help with endless cross contamination

[Guest guest]

I'm the woman who went into a moldy house, then drove home and ended up

cross contaminating my house, cars, belongings, clothes, with

mycotoxins. We vacated our house and are living with our baby in a

hotel room. My husband unfortunately had to keep going to his office

of course to work and although he stripped in the lobby restroom,

dunked in the pool, showered and put on fresh clothes before seeing us,

somehow he ended up contaminating the room and the car we were

borrowing. We're about to switch rooms but people gave us some clothes

to wear - it's all we have - and I wonder how to be sure I'm not also

bringing anything that is contaminated into the next room. But the

headache (terrible top of the head crushing ache and throbbing above

right eye) is so bad I can't differentiate anything. How to do this?

Also - he still has to come and go -- what else can he do to not cross

contaminate us again?

We're all so sick and exhausted I'm kinda at the end of my rope. I

have no energy left, and friends already helped us with the first

round. We can't see a way out if the crosses happen this easily.

Oh and it's definitely a cross contamination because I got a separate

hotel room the other night to test that out and I felt fine in

there...so it's our room/stuff/my husband?

We really need help to stop this and don't know what to do

anymore...we've already continually changed rooms and started fresh a

few times. We can't live like this. He can't quit his job. He also

has no other transportation but one of the contaminated cars so it has

to be a way he can decontaminate before seeing us...or we just can't

see him anymore? But this is his baby, and she needs him...and I need

him...

Jill

[Guest guest]

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Jill: I know EXACTLY what you are going through. I am in a hotel room

and have been here for three years because I kept contaminating

everything I owned, rented, and drove. (and loved) Got rid of it all

and I only own a few pieces of clothing. Nothing else. One thing that

comes to my mind, does your husband have long or thick hair?? After

MUCH research on mycotoxin contamination, one thing I learned

recently that never came to my mind is that your hair carries many

mycotoxins because it is so porous. (dont know if I spelled that

right). Before I knew about cross-contamination I was getting re-

exposed from my two golden retrievers when my son brought them to

visit me. We would wash them, but of course we now know how difficult

it is to wash out mycotoxins. (may be impossible) I have actually met

a woman and her children that had all shaved their heads to avoid

this. I am not suggesting that, but that is how desperate some of us

are to rid ourselves of it. It sounds like you are doing everything

right with your husband changing and showering, so I just wanted to

pass that along about his hair. I reacted to my son one day and he

finally told me that he had not washed his hair in the shower, only

wet it. Some brands of dandruff shampoo have antifungals in them,

which is even better. So, just wanted to pass this along, hope it

helps in some way. Also many vehicles themselves are full of

mycotoxins in the AC/heat vents. I cannot tolerate any vehicle at the

moment. I know where you are at, I am still there myself. Take

care,dont give up hope because thats all we have... Diane

In , Jsverdlove@... wrote:

>

> I'm the woman who went into a moldy house, then drove home and

ended up

> cross contaminating my house, cars, belongings, clothes, with

> mycotoxins.

[Guest guest]

Four suggestions:

 

(1) Tell hubby to skip the dip in the hotel pool. Reason: Most of us who have

experienced, or ARE experiencing, mold reaction, ALSO begin having Multiple

Chemical Sensitivity (MCS). One of the most irritating, and headache provoking

chemicals, is CHLORINE, which is put into ALL swimming pools. Tell him to go

straight to the shower, at the hotel's swimming facility. If the facility does

NOT have a shower, do # (2).

 

(2) When a person checks out of a hotel and checks their baggage in a hotel's

lobby baggage check room, and returns later in the day to pick up their checked

baggage, most hotels will allow the person to use the shower, in an unoccupied

room, if the person says they will leave a tip for the cleaning staff, for the

re-cleaning of the bathroom. If you explain your health problem, requiring this

hotel courtesy, to the hotel manager, you might find him/her to be more

receptive to your unusual needs, than most doctor's would be. After all, the

hotel manager is a " human being " . The doctor is GOD.

 

(3) Make sure you are in a " NO SMOKING " room. Most hotels have these special

rooms available for people with smoke allergies. There is usually a small sign

on the door to these rooms, indicating their " no smoking " status. Don't assume

that just because you can't smell the smoke, that their isn't enough residual

smoke to cause some of your symptoms. 

 

(4) Make sure that your hotel has central heating and air conditioning. There

have been many discussions, on this board, about how hotel window air

conditioners can be " mold farms " sometimes. Just because the window air

conditioner has not been turned on for a few months, doesn't mean that it is not

putting mycotoxins into the room, whenever an outside breeze blows through it,

or that the carpeting underneath the air conditioner is not growing mold from

water that has dripped on it, during the summer months.

 

In general, I would more easily suspect your illness being caused by a NEW

unhealthy environment that you move in to, rather than the relatively few mold

spores and mycotoxins that you are BRINGING INTO your new environment, FROM your

old enviroment. The exception to this generalization, is mold spores/mycotoxins

in someone's hair, when you put your nose into their hair, while in bed

together.

 

Another exception to this generalization, is YOUR CAR, if, in fact, it is a

source of mold/mycotoxins. Try to " trade down " your car, for a smaller, older,

crappier car, that is, at least, mold free.

 

Good Luck and good health,

Joe

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joe.

I do have MCS and have had it since my initial mold poisoning in 2002.

This is a " green " hotel, they use bromine in the pool (albeit it's

still bad) but I'm really good at differentiating my particular

mycotoxin reaction. I can tell when I'm reacting to the current

problem as it's such a specific reaction...so I literally can " feel " a

difference when I'm in the hotel around other " stuff " or exposed to my

husband, the car, or his clothes. It's very clear to me especially

since living so long with MCS and having been through a previous

mycotoxin contamination.

It's a bad loop we're in because my husband's office is contaminated,

so even if we start fresh, we're still dealing with that constant

contamination.

Today he's going to fog the house with a GSE solution and a

professional fogger machine. We've thrown out almost all the clothes

except what he has to wear in the car to work since that gets

contaminated anyway. I have to leave the hotel this weekend since they

are overbooked for a convention and will have to test the condo then,

after the spraying. Wish us luck as this is our last hope and it has

to work...

I also will go back on my gluathione IVs, which I stopped b/c I'm

breastfeeding...

Thanks

Jill

Re: Help with endless Cross Contamination

Four suggestions:

 

(1) Tell hubby to skip the dip in the hotel pool. Reason: Most of us

who have experienced, or ARE experiencing, mold reaction, ALSO begin

having Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS). One of the most irritating,

and headache provoking chemicals, is CHLORINE, which is put into ALL

swimming pools. Tell him to go straight to the shower, at the hotel's

swimming facility. If the facility does NOT have a shower, do # (2).

 

(2) When a person checks out of a hotel and checks their baggage in a

hotel's lobby baggage check room, and returns later in the day to pick

up their checked baggage, most hotels will allow the person to use the

shower, in an unoccupied room, if the person says they will leave a tip

for the cleaning staff, for the re-cleaning of the bathroom. If you

explain your health problem, requiring this hotel courtesy, to the

hotel manager, you might find him/her to be more receptive to your

unusual needs, than most doctor's would be. After all, the hotel

manager is a " human being " . The doctor is GOD.

 

(3) Make sure you are in a " NO SMOKING " room. Most hotels have these

special rooms available for people with smoke allergies. There is

usually a small sign on the door to these rooms, indicating their " no

smoking " status. Don't assume that just because you can't smell the

smoke, that their isn't

enough residual smoke to cause some of your

symptoms. 

 

(4) Make sure that your hotel has central heating and air conditioning.

There have been many discussions, on this board, about how hotel window

air conditioners can be " mold farms " sometimes. Just because the window

air conditioner has not been turned on for a few months, doesn't mean

that it is not putting mycotoxins into the room, whenever an outside

breeze blows through it, or that the carpeting underneath the air

conditioner is not growing mold from water that has dripped on it,

during the summer months.

 

In general, I would more easily suspect your illness being caused by a

NEW unhealthy environment that you move in to, rather than the

relatively few mold spores and mycotoxins that you are BRINGING INTO

your new environment, FROM your old enviroment. The exception to this

generalization, is mold spores/mycotoxins in someone's hair, when you

put your nose into their hair, while in bed together.

 

Another exception to this generalization, is YOUR CAR, if, in fact, it

is a source of mold/mycotoxins. Try to " trade down " your car, for a

smaller, older, crappier car, that is, at least, mold free.

 

Good Luck and good health,

Joe

[Guest guest]

Greetings!

 

As a former hotel manager I would suggest calling them as much in advance as

possible.  Ask them if they can clean as usual and put the room out of order

until you check in. This will assure no one else has a chance to contaminate it

with the usual smoke, perfume, cologne etc.  Then ask if they will change the

air filter on ac unit.  Ask if they have an iodinzer to neutrallize the are and

free it from most irritants. I was a manager of a hotel that serviced several

hospitals in the Denver area, including National Jewish and Childrens.  We had

alotof room orders like that and I have  seen when they were not followed how 

severe it was for the guest.  Also ask that no air freshners or other chemicals

be used when cleaning your room.  I am suprised that I did not get MCS working

in that  business sooner due to the air freshners most hotel chains use!  I

amsure that it has contributed tomy illness.  Also even though it may seem to be

a pain

constantly and I mean constantly keep calling hotel to make sure they are

following the request, onlyt in cases of high volume or sold out does it make 

it hard for  hotel. Boy I sure do miss working I did love my job in

hotels...never a dull moment...now I have this illness and as you all

know...never a dull moment here too.  I hope this helps.   oH AND i WOULD STAY

OUT OF PUBLIC POOLS,  SAUNAS AND HOT TUBS...LAST TIME i DID THAT i GOT A

PARASITE INFECTION...TRICHOMONAS...NOT FUN..  SORRY BOUT CAPS.

 

  

Four suggestions:

 

(1) Tell hubby to skip the dip in the hotel pool.