Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 > Anyone know? > > The descriptions leave me a little unsure of things. The > grapefruit is not pink but bright pink? <snipped> Must mean its radioactive, Adam!! :-) :-) Be well, Marcia Elston Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence, est. 1988 http://www.wingedseed.com Online 3/95 http://www.aromaconnection.org Group Blog 2/07 " Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide and slavery - have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. " Zinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 --- Adam Gottschalk <adam@...> wrote: > The descriptions leave me a little unsure of things. > The grapefruit > is not pink but bright pink? Hmmm. Half an ounce for > $190 seems like > a bargain if it's real. ************************************************* Hi Adam and all I think it might be that Enlish is not the native language of their copywriter. Or perhaps they translated the website using one of those free on-line translator things. If you look over their website it's full of really strange product descriptions, such as: " pink and glorious and lemon-rose full " " 6 oz. burn time: 45-50 hours scent: vast. simple and clean " " generously mist, to anti-oxidize, revive and replenish open skin’s glow " " warmly glow fill the palms with lush oil warm the body to an enhanced vibrance " " softly buff, to nourish and soften an extra-softening act that feels unusually marvelous " " join us for a tea, a mate tasting, an experience, a sharing of words. " I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going to pass on the " mate tasting " . Cheers! Patty ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Adam & All, Greetings!! I was just in Barney's here in Chicago last Saturday. I usually try to see what is new in the fragrance department, but was in a bit of a hurry. I will stop by and see if they happen to have the line. Do you want me to get you some samples if they have any? I don't know where you are from, perhaps you have a Barney's? I would be happy to if you wish (and of course if they have samples). I went to Bloomingdale's and got a sample of Chanel # 5, to refresh my scent memory, and got loaded down with a bunch of Cartier samples also(just to study). At Barney's they usually push new lines of fragrance etc. when they get them. The last time I was there they were pushing Serge Lutens, and some others (not that new). There are a couple small lines I know of like " Abinoam " , she has a nice line, well designed packaging, logo etc. I'm not sure if it is all pure natural, I have to read more on the web site. Nice web site. It's nice to see these small lines going places. Let me know (if you want samples that is)!!! There may still be hope for " Eau de Rich'e " after all, LOL!!!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Adam & All, I searched a bit and found this info. They have their own store and spa services also in NYC. Info to follow below. I forgot to mention the pink color, do you think it is the bottle? I have a bottle of L'Artisans " Mandarine Tout Simplement " , which came in a bottle and the entire thing looked orange, but what they did was to make the bottom of the bottle orange, and it reflects the color to the entire bottle. Very interesting. The photos of the fragrances would not open up for me on the web site, so I could not see them. Could be an answer? Otherwise I agree it must be radio active, LOL!!!! Rich (see below): thank you for your interest in red flower find us: red flower shop in nolita 13 prince street (between elizabeth and bowery) new york, ny 10012 212.966.5301 or 13prince@... everyday from 12-7 tell us or ask us: customerservice@... join our mailing list and hear about events and special oppurtunities: customerservice@... wholesale inquiries: taketime@... call us: 212.966.1994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 bluelasso2002 <bluelasso2002@...> wrote: > : > > " Petal Power: Red Flower originator Yael Alkalay ...... Hi Adam, I've also read about this woman, in Conde Nast Traveler - don't remember the date though maybe last year. She's Massachusetts born and was the creative director of Shiseido according to the article, before creating Red Flower. Hope that helps! . Hi This makes sense as the whole packaging is very slick and sophisticated as also the marketing. http://www.redflower.com... the $186 are for the perfume concentrates and they offer roll ons for $48..... I took a look to see if the pink grapefruit had hibiscus petals which may have caused the extra redness in the perfume but it has elemi and something else . Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Hi This makes sense as the whole packaging is very slick and sophisticated as also the marketing. http://www.redflower.com... the $186 are for the perfume concentrates and they offer roll ons for $48..... I took a look to see if the pink grapefruit had hibiscus petals which may have caused the extra redness in the perfume but it has elemi and something else . Every good wish, Janita On closer inspection it appears they are doing mixed media.... as their scents include lily of the valley.... honeysuckle etc which points to synths....... Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Janita wrote: > Hi > This makes sense as the whole packaging is very slick and sophisticated as also the marketing. > http://www.redflower.com... the $186 are for the perfume concentrates and they offer roll ons for $48..... I took a look to see if the pink grapefruit had hibiscus petals which may have caused the extra redness in the perfume but it has elemi and something else . > > > Every good wish, Janita > > > On closer inspection it appears they are doing mixed media.... as their scents include lily of the valley.... honeysuckle etc which points to synths....... > Hi Janita, everyone: I saw their website a month or so ago, probably followed from a link. I agree, they use synths. I must admit the new term " mixed media " really doesn't sit well with me. (I don't think the cited perfumer uses it.) It's a deceitful, fudging way of saying " synths " . I first saw it pop up a few months ago and I've been unhappy with it ever since. Sorry for the bit of a rant, but so many perfumers are trying to make it seem they are natural perfumers for marketing reasons, then we find out this sort of thing. To me, mixed media is for visual art, not that it is to be confined to that, I'm not saying there's a " rule " . I just don't see it as being helpful in NP or those who pretend to be NP'ers. It's just another term to add to the confusion. -- Sincerely, Anya Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes, consultation Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com 1400 member Natural Perfumery group - / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:01 PM, chirichie2004 wrote: > Let me know (if you want samples that is)!!! There may still be > hope for " Eau de Rich'e " after all, LOL!!!! > > Rich Given its uncertain provenance, I think I'll pass. Thank you very much for the offer though. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 > > > Every good wish, Janita > > > On closer inspection it appears they are doing mixed media.... as their scents include lily of the valley.... honeysuckle etc which points to synths....... > Hi Janita, everyone: I saw their website a month or so ago, probably followed from a link. I agree, they use synths. I must admit the new term " mixed media " really doesn't sit well with me. (I don't think the cited perfumer uses it.) >> no Anya they didn't .... something that came up in the last 48 hours... and I can see how it wouldn't sit well although as art and perfume are continually cited together I can see how and why it is used in the place I saw it... . I first saw it pop up a few months ago and I've been unhappy with it ever since. Sorry for the bit of a rant, but so many perfumers are trying to make it seem they are natural perfumers for marketing reasons, then we find out this sort of thin >>> not a rant but a real concern..... it seems to be slipping in here there and everywhere. To me, mixed media is for visual art, not that it is to be confined to that, I'm not saying there's a " rule " . I just don't see it as being helpful in NP or those who pretend to be NP'ers. It's just another term to add to the confusion. >>> can perfectly understand and 100% agree about this problem that is beginning to show itself with marketing techniques umbrellaing naturals and then sneaking in the odd synth or two and believing it to be OK>... well of course it isn't!! I personally, don't have a problem with the term mixed media because to me it is just that ....mixing it up ie as Art or textile... acrylic with oil... goache with water colour..felt with silk etc. it is a clear term.... so in perfume it immediately say to me natural with synth. But Natural Perfume is what it is and shouldn't be confused with these other marketing slickers using the natural as a screen to slip in cheaper synthetics.. I totally agree, Anya.... and it may just be the smokescreen or fudging these ruthless business people are trying to use .... using us and naturals to promote their nasty synthetic infused perfumes.behind the mask.. Synth is a synth is a synth.......... give me my beautiful naturals anyday.... and we can market just as beautifully ...... Off to relax now after a long day... & :-D -- Sincerely, Anya Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes, consultation Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com 1400 member Natural Perfumery group - / Natural Perfumery is the biggest, friendliest group with fantastic archives, files and links -- like an education, for free, with your best friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 > > The descriptions leave me a little unsure of things. The grapefruit > is not pink but bright pink? Hmmm. Half an ounce for $190 seems like > a bargain if it's real. > I purchased a bottle of red flower thai honeysuckle lotion in 2001 at Blue Mercury when i used to live in Washington DC. Looking at the redflower website today, they don't offer the lotions anymore. I'm positive that lotion had synthetic fragrances in it. However, the descriptions of their organic perfumes seem authentically all natural to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 > The descriptions leave me a little unsure of things. The grapefruit > is not pink but bright pink? Hmmm. Half an ounce for $190 seems like > a bargain if it's real. > Just a brief note: The " bright pink " most likely has nothing to do with the type of grapefruit. It's just a marketing gimmick to make the pink grapefruit sound exciting, juicy, and more attractive to the consumer. Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 > > My mother sent me a magazine clipping, as she often does, about > perfume. Don't know what mag it's from, but I wonder if anyone is > familiar with the perfumer or products in question. I'll transcribe > the whole blurb: > > " Petal Power: Red Flower originator Yael Alkalay captures nature at > its best in her new trio of botanical blends. The USDA-certified- > organic fragrances (15 ml, $186) contain no petrochemicals or > synthetics--just unadulterated distillations of flowers, fruit, bark, > and herbs. [Three bottles pictured] From left: Ambrette, a musky > rendition off rose, bitter orange, patchouli, and clove; Guaiac, > containing notes from the guaiacum tree, spiked with bright-pink > grapefruit; and Champa, a floral delight of jasmine, rose, and ylang > ylang. At Barneys New York stores; redflower.com. " > > The descriptions leave me a little unsure of things. The grapefruit > is not pink but bright pink? Hmmm. Half an ounce for $190 seems like > a bargain if it's real. > Me again ~ I should have combined this with my other post! Oh well. If you look at the red flower website, their regular scents are separate from the organic perfumes. The perfumes may well be all natural and synth-free, but they carry no guarantee with their other products. So, slightly deceitful, in a " we didn't lie, we just didn't tell the whole truth " kind of way. But no worse than any other marketing ploys we are exposed to every day -- they're just in to make some money like any business. They are using " natural " to sell themselves to the public. It appears that red flower is not a small business, and therefore we can't expect the same kind of personal attention to purity as you or I would give.... and I'm certain that they don't care in the slightest if their products are natural. But that doesn't matter, since we all have the power to choose not to buy from them=) Best wishes, Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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