Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Lots of babies bite. My friend just recently had to switch daycares because her baby was biting another child. She always bit the same kid. They couldn't come up with a solution, so to keep her baby from getting " kicked out " of the daycare, she was pro-active and found a new daycare on her own. Her baby hasn't bitten since. A. Special Educator Simon Kenton High School (859)960-0348 cynthia.jones@... " Deaf People Can Do Anything Except Hear! " (I. King Jordan) Confidentiality Notice - This email is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, kindly contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, but do not wish to receive communication through this medium, please advise the sender immediately. ________________________________ From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf Of gseda217 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:26 AM To: MosaicDS Subject: How do I stop my baby from biting? Hi everyone, If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has two very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he can use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and just does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or sadness. Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were very short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he scrunches his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes them away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone child like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 In my experience, a child is biting as a form of communication. This would be defensive communication. I will bet that the " other " child that was being bit is now " antagonizing " another child and will soon be bit by another child. I am not saying that it is right or wrong, but I do know that bites are not friendly in nature and they are usually provoked. (And I am sure the daycare workers swore up and down that the other child was not provoking your child, but you can rest assured that is a bunch of bull, as I worked in daycares years ago and I knew the causes.) Just be glad that your child is away from that other child and a daycare where they obviously were not so attentive. I am assuming that your child was too young to tell you " why " she was biting, correct? I would just take it as a blessing you are not there anymore. :0) I hope that makes you view it differently for your child, as it probably was the other kids instigations causing it. (More likely than not.) > > Lots of babies bite. My friend just recently had to switch daycares > because her baby was biting another child. She always bit the same kid. > They couldn't come up with a solution, so to keep her baby from getting > " kicked out " of the daycare, she was pro-active and found a new daycare > on her own. Her baby hasn't bitten since. > > > > A. > > Special Educator > > Simon Kenton High School > > (859)960-0348 > > cynthia.jones@... > > " Deaf People Can Do Anything Except Hear! " (I. King Jordan) > > Confidentiality Notice - This email is intended only for the person to > whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Any > unauthorized review is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, kindly contact the sender by reply email and destroy all > copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, but > do not wish to receive communication through this medium, please advise > the sender immediately. > > ________________________________ > > From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On > Behalf Of gseda217 > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:26 AM > To: MosaicDS > Subject: How do I stop my baby from biting? > > > > Hi everyone, > If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has two > very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he can > use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and just > does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs > too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or sadness. > Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, > since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were very > short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just > because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he scrunches > his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes them > away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone child > like this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi My son Hunter is 13 months old and he has probably been biting from about 10 months as well. When he bites me I say " No Biting " in a firm voice and put him on the floor, agaist a blank wall, away from his toys for about a minute. Walk away. For the first couple of months he obviously didn't really know that he was in trouble and used to love hitting and playing against the wall, however I have noticed the last 2 times I've done this he is crying before I even get him to the wall and knows he's in trouble. When he first starting biting he was doing it at least once a day, and now he only does it once, maybe twice a week. And he HATES being in the naughty corner. At the start he didn't know what he was doing, he just had these new teeth and wanted to use them, but he understands now alot more. Sometimes now, he might bite my jumper and he looks up straight away with a cheeky smile because he knows he's bitten. If we are out at someone else's place and he does it, I do the same thing, except maybe instead of putting him against the wall, I place him on the floor somewhere and walk away. I would really recommend introducing something similar. Keep it simple (no biting), don't get into long conversations with him as to why he shouldn't bite, and remove yourself from the situation. Let me know how you go. Good luck. Cheers Fiona Mum to Hunter mds (1) ______________________________________________________________ Hi everyone, > If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has two > very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he can > use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and just > does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs > too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or sadness. > Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, > since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were very > short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just > because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he scrunches > his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes them > away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone child > like this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Has anyone considered biting their child back? I know it sounds " old school " , but this is what worked for Austin the last time he bit Trey. For Austin it was an issue of not understanding that it hurt. Once he understood that it hurt other people (because I bit him back, not hard and left no marks), he quit doing it. Funnily enough, this is what my Mom had to do with me and my late brother as well. Once we understood that it hurt, we never did it again.... JMHO, Blessings Abound, (Becky) Rowe Mom to Trey (8 ADHD) & Austin (6 MDS) ________________________________ Family Assistance Coordinator www.imdsa.org or becky@... ________________________________ To: MosaicDS Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04:16 AM Subject: Re: Re: How do I stop my baby from biting? kristina is 7 and still has biting issues From: Fiona & Lee Price <flpricedodo (DOT) com.au> Subject: Re: How do I stop my baby from biting? To: MosaicDS@yahoogroup s.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:32 AM Hi My son Hunter is 13 months old and he has probably been biting from about 10 months as well. When he bites me I say " No Biting " in a firm voice and put him on the floor, agaist a blank wall, away from his toys for about a minute. Walk away. For the first couple of months he obviously didn't really know that he was in trouble and used to love hitting and playing against the wall, however I have noticed the last 2 times I've done this he is crying before I even get him to the wall and knows he's in trouble. When he first starting biting he was doing it at least once a day, and now he only does it once, maybe twice a week. And he HATES being in the naughty corner. At the start he didn't know what he was doing, he just had these new teeth and wanted to use them, but he understands now alot more. Sometimes now, he might bite my jumper and he looks up straight away with a cheeky smile because he knows he's bitten. If we are out at someone else's place and he does it, I do the same thing, except maybe instead of putting him against the wall, I place him on the floor somewhere and walk away. I would really recommend introducing something similar. Keep it simple (no biting), don't get into long conversations with him as to why he shouldn't bite, and remove yourself from the situation. Let me know how you go. Good luck. Cheers Fiona Mum to Hunter mds (1) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Hi everyone, > If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has two > very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he can > use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and just > does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs > too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or sadness. > Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, > since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were very > short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just > because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he scrunches > his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes them > away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone child > like this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 As a health care professional, " I " really do NOT recommend biting the child back. That actually happened to my eldest daughter over 20 years ago by a daycare worker (one reason I do not like daycares). Two Reasons NOT to bite a child back: 1. It reinforces the negative behavior (If it isn't ok for the child to bite, then it should not be ok for you to bite either. Additionally, the child will repeat the behavior to see if your response is consistent; if you do bite the child again, then the child will keep doing it and if you don't, the child learns that he does not get the same response when he does an action. Cause and Effect are a developmental milestone that must be learned and you do not want your child to learn a negative behavior or an incorrect way of thinking about something.) 2. If you accept this as a form of correction, and you also allow others to do it,then you are actually allowing abuse to your child. I am not going to get onto that subject too much, but it is abusive and at the same time, you do not know what germs, viruses or DISEASES that someone may transmit to your child by doing this. If someone with AIDS or herpes bites your child, your child can get the disease. Even a cold sore in or on the mouth is the herpes virus and can be easily transmitted through a bite. (especially if the skin gets broken) The best scenario is to consistently remove the child from the situation and reinforce that teeth are for biting food only and we use them to eat food. Reinforcing the proper use for something, whether it be teeth or a hairbrush or whatever, is the apropriate thing to do. Please do not bite your child or allow others to do so. > > From: Fiona & Lee Price <flpricedodo (DOT) com.au> > Subject: Re: How do I stop my baby from biting? > To: MosaicDS@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:32 AM > > Hi > > My son Hunter is 13 months old and he has probably been biting from about 10 months as well. When he bites me I say " No Biting " in a firm voice and put him on the floor, agaist a blank wall, away from his toys for about a minute. Walk away. For the first couple of months he obviously didn't really know that he was in trouble and used to love hitting and playing against the wall, however I have noticed the last 2 times I've done this he is crying before I even get him to the wall and knows he's in trouble. > > When he first starting biting he was doing it at least once a day, and now he only does it once, maybe twice a week. And he HATES being in the naughty corner. At the start he didn't know what he was doing, he just had these new teeth and wanted to use them, but he understands now alot more. Sometimes now, he might bite my jumper and he looks up straight away with a cheeky smile because he knows he's bitten. > > If we are out at someone else's place and he does it, I do the same thing, except maybe instead of putting him against the wall, I place him on the floor somewhere and walk away. > > I would really recommend introducing something similar. Keep it simple (no biting), don't get into long conversations with him as to why he shouldn't bite, and remove yourself from the situation. > > Let me know how you go. Good luck. > > Cheers > Fiona > Mum to Hunter mds (1) > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Hi everyone, > > If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has > two > > very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he > can > > use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and > just > > does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs > > too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or > sadness. > > Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, > > since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were > very > > short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just > > because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he > scrunches > > his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes > them > > away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone > child > > like this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 All I am going to say on this subject is this: We agree to disagree....AND I DO NOT ABUSE MY CHILDREN! Blessings Abound, (Becky) Rowe Mom to Trey (8 ADHD) & Austin (6 MDS) ________________________________ Family Assistance Coordinator www.imdsa.org or becky@... ________________________________ To: MosaicDS Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:13:34 PM Subject: Re: How do I stop my baby from biting? As a health care professional, " I " really do NOT recommend biting the child back. That actually happened to my eldest daughter over 20 years ago by a daycare worker (one reason I do not like daycares). Two Reasons NOT to bite a child back: 1. It reinforces the negative behavior (If it isn't ok for the child to bite, then it should not be ok for you to bite either. Additionally, the child will repeat the behavior to see if your response is consistent; if you do bite the child again, then the child will keep doing it and if you don't, the child learns that he does not get the same response when he does an action. Cause and Effect are a developmental milestone that must be learned and you do not want your child to learn a negative behavior or an incorrect way of thinking about something.) 2. If you accept this as a form of correction, and you also allow others to do it,then you are actually allowing abuse to your child. I am not going to get onto that subject too much, but it is abusive and at the same time, you do not know what germs, viruses or DISEASES that someone may transmit to your child by doing this. If someone with AIDS or herpes bites your child, your child can get the disease. Even a cold sore in or on the mouth is the herpes virus and can be easily transmitted through a bite. (especially if the skin gets broken) The best scenario is to consistently remove the child from the situation and reinforce that teeth are for biting food only and we use them to eat food. Reinforcing the proper use for something, whether it be teeth or a hairbrush or whatever, is the apropriate thing to do. Please do not bite your child or allow others to do so. > > From: Fiona & Lee Price <flpricedodo (DOT) com.au> > Subject: Re: How do I stop my baby from biting? > To: MosaicDS@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:32 AM > > Hi > > My son Hunter is 13 months old and he has probably been biting from about 10 months as well. When he bites me I say " No Biting " in a firm voice and put him on the floor, agaist a blank wall, away from his toys for about a minute. Walk away. For the first couple of months he obviously didn't really know that he was in trouble and used to love hitting and playing against the wall, however I have noticed the last 2 times I've done this he is crying before I even get him to the wall and knows he's in trouble. > > When he first starting biting he was doing it at least once a day, and now he only does it once, maybe twice a week. And he HATES being in the naughty corner. At the start he didn't know what he was doing, he just had these new teeth and wanted to use them, but he understands now alot more. Sometimes now, he might bite my jumper and he looks up straight away with a cheeky smile because he knows he's bitten. > > If we are out at someone else's place and he does it, I do the same thing, except maybe instead of putting him against the wall, I place him on the floor somewhere and walk away. > > I would really recommend introducing something similar. Keep it simple (no biting), don't get into long conversations with him as to why he shouldn't bite, and remove yourself from the situation. > > Let me know how you go. Good luck. > > Cheers > Fiona > Mum to Hunter mds (1) > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Hi everyone, > > If you don't already know my son, Vinny is 10 months old. He has > two > > very sharp bottom teeth and 1 top tooth and has discovered that he > can > > use them to bite. When we say " no, no " or " no bite " he laughs and > just > > does it a minute or two later. When I act like I'm crying he laughs > > too. I believe he doesn't know or possibly feel emotions or > sadness. > > Well I can't say emotions because he does laugh, but he never crys, > > since he was born he must have cried about 3 times and they were > very > > short and over food. I don't know if this is a trait of MDS or just > > because he's 10 months. When our voices get really stern he > scrunches > > his face and lips and puts his arm over his face but then takes > them > > away and laughs. Does anyone have any ideas for me or is anyone > child > > like this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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