Re: topic from another board Fed Up With Lawyers!

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, this is very common behavior by attorneys in toxic mold cases.

There is just too much corruption in the system. There have been many articles

written about insurance companies bribing judges and juries. This message made

me think about an article I read a few days ago. It talked about how many

Americans are moving to Canada, Germany and Australia and one of the main

reasons is because those governments are less corrupt than ours.

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From: " snk1955@... " <snk1955@...>

Below is the well written rant from another discussion board about another

area of concern over this issue. Goofy lawyers!.... (This is not a personal

comment. My lawyers are good guys.)

But..this is another problem area of this issue.

[Guest guest]

Would you mind sharing what board this came from? I would like to join it.

Also, if you

know of a board where people are Fed Up With Insurance Companies, I would like

to join

that one too.

Thanks

>

>

> Below is the well written rant from another discussion board about another

> area of concern over this issue. Goofy lawyers!....(This is not a personal

> comment. My lawyers are good guys.)

>

> But..this is another problem area of this issue.

>

> Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ours is a double challenge and you can't blame the lawyers. They have

to work " within a standard " - Medical and Legal.

But holding " associations " to task, who draft medical policy which is

" disparate " within workers groups is the way to go. The lawyers can't

jump the hurdles medically and legally, in any easy fashion. It is

made easier when the policy standards are changed. I did not get the

" big picture " until I read the cases and studied the standards.

I read that graduates of the online law schools have to be allowed to

sit for the bar exams. It is a two-pronged attack. Anyone who doubts

the difficulty of the job should watch " A Civil Action " again.

The lawyer lost his firm, his partners left and he was bankrupt. And,

it was only ONE industry, with " predecessors in interest " and this

lawyer stuck it out, in a way that, at the time, left him penniless.

To make it easier to prevail in court, the medical standard, which is

" accepted " has to change, and " holes " have to be punched in

" associations " policy which change the standard to a " false " one

because of " industry and even government influence and denial. "

And, that is political. Maybe that can be changed.

Most of us can understand and appreciate what that poster went through.

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

Yep. It is just like every other aspect to this issue. There are good

lawyers who have not been able to accomplish because of he misinfo in policy.

But

at the same time, there are some who think these cases are going to be a

piece of cake...when they are not, they quit working them...leaving the victim,

victimized again. Wish our lawyers would do more on the policy front. That

letter by an attorney in the IJOEH really had an impact. Too bad there are

not more of those invovled.

In a message dated 2/23/2009 2:31:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

ginloi@... writes:

Ours is a double challenge and you can't blame the lawyers. They have

to work " within a standard " - Medical and Legal.

But holding " associations " to task, who draft medical policy which is

" disparate " within workers groups is the way to go. The lawyers can't

jump the hurdles medically and legally, in any easy fashion. It is

made easier when the policy standards are changed. I did not get the

" big picture " until I read the cases and studied the standards.

I read that graduates of the online law schools have to be allowed to

sit for the bar exams. It is a two-pronged attack. Anyone who doubts

the difficulty of the job should watch " A Civil Action " again.

The lawyer lost his firm, his partners left and he was bankrupt. And,

it was only ONE industry, with " predecessors in interest " and this

lawyer stuck it out, in a way that, at the time, left him penniless.

To make it easier to prevail in court, the medical standard, which is

" accepted " has to change, and " holes " have to be punched in

" associations " policy which change the standard to a " false " one

because of " industry and even government influence and denial. "

And, that is political. Maybe that can be changed.

Most of us can understand and appreciate what that poster went through.

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[Guest guest]

speaking of erin brokavitch, if anyone has contact info. for her,

please e-mail it to me. it's very important.

>

> Ours is a double challenge and you can't blame the lawyers. They

have

> to work " within a standard " - Medical and Legal.

>

> But holding " associations " to task, who draft medical policy which

is

> " disparate " within workers groups is the way to go. The lawyers

can't

> jump the hurdles medically and legally, in any easy fashion. It is

> made easier when the policy standards are changed. I did not get

the

> " big picture " until I read the cases and studied the standards.

>

> I read that graduates of the online law schools have to be allowed

to

> sit for the bar exams. It is a two-pronged attack. Anyone who

doubts

> the difficulty of the job should watch " A Civil Action " again.

>

> The lawyer lost his firm, his partners left and he was bankrupt.

And,

> it was only ONE industry, with " predecessors in interest " and this

> lawyer stuck it out, in a way that, at the time, left him penniless.

>

> To make it easier to prevail in court, the medical standard, which

is

> " accepted " has to change, and " holes " have to be punched in

> " associations " policy which change the standard to a " false " one

> because of " industry and even government influence and denial. "

>

> And, that is political. Maybe that can be changed.

>

> Most of us can understand and appreciate what that poster went

through.

>

[Guest guest]

She has a myspace page. But, she has enough mold problems in her house and a

daughter who is going through rehab. I tried to contact her early on, but no

response.

> >

> > Ours is a double challenge and you can't blame the lawyers. They

> have

> > to work " within a standard " - Medical and Legal.

> >

> > But holding " associations " to task, who draft medical policy which

> is

> > " disparate " within workers groups is the way to go. The lawyers

> can't

> > jump the hurdles medically and legally, in any easy fashion. It is

> > made easier when the policy standards are changed. I did not get

> the

> > " big picture " until I read the cases and studied the standards.

> >

> > I read that graduates of the online law schools have to be allowed

> to

> > sit for the bar exams. It is a two-pronged attack. Anyone who

> doubts

> > the difficulty of the job should watch " A Civil Action " again.

> >

> > The lawyer lost his firm, his partners left and he was bankrupt.

> And,

> > it was only ONE industry, with " predecessors in interest " and this

> > lawyer stuck it out, in a way that, at the time, left him penniless.

> >

> > To make it easier to prevail in court, the medical standard, which

> is

> > " accepted " has to change, and " holes " have to be punched in

> > " associations " policy which change the standard to a " false " one

> > because of " industry and even government influence and denial. "

> >

> > And, that is political. Maybe that can be changed.

> >

> > Most of us can understand and appreciate what that poster went

> through.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The " Civil Action " movie (book) was the one with Travolta about

the cluster of Leukemia cases in Woburn, Mass. And Travolta played Jan

Schlictmann who was the lawyer who lost everything. Travolta did the

legal thing. Brokavich did the " activist " thing for a law firm in

California and it related to hexavalent chromium, if I remember

correctly.

The case in Woburn was a cluster of leukemia cases. One mother whose

son Jimmy was the person who brought the legal action against

W.R. Grace...it was a long, drawn out case. Schlictmann came and

spoke at a local law school about 3 years ago and talked to the

students about the " reality " of trying to do a " Toxic Tort " lawsuit.

He had to completely rebuilt his life. So, before the lawyers get a

smack, and some of them might need one, remember they have TWO hoops

to jump through. The medical one, then, the legal one. They can only

present what YOU the client, give them. The more evidence and tests

you give them the better they can present your case. If might feel

like you are doing the work and you are, but they can only present in

court what you give them to present.

You have to get on the backs of the doctors to diagnose you properly

and keep after them until they do. Or find someone who will. Even if

you go out of state. I did, to keep the " locals " honest. Nothing

like a doctor, who is presented compelling lab testing, when they

should have done it themselves. Nothing like a little person

embarrassment. It is terrible that you have to play that role, and I

did not like it a bit and am on good terms with my doctors, but, I was

up front with telling them that I knew their hands were tied and it

wasn't their fault.

Medicine is now " top down " and insurance-driven. Most of the people I

have met along this mold-experience are pretty tough cookies, and

maybe we are making the path for those shrinking violets who cannot.

A lot of the people I know who would not get involved are dead now.

The didn't chase down the best doctors and they were passive about

their treatment. It is too bad you have to be this " assertive " about

medical treatment, but that is the reality of the situation.

You can see some of what he has had to say on YouTube and clips from

the movie...

> >

> > Ours is a double challenge and you can't blame the lawyers. They

> have

> > to work " within a standard " - Medical and Legal.

> >

> > But holding " associations " to task, who draft medical policy which

> is

> > " disparate " within workers groups is the way to go. The lawyers

> can't

> > jump the hurdles medically and legally, in any easy fashion. It is

> > made easier when the policy standards are changed. I did not get

> the

> > " big picture " until I read the cases and studied the standards.

> >

> > I read that graduates of the online law schools have to be allowed

> to

> > sit for the bar exams. It is a two-pronged attack. Anyone who

> doubts

> > the difficulty of the job should watch " A Civil Action " again.

> >

> > The lawyer lost his firm, his partners left and he was bankrupt.

> And,

> > it was only ONE industry, with " predecessors in interest " and this

> > lawyer stuck it out, in a way that, at the time, left him penniless.

> >

> > To make it easier to prevail in court, the medical standard, which

> is

> > " accepted " has to change, and " holes " have to be punched in

> > " associations " policy which change the standard to a " false " one

> > because of " industry and even government influence and denial. "

> >

> > And, that is political. Maybe that can be changed.

> >

> > Most of us can understand and appreciate what that poster went

> through.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You can get a lot of good information about insurance company behavior at

www.badfaithinsurance.org. There used to be websites called statefarmsucks.com

and statefarmstillsucks.com, but State Farm made them take those sites down.

The insurance companies use their massive computers to do constant robot

searches on the Internet, so I don't think anyone would be able to keep an

anti-insurance industry website going for very long.

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From: semco_semco_semco <semco_semco_semco@...>

Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:43:27 PM

Subject: [] Re: topic from another board " Fed Up With Lawyers! "

Would you mind sharing what board this came from? I would like to join it.

Also, if you

know of a board where people are Fed Up With Insurance Companies, I would like

to join

that one too.

Thanks

>

>

> Below is the well written rant from another discussion board about another

> area of concern over this issue. Goofy lawyers!.... (This is not a personal

> comment. My lawyers are good guys.)

>

> But..this is another problem area of this issue.

>

> Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

>

>

[Guest guest]

She's probably referring to ToxLaw, but I don't have link. Sharon

will probably put a link up when she reads your question but you may

be able to Google it.

> >

> >

> > Below is the well written rant from another discussion board

about another

> > area of concern over this issue. Goofy lawyers!....(This is not

a personal

> > comment. My lawyers are good guys.)

[Guest guest]

This is a subject better off left alone because theres many different

senarios possable here. I haven't came acroos a single lawyer that

would take these cases because they think they are easy and believe

me I've talked to many, most who had a conflict of interest when it

came to going after the insurance co. involved. and really a good

toxic tort lawyer ,from what I've read can apply many of the same

principles and evidence of almost all types of chemical injuies.

some others clained they didn't do those kinds of cases just because

mold cant hurt you and if it makes you fell a little bad you get

better after you vacate the sorce, why? because thats what they heard

from the grape vine and they dont hardley ever investagate things for

themselfs. these cases can be won and have been won, it takes a

honest lawyer with balls and who knows what they are doing. to bad

many are just lazy and only take cases where everything in laid in

their laps, another portion no doubt know exactly whats going on but

aren't very commeted to justice and truth. why is our justice system

so corupted? because thats where change happens on a big scale. the

more toxic mold cases that are won, the more lawyers that will start

doing them and the more that will be won and that leads to public

knowledge by way of news coverage because they go where the news is.

and a good lawyer that knows what he's doing will take a case on

percentage of wins and work hard to make sure he's covered all the

bases and will know whats at stake and will know the diffuculties

surrounding both home testing and our prpblems with getting proper

medical atten. and the difficults surrounding doing that with haveing

MCS. a good lawyer would also know the problens surrounding ACOEM

member doctors and should have their experts already lined up.

and knowing the brain injury involved would know how hard it will be

for the client to be basicly doing all the work.

and injuy cases are suppose to be done asap, so if you hire a lawyer

he a few years go by with nothing being done on your cases you minght

want to start wondering why. let's not make excuses for lawyers, they

get paid very well and it's their job to know what they are doing and

tp represent their client as best as possable and if they find it's

to much for them to do alone, they bring in other lawyers,ect. to

help. if your lawyer doesn't believe in you or your case, theres only

so many other reasons they would take your case and there not good.

>

> Yep. It is just like every other aspect to this issue. There are

good

> lawyers who have not been able to accomplish because of he misinfo

in policy. But

> at the same time, there are some who think these cases are going

to be a

> piece of cake...when they are not, they quit working

them...leaving the victim,

> victimized again. Wish our lawyers would do more on the policy

front. That

> letter by an attorney in the IJOEH really had an impact. Too bad

there are

> not more of those invovled.

[Guest guest]

Most competent lawyers do not take a case right off the bat. They

assess the case and do research and that is the best time to accept or

reject the case. Before. Not after. They need to know " what they

are getting into, " before they " invest their time and resources " in

the case.

>

> Yep. It is just like every other aspect to this issue.

[Guest guest]

The legal system, in our case and many other cases, is so corrupt because

Insurance

companies are the biggest group of lobby managers in the world. They contribute

millions to all the politicians in the country. Insurance companies have a

pretty good hold

on what goes on.

The shame of it is, if the legal system was worked the way it was originally

planned

without outside influence, it would work great.

The legal system is no longer for consumers or victims, it is for attorneys to

pad their back

pockets.

>

> This is a subject better off left alone because theres many different

> senarios possable here. I haven't came acroos a single lawyer that

> would take these cases because they think they are easy and believe

> me I've talked to many, most who had a conflict of interest when it

> came to going after the insurance co.

[Guest guest]

Ginny,

I have much respect for the legal profession. I know how tough these mold

cases can be. But, lets be honest here. There are only a handful of well

trained mold plaintiff attorneys around the country, that I am aware. And most

of them will not take a case unless the client is as pure as Mother .

They can't if they want to hope to get paid their percentage for a

win/settlement.

Why do you think it is that ATLA has not done more to assist and educate the

mold attorneys?

In a message dated 2/24/2009 2:59:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

ginloi@... writes:

Most competent lawyers do not take a case right off the bat. They

assess the case and do research and that is the best time to accept or

reject the case.=

[Guest guest]

I recently read somewhere that no one group gives more money to

legislators than the medical industry. I thought they gave a lot but

nor more than any other group, including the insurance industry.

It looks like the tail wagging the dog. How can medicine give the

most and be " controlled " by another less " controlling " industry?

>

> The legal system, in our case and many other cases, is so corrupt

because Insurance

> companies are the biggest group of lobby managers in the world.

They contribute

> millions to all the politicians in the country.

[Guest guest]

Semco, good job. According to this article published today, financial firms

have spent $3.4 BILLION on lobbying over the past 10 years.

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109 & STORY=/www/story/02-24-2009\

/0004977689 & EDATE=

________________________________

From: semco_semco_semco <semco_semco_semco@...>

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:50:14 AM

Subject: [] Re: topic from another board " Fed Up With Lawyers! "

The legal system, in our case and many other cases, is so corrupt because

Insurance

companies are the biggest group of lobby managers in the world. They contribute

millions to all the politicians in the country.

[Guest guest]

Here's . Contact her here. She has a blog and a way to contact her.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile & friendid=160233\

212

>

>

> Below is the well written rant from another discussion board about another

> area of concern over this issue. Goofy lawyers!....(This is not a personal

> comment. My lawyers are good guys.)

>

[Guest guest]

And the biggest slap in the face after you read that article is THEY DON'T PAY

THEIR

FRIGGIN CLAIMS!

>

> Semco, good job. According to this article published today, financial firms

have spent

$3.4 BILLION on lobbying over the past 10 years.

>

> http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109 & STORY=/www/story/02-

24-2009/0004977689 & EDATE=

[Guest guest]

Here's another way to contact Brokovich

http://www.brockovich.com/

>

> Semco, good job. According to this article published today, financial firms

have spent

$3.4 BILLION on lobbying over the past 10 years.

>

> http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109 & STORY=/www/story/02-

24-2009/0004977689 & EDATE=

[Guest guest]

I cannot speak for ATLA. This is not just about Mold. It is a Toxic

Tort. You have to give lawyers something to " work with " - for example,

I have attended seminars where very experienced lawyers teach newer

and fellow lawyers how to " make the bar " with evidence standards. And,

often they are dealing with x-rays and MRI's which might not be

refutable. Those techniques are " accepted standards " of medical

practice for diagnosis and treatment. If it is an auto accident you

have to prove the " nexus " or the connection between the impact and the

injury. You have to prove that the impact of the car, the speed, the

materials in the car were capable of the injury sustained.

Bronchoscopy-lavages/biopsies are not the standard of care in all

contexts. They might be more frequently used in the agrarian context,

where the exposure is " in the barn " of the farmer, but not in the

classroom. I see this as the major difference. Disparate treatment

among diagnoses.

I realize it is hard to " get your arms around " the notion that doctors

would treat the same illness profile differently, but from where I

sit, both as someone who was " injured " and given the " run-around " for

several years, as well as someone with a legal education, that is how

I assess the picture.

The problem is with the medical " standard of care " that is espoused.

A lawyer cannot change the medical standard per se, only take the

" proof " offered by the client or investigators and an " expert witness "

to advance the case of the client. And " tie it up " in a bow, for the

judge or the jury to decide. In many ways the job is one of

" educating " the court and the jury.

If there is a medical " treatise " or handbook that is in " acceptance "

in the profession, then they can use that in court and question the

doctors about whether the patient was treated according to what was in

that " handbook. "

That is why I feel the Military Medical handbook should be given

" parity " with some of the other " treatises " that are accepted in

court, until such time as the information incorporated within it are

part of all medical training and practice handbooks.

And, why I feel the whole military branch needs to be involved at the

medical level because of their knowledge of the biotoxin issues, and

the Customs branch for the importation of damaged sheetrock, and

building products which might be moldy and which enter the market place.

If it were a Labor issue, for example, you would go to the " labor

contract book " that governs the parties. And you might look at " past

practice " or " cases on appeal. " This is a medical issue where the

" handbook " in practice, needs to reflect what the illnesses are which

" arise " out of a toxic " exposure " injury. The " handbook " that the

doctors are learning out of does not reflect the illnesses that have

" arisen " as a result of toxic mold exposure.

This is my own personal opinion and does not reflect any other than my

own.

>

> Ginny,

>

> I have much respect for the legal profession. I know how tough

these mold

> cases can be. But, lets be honest here. There are only a handful

of well

> trained mold plaintiff attorneys around the country, that I am

aware. And most

> of them will not take a case unless the client is as pure as Mother

.

[Guest guest]

Ginny, I agree that mold cases are tough, but I would like to reword the rest of

your

statement. The handful of attorneys who know how to handle these cases didn't

just drop

out of the air, they sat down, did researched and actually WORKED to learn about

mold.

That's how they got where they are today.

So, please let me reword this, There are only a handful of well self educated

hard working

attorneys who wanted to learn about the problem in the country. A HUGE

majority of

them are basically lazy and, like you said, only want cases where the plaintiff

is as pure as

Mother Nature, or cases where they don't have to do anything but sit on their

tuff.

>

> Ginny,

>

> I have much respect for the legal profession. I know how tough these mold

> cases can be. But, lets be honest here. There are only a handful of well

> trained mold plaintiff attorneys around the country, that I am aware. And

most

> of them will not take a case unless the client is as pure as Mother .

> They can't if they want to hope to get paid their percentage for a

> win/settlement.

>

> Why do you think it is that ATLA has not done more to assist and educate the

> mold attorneys?

>

>

> In a message dated 2/24/2009 2:59:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> ginloi@... writes:

>

> Most competent lawyers do not take a case right off the bat. They

> assess the case and do research and that is the best time to accept or

> reject the case.=

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot to mention one thing. If you are looking for an attorney who

doesn't work for

insurance companies, then try to access the Trial Lawyers Association in your

state. The

attorneys who are members generally work for the general pubic, NOT insurance

agencies

or big business.

>

> Semco, good job. According to this article published today, financial firms

have spent

$3.4 BILLION on lobbying over the past 10 years.

>

> http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109 & STORY=/www/story/02-

24-2009/0004977689 & EDATE=

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: semco_semco_semco <semco_semco_semco@...>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:50:14 AM

> Subject: [] Re: topic from another board " Fed Up With Lawyers! "

>

>

> The legal system, in our case and many other cases, is so corrupt because

Insurance

> companies are the biggest group of lobby managers in the world. They

contribute

> millions to all the politicians in the country.

>

[Guest guest]

what does a brain injury and chenical sensitivity have to do with

purity, thats bs. toxic torts are not based on purity. many brain

injurys can actually cause problems with behavior and gee, those

chemical exposures can bring on so rather fowl moods.

>

> Ginny,

>

> I have much respect for the legal profession. I know how tough

these mold

> cases can be. But, lets be honest here. There are only a handful

of well

> trained mold plaintiff attorneys around the country, that I am

aware. And most

> of them will not take a case unless the client is as pure as

Mother .

> They can't if they want to hope to get paid their percentage for a

> win/settlement.

>

> Why do you think it is that ATLA has not done more to assist and

educate the

> mold attorneys?

>

>

> In a message dated 2/24/2009 2:59:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> ginloi@... writes:

>

> Most competent lawyers do not take a case right off the bat. They

> assess the case and do research and that is the best time to

accept or

> reject the case.=

>

[Guest guest]

Tough is not the word. I know of attorneys who have taken on cases,

who have had their computers " sabotaged " and otherwise have been

harassed or intimidated in some fashion. You are right that they had

to learn about mold. And the good ones who have done that are few and

far between. After the " mold is gold " images died down, the

" specialty " area required a great deal of study and and you are right

about clients who expect a " magic wand " in the hand of the lawyer. I

once felt that way myself, and the last thing a sick client wants to

do is go from lawyer to lawyer and pour the whole story out and drag

documents from office to office looking for someone to represent them

assertively and competently.

But they are at a disadvantage with the standard of medical diagnosis

and treatment, and with the refusal of the government to " close ranks "

among the agencies (like DOD, Customs and the FDA; the FDA should have

a great deal of information about mycotoxins in the agrarian context.

I don't hear anyone going after them.

The pure as Mother Nature is an important thing. There is a doctrine

known " clean hands " where if you go into court, you risk anyone prying

into your " skeletons " and that does make people very wary, when you

have a private investigator " tailing " you if you file a Workers' Comp.

claim. You need " clean hands " as well. Or they may try to relate the

exposure to your " mental status " because it is a " non-apparent "

injury. Often the defendant is " blowing smoke " to intimidate you.

> >

> > Ginny,

> >

> > I have much respect for the legal profession. I know how tough

these mold

> > cases can be. But, lets be honest here. There are only a

handful of well

> > trained mold plaintiff attorneys around the country, that I am

aware. And most

> > of them will not take a case unless the client is as pure as

Mother .

> > They can't if they want to hope to get paid their percentage for a

> > win/settlement.

> >

> > Why do you think it is that ATLA has not done more to assist and

educate the

> > mold attorneys?

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/24/2009 2:59:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > ginloi@ writes:

> >

> > Most competent lawyers do not take a case right off the bat. They

> > assess the case and do research and that is the best time to

accept or

> > reject the case.=

> >

>

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To me, this " pure as Mother Nature " is one of the most tragic aspects of

this issue because it discriminates against the poor. One is more likely to

have

something in their past..whether it be a teen that got into trouble, or one

getting into trouble themselves in their youth...if not having lived in a

privileged world. I understand why attorneys, who only get paid if the case

wins or settles, cannot afford to take cases where the client has some

skeletons

in their closet. So, someone could be living in low income housing with a

whole family seriously ill from mold, at their are disadvantaged before they

speak the first word to an attorney.

But...that wasn't the gist of the original thread from ToxicMoldSurvivors.

The gist was of attorneys who take cases and then don't work them making it

even more difficult for the injured to receive restitution. I don't care what

the situation is, there is no excuse for that. And yes, it does sometimes

happen that the person is then forced to settle for a pittance - even when

they can prove they have been injured - because a lazy lawyer destroyed their

case. I could tell you a couple of absolute horror stories over this aspect. I

could tell you of a predatory plaintiff attorney who works referrals and

then takes a percentage of the fees obtained (instead of 30%, people are

charged

40%) with the 10% of the low settlement obtained thru MINIMAL work going to

the referring attorney) - but will refrain.

Be wary people, of any attorney who is going to " hook you up " with a

" partnering attorney " that is " great " at mold cases. Sometimes, these referring

attorneys are just cold calling other attorneys to take your case, which the

good

ones won't do if your case is presented to them in this manner. They don't

need referrals. Nor do they need to charge you more while giving a referring

attorney 10%.

Sharon

In a message dated 2/25/2009 5:05:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

ginloi@... writes:

The pure as Mother Nature is an important thing. There is a doctrine

known " clean hands " where if you go into court, you risk anyone prying

into your " skeletons " and that does make people very wary, when you

have a private investigator " tailing " you if you file a Workers' Comp.

claim. You need " clean hands " as well. Or they may try to relate the

exposure to your " mental status " because it is a " non-apparent "

injury. Often the defendant is " blowing smoke " to intimidate you.

Sharon Noonan Kramer

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