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Hi,

We did keep our dishes and glasses,we have a sanitation setting on the

dishwasher and we ran them through that a couple of times-they haven't

bothered me. As far as pictures, I agree, seal in double plastic bags as

well as important docs. I know it is extremely hard,but you have to get rid

of everything in order to start getting better.

Good Luck,

.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jennyjen93103 <jmv9@...> wrote:

> I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out.

> I am finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really

> afford to replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through

> stuff the other day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus

> pain once again. However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only

> in there for about 3 hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like

> dishes?? can't I just wash them in vinegar? and what about pictures and

> things like that?? can I sell any of my stuff? obviously telling the buyers

> my situation. Help, I just need a little advice on how to handle it so, I

> don't infect my new place. Thank you.

>

>

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Thank you . I appreciate the info.

From: moldsick@...

Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:43:09 -0400

Subject: Re: [] Moving Out

Hi,

We did keep our dishes and glasses,we have a sanitation setting on the

dishwasher and we ran them through that a couple of times-they haven't

bothered me. As far as pictures, I agree, seal in double plastic bags as

well as important docs. I know it is extremely hard,but you have to get rid

of everything in order to start getting better.

Good Luck,

.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jennyjen93103 <jmv9@...> wrote:

> I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out.

> I am finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really

> afford to replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through

> stuff the other day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus

> pain once again. However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only

> in there for about 3 hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like

> dishes?? can't I just wash them in vinegar? and what about pictures and

> things like that?? can I sell any of my stuff? obviously telling the buyers

> my situation. Help, I just need a little advice on how to handle it so, I

> don't infect my new place. Thank you.

>

>

>

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I really appreciate all of your input. This message board is a god send. Thanks!

From: barb1283@...

Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:22:15 +0000

Subject: [] Re: Moving Out

A mold research suggests ammonia. If you can't tolerate, maybe a friend can do

it, to wash things or wipe things down with, or spray/mist item with. You could

try it and see if you don't react to item. He did research with tricothecenes.

It may be that different toxins are neutralized by different substances. Have

copies made of pictures and seal important documents in plastic.

>

> I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out. I am

finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really afford to

replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through stuff the other

day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus pain once again.

However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only in there for about 3

hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like dishes?? can't I just wash them

in vinegar? and what about pictures and things like that?? can I sell any of my

stuff? obviously telling the buyers my situation. Help, I just need a little

advice on how to handle it so, I don't infect my new place. Thank you.

>

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I agree with wendy on this one. I will add though, after sealing them up in

double bags, dont store them in your new home, not in any living area anyway.

More importantly, never open them up to get anything anywhere near your new

living place. the microtoxins will disperse as soon as a bag is opened. Plus

when I did this outside I instantly could tell it was still on the papers

because my hands and arms began to itch again and my nose began to run. so keep

that in mind.

 

Just remember the nonsence you are going through now and decide wether or not

doing it all over again is worth whatever it is that seems hard to part with.

That should clear any hard feelings right up.

 

Good luck in your new place.

Chris...

    

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

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> I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out.

> I am finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really

> afford to replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through

> stuff the other day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus

> pain once again. However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only

> in there for about 3 hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like

> dishes?? can't I just wash them in vinegar? and what about pictures and

> things like that?? can I sell any of my stuff? obviously telling the buyers

> my situation. Help, I just need a little advice on how to handle it so, I

> don't infect my new place. Thank you.

>

>

>

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> I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out. I am

finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really afford to

replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through stuff the other

day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus pain once again.

However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only in there for about 3

hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like dishes?? can't I just wash them

in vinegar? and what about pictures and things like that?? can I sell any of my

stuff? obviously telling the buyers my situation. Help, I just need a little

advice on how to handle it so, I don't infect my new place. Thank you.

>

A mold researcher recommends wearing personal protective equipment (PPE)

including disposable Tyvek suits, gloves, respirator, eye goggles or safety

glasses, and using cotton balls to plug and protect the ear canal are reasonable

measures to take when cleaning or removing mold. The best way to know what

level of protection you should take is to have appropriate sampling conducted by

a professional.

Beware of outdated advice found in some books and websites about toxic mold. An

example, " Many of the areas will be relatively small...and you can disinfect the

area with bleach. " Using bleach or is not only bad advice, it can make the

problem much worse.

The good news is that there is scientific evidence that proves that a safe,

non-toxic proprietary blend of therapeutic grade essential oils destroys toxic

mold and keeps it from coming back. This blend is known to be beneficial and

supportive of health and well-being.

If you'd like more information about how to safely clean porous surfaces, please

contact me offline.

Faye

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Faye, good advise about the protective wear. Do you have any information you

can link here to scientific info on essential oils? I have been impressed with

the strength of essential oils. They have strong anti inflamatory action

internally.

>> >

> The good news is that there is scientific evidence that proves that a safe,

non-toxic proprietary blend of therapeutic grade essential oils destroys toxic

mold and keeps it from coming back. This blend is known to be beneficial and

supportive of health and well-being.

>

> If you'd like more information about how to safely clean porous surfaces,

please contact me offline.

>

> Faye

>

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> > I am finally getting ready to move out of my place and am stressing out. I

am finding it so hard to let go of my things. I am poor and can't really afford

to replace everything right away. I went in there to sort through stuff the

other day and ended up getting debilitating headaches and sinus pain once again.

However, this time I had joint and muscle pains. I was only in there for about 3

hours!! Is there any way to salvage things like dishes?? can't I just wash them

in vinegar? and what about pictures and things like that?? can I sell any of my

stuff? obviously telling the buyers my situation. Help, I just need a little

advice on how to handle it so, I don't infect my new place. Thank you.

> >

> A mold researcher recommends wearing personal protective equipment (PPE)

including disposable Tyvek suits, gloves, respirator, eye goggles or safety

glasses, and using cotton balls to plug and protect the ear canal are reasonable

measures to take when cleaning or removing mold. The best way to know what

level of protection you should take is to have appropriate sampling conducted by

a professional.

>

> Beware of outdated advice found in some books and websites about toxic mold.

An example, " Many of the areas will be relatively small...and you can disinfect

the area with bleach. " Using bleach or is not only bad advice, it can make the

problem much worse.

>

> The good news is that there is scientific evidence that proves that a safe,

non-toxic proprietary blend of therapeutic grade essential oils destroys toxic

mold and keeps it from coming back. This blend is known to be beneficial and

supportive of health and well-being.

>

> If you'd like more information about how to safely clean porous surfaces,

please contact me offline.

>

> Faye

>

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It really depends on your sensitivities, a friend took a framed picture I

loved and had it reframed, I was so excited to have it again,unfortunately

when she handed it back to me I had an immediate reaction. It doesn't matter

if you can see it or not, the mycotoxins that have made you so ill are

microscopic (at least that is what our hygeniest told me) please correct me

someone if I am wrong-I am no scientist!! Paper is especially bad as well

as fabric-so *even if you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there*.

I would be very cautious about keeing any blankets etc, bleach and vinegar

don't kill the toxins.

Good Luck,

.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:03 AM, surellabaer <surellabaer@...> wrote:

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> >Speaking kind of unscientifically-I think you can save some of your

> dishes. When I emptied my basement there was tons of stuff that broke my

> heart to throw out. I put on heavy duty protective face masks (on eyes and

> mouth) and tried to save some stuff. Here is what I managed to save: Some

> handmade baby blankets washed up perfectly clean! I washed them in bleach

> first them vinegar then a regular cycle with soap. I was amazed and

> surprised but I saved them.

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> > >Speaking kind of unscientifically-I think you can save some of your

> > dishes. When I emptied my basement there was tons of stuff that broke my

> > heart to throw out. I put on heavy duty protective face masks (on eyes and

> > mouth) and tried to save some stuff. Here is what I managed to save: Some

> > handmade baby blankets washed up perfectly clean! I washed them in bleach

> > first them vinegar then a regular cycle with soap. I was amazed and

> > surprised but I saved them.

>

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