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live simply said

By increasing our Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio,

> we help our bodies fight inflammation in a host of ways.. I try to

> take as much as I can tolerate..>>>

can you anyone confirm if taking just flax sesed oil is alright to get

the omegas we need. Do we need 2 kinds of oil for O-3 and O -6?

I 'm not sure about fish oil cause I am already mercury toxic

amy

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I can't confirm Omega vs. Flaxseed but I know I have read that it helps

reduce inflammation. I use Flaxseed oil capsules and flaxseed grain(found it at

WalMart) on my cereal, yogurt, mix it in muffins, pancakes, etc.

live simply said

By increasing our Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio,

> we help our bodies fight inflammation in a host of ways.. I try to

> take as much as I can tolerate..>>>

can you anyone confirm if taking just flax sesed oil is alright to get

the omegas we need. Do we need 2 kinds of oil for O-3 and O -6?

I 'm not sure about fish oil cause I am already mercury toxic

amy

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Hi Amy!

I hope that this is helpful.. In short, although its not as direct a

method, eating flaxseed oil DOES result in adequate increases in EPA

and DHA in your blood.. (or at least that is how I read the below..

you can read it yourself)

BTW, fish oil is tested for mercury and other common marine

contaminants.. its FAR safer to eat a reputable fish oil supplement

than randomly bought ocean fish..

Some kinds of ocean fish are commonly toxic - for example, eating the

most expensive kind of tuna sashimi seems to be quite dangerous.. its

got more FAR mercury than it should..

:o

However, fish oil is much, much better..

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/3/801

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 88, No. 3, 801-809, September 2008

© 2008 American Society for Nutrition

ORIGINAL RESEARCH COMMUNICATION

Flaxseed oil and fish-oil capsule consumption alters human red blood

cell n–3 fatty acid composition: a multiple-dosing trial comparing 2

sources of n–3 fatty acid1,2,3

Gwendolyn Barceló-Coblijn, J , Rgia Othman, Mohammed H

Moghadasian, Tarek Kashour and K Friel

1 From the Departments of Pharmacology, Physiology, and Therapeutics

(GB-C and EM) and Chemistry (EJM), University of North Dakota, Grand

Forks, ND, and the Departments of Human Nutritional Sciences (MHM, RO,

and JKF) and of Medicine and Biochemistry and Medical Genetics (TK),

University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

Background: An increase in plasma n–3 fatty acid content, particularly

eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n–3; EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid

(22:6n–3; DHA), is observed after consumption of fish oil–enriched

supplements. Because {alpha}-linolenic acid (18:3n–3; ALA) is the

direct precursor of EPA and DHA, ALA-enriched supplements such as flax

may have a similar effect, although this hypothesis has been

challenged because of reported low conversion of ALA into DHA.

Objective: To address this question, we designed a clinical trial in

which flax oil, fish-oil, and sunflower oil (placebo group) capsules

were given to firefighters (n = 62), a group traditionally exposed to

cardiovascular disease risk factors.

Design: Firefighters were randomly divided into 6 experimental groups

receiving 1.2, 2.4, or 3.6 g flax oil/d; 0.6 or 1.2 g fish oil/d; or 1

g sunflower oil/d for 12 wk. Blood was drawn every 2 wk, and the total

phospholipid fatty acid composition of red blood cells was determined.

Results: As expected, fish oil produced a rapid increase in

erythrocyte DHA and total n–3 fatty acids. The consumption of either

2.4 or 3.6 g flax oil/d (in capsules) was sufficient to significantly

increase erythrocyte total phospholipid ALA, EPA, and docosapentaenoic

acid (22:5n–3) fatty acid content. There were no differences among

groups in plasma inflammatory markers or lipid profile.

Conclusions: The consumption of ALA-enriched supplements for 12 wk was

sufficient to elevate erythrocyte EPA and docosapentaeoic acid

content, which shows the effectiveness of ALA conversion and accretion

into erythrocytes. The amounts of ALA required to obtain these effects

are amounts that are easily achieved in the general population by

dietary modification.

Also, this looked relevant. Not as positive about flaxseed oil, though..

:(

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/1222 (full text is

available at this URL, not just abstract)

Also, this is about heart disease specifically...

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 85, No. 5, 1222-1228, May 2007

Effects of fish-oil supplementation on myocardial fatty acids in humans1,2,3

G Metcalf, J , A Gibson, RM ,

Stubberfield, Stuklis, Kurt -Thomson, Glenn D Young

and G Cleland

1 From the Rheumatology Unit (RGM, MJJ, and LGC), the Cardiothoracic

Surgery Unit (JRME, JS, and RS), and the Cardiovascular Research

Centre (GDY and KR-T), Royal Adelaide Hospital, Adelaide, Australia;

the School of Agriculture Food and Wine (RAG) and the School of

Medicine (MJJ, LGC, and GDY), University of Adelaide, Adelaide,

Australia; and the Hanson Institute, Adelaide, Australia (MJJ and LGC)

2 Supported by grants from the National Heart Foundation of Australia,

Cardiovascular Lipids Research Grant (Pfizer Australia to GDY),

University of Adelaide, and the Royal Adelaide Hospital Research

Committee. The fish oil was kindly supplied by Berg LipidTech

(Aalesund, Norway).

3 Reprints not available. Address correspondence to RG Metcalf,

Rheumatology Unit, Level 4 Eleanor Harrald Building, Royal Adelaide

Hospital, North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000, Australia. E-mail:

rmetcalf@....

Background: Increased fish or fish-oil consumption is associated with

reduced risk of cardiac mortality, especially sudden death. This

benefit putatively arises from the incorporation of the long-chain n–3

fatty acids eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)

into cardiomyocyte phospholipids.

Objective: The study examined the kinetics of incorporation of n–3

fatty acids into human myocardial membrane phospholipids during

supplementation with fish oil and {alpha}-linolenic acid–rich flaxseed

oil.

Design: Patients with low self-reported fish intake (<1 fish meal/wk

and no oil supplements) accepted for elective cardiac surgery

involving cardiopulmonary bypass were randomly allocated to 1 of 6

groups: no supplement; fish oil (6 g EPA+DHA/d) for either 7, 14, or

21 d before surgery; flaxseed oil; or olive oil (both 10 mL/d for 21 d

before surgery). Right atrial appendage tissue removed during surgery

and blood collected at enrollment and before surgery were analyzed for

phospholipid fatty acids.

Results: Surgery rescheduling resulted in a range of treatment times

from 7 to 118 d. In the fish-oil-treated subjects, accumulation of EPA

and DHA in the right atrium was curvilinear with time and reached a

maximum at {approx}30 d of treatment and displaced mainly arachidonic

acid. Flaxseed oil supplementation yielded a small increase in atrial

EPA but not DHA, whereas olive oil did not significantly change atrial

n–3 fatty acids.

Conclusion: The results of the present study show that dietary n–3

fatty acids are rapidly incorporated into human myocardial

phospholipids at the expense of arachidonic acid during high-dose

fish-oil supplementation.

Key Words: Fish oils • fatty acids • n–3 fatty acids • dietary fats •

myocardium • humans

Also, looking further, here is an older paper that explains why the

*ratio* is important.. (the n-6 fatty acids can end up *competing with

the omega 3's* -and blocking the positive effects of EPA-)

Linoleate inhibits EPA incorporation from dietary fish-oil supplements

in human subjects

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/55/2/395

*I hope that all of this has been helpful!*

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:57 AM, amydent9 <amydent9@...> wrote:

>

>

> live simply said

> By increasing our Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio,

>> we help our bodies fight inflammation in a host of ways.. I try to

>> take as much as I can tolerate..>>>

>

> can you anyone confirm if taking just flax sesed oil is alright to get

> the omegas we need. Do we need 2 kinds of oil for O-3 and O -6?

>

> I 'm not sure about fish oil cause I am already mercury toxic

>

> amy

>

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