talk very good...

> with my siter it was relaxed but too relaxed i think...

>

> i was wondering if this is a kinf of placebo effect...mentally or

that it is

> really possible to feel such a change because of molybdenum..

>

> and is this a good or bad effect ?

>

> it so strange to see urself evolve and being kind of autistic at

the same

> time, when u're autistic u have to know things, when something

changes in my

> mind i get afraid..of doing things wrong... or right but then i

have to

> adjust..

>

> any other experiences with this ?

> i think i read andrews page good now and i started slowly...so i

dunno what

> to think now... or is it really better to don't take any vitamins

until

> amalgan removal... i know with chelation it can get much worse if

they're

> still there...but vitamin supplementation isn't really chelation i

thought,

> but a natural removal ?

>

> thanks anyway !

> willem.

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thx andrew, gonna buy selenium this weekend... have to check ur site still

for the good form...i took selenium for 2 months a while ago...gonna start

again...

greetz !

oh, one thing more about the b-vitamins, i read a lot of times that most b

vitamines are urinated out when to luch, so that it' isn't harmfull although

not all..

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the trouble is if you take anything in excess like b vitmains they

run out the co-facotors creating subtle deficencies. that can't be

true about the excess being excreted with b's or there never would

have been the b6 toxicty issues from people trying to lose weight

when it was the fashion about 15 ? years ago?

so you just take a minimium

in fact i am getting my b vits from australian possum liver now and

its like day and night compared to the supplement b's

the selenium has to be the right forms as per my web page, with

amalgmas you really need both as per my web page.

> thx andrew, gonna buy selenium this weekend... have to check ur

site still

> for the good form...i took selenium for 2 months a while

ago...gonna start

> again...

>

> greetz !

>

> oh, one thing more about the b-vitamins, i read a lot of times that

most b

> vitamines are urinated out when to luch, so that it' isn't harmfull

although

> not all..

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> what is molybdenum?

It is a chemical element, a transition metal, a chemical relative

(cogener) of tungsten, and it is an essential trace mineral in

nutrition. it is involved in the function of the enzymes sulfite

oxidase, aldehyde oxidase and xanthine oxidase.

Andy. .

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Thank you Andy for the information.

>

> > what is molybdenum?

>

> It is a chemical element, a transition metal, a chemical relative

> (cogener) of tungsten, and it is an essential trace mineral in

> nutrition. it is involved in the function of the enzymes sulfite

> oxidase, aldehyde oxidase and xanthine oxidase.

>

> Andy. .

>

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I have done a test for heavy metals and it showed among other things that I

am low in Molybdenum. what is the significance of that -- Does anyone know

thanks Laurie

**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

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Here is some excellent info.

http://www.mall-net.com/cooter/moly.html

http://www.candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml

hope this helps.

Ronni

>

> I have done a test for heavy metals and it showed among other

things that I

> am low in Molybdenum. what is the significance of that -- Does

anyone know

> thanks Laurie

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL

Living.

> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-

campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>

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from Wikipedia: Molybdenum (pronounced /m & #601; & #712;l & #618;bd & #601;n & #601;m/,

from the Greek

meaning " lead-like " ), is a Group 6 chemical element with the symbol

Mo and atomic number 42. It has the sixth-highest melting point of

any element, and for this reason it is often used in high-strength

steel alloys. Molybdenum is found in trace amounts in plants and

animals, although excess molybdenum can be toxic in some animals.

Sulfite is neurotoxic. The SUOX enzyme uses Molybdenum to convert

sulfite into the less toxic sulfate. To stimulate SUOX, my

cardiologist uses Molybdenum 3 drops 2 times a day, Vitamin E

succinate 400 IU/day and hydroxy-B12 2000 mcg per day.

http://www.heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm

>

> I just read the list of suggested supps. and one was molybdenum.

I've never heard of it. What is it?

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> Diane

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