Re: CSM /toxins and weight

[Guest guest]

I'm reading on this old topic and have some comment regarding weight

loss. I don't think it's a good idea to try to loose weight as a way

to detox because if fat is holding mycos, you could force those

myco's into your bloodstream to recirculated and do damage. I tried

very hard to loose weight and finally did all of a sudden and then

about a year later had signs of cancer on a cyst that was removed and

I always will wonder if severe diet to remove weight that was so

resistent to coming off. Just a theory of mine, nothing I have read

but body may put the weight on in order to hold toxins that if toxins

weren't there, your body would shed the pounds. Just worried about

that now. If you are over eating that is another story but I

wasn't. I couldn't figure out why the weight was coming on, dieted

as I normally did that usually worked and it did not, so out of

desperation to take weight off, I ate less than I felt was healthy

but determined to take it off, so if normal dieting, eating

reasonable amount of food takes it off, may be good idea, healthier

to eat right, etc, but if normal dieting doesn't work, I would wonder

if weight is there for the purpose of holding toxins away from body

organs. However here Live say he does feel he needs to increase CSM

while losing weight, which may be saying the same thing essentially

but you don't want to eliminate that step.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> some mycotoxins like macrocyclic trichothecenes build up in your

fat.

> They are removed from your system very slowly by your liver but the

> rate is slow unless you lose weight. While you are losing weight

I've

> found that you need to take cholestyramine much more.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

What???

I was not trying to imply that losing weight wasn't a good thing (for

me!) when I can do it.

Cholestyramine has also been a godsend for me as far as inflammation..

I think Dr. Shoemaker laid out a good theoretical model in his book

Mold Warriors,

for why people who have been sick from mold for a long time lose their

ability to respond to leptin normally and why that probably causes weight gain.

I think you should ask him (Shoemaker!) about those issues.

He has more practical experience in this stuff than any other doctor.

[Guest guest]

I would very much like to know which and how and when mycotoxins or

other toxins store in fat.. and I've spent a lot of time trying to

find out more about that.

Maybe I don't know the right search terms to use.

And I certainly don't have the knowledge I really need to be doing

this looking..

Does anybody have any suggestions? Search terms?

Models of what happens - there are probably a LOT of things going on.

Lots of variables.

Mycotoxins, persistent in fat especially, if they can, are very scary.

They are serious poisons even at low concentrations,

and there are so many that aren't even known.. clearly..

What they do is almost always bad.

[Guest guest]

As for me talking to Dr Shoemaker about this. No reason as this wasn't

my issue. It was someone else's post you were responding to. Post was

about someone else, old post, old topic but thought you were saying to

lose mycos, good idea to lose weight and wanted to say I think that

isn't good idea as it may release too many mycos. If that wasn't what

you were saying, then I misunderstood your post and that's good you

weren't recommending weight loss as way to lose mycos as it could force

mycos into vital organs away from safe storage in fat cells. I think

when you have mycotoxin illness, the fat is a safeguard until you are

able to get rid of the mycos.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>> I was not trying to imply that losing weight wasn't a good thing (for

> me!) when I can do it.

> Cholestyramine has also been a godsend for me as far as inflammation..

[Guest guest]

Trust your body.. If your body tells you something helps, trust it,

And especially when your body tells you something is hurting you, trust it.