Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hi back at you, Jan, The last two days were wonderful! Don and I even danced. I didn't realize it but, I am doing exactly as you said. I am gently pulling him into the group. I love the music and Don has been avoiding it, yet he loves music too. He really tried to dance yesterday. I was so proud of him. I could see that Parkinsonism was working in full force. He had a time making his legs move in time with the music, but that was alright. We didn't dance much. But, I am drawing him into the fun. I took today off, so that he doesn't call all the shots, and doesn't expect me everyday. He will learn that I need alone time. I never took Don to a hotel, but that is a good suggestion for beginners. Don is finally getting adjusted to his bed. The other day I told him and his room mate that I was proud of them for managing to put up with each other so well. I was trying to help Don learn to accept another person in his room. He's learning. He is beginning to accept other people. The one thing he hated in the dining room was being assigned to a table with a man that has said some nasty things to him. When I am there we dine at a table alone. Love a lot, and keep on keeping on smart lady, Imogene In a message dated 11/5/2008 3:32:11 PM Central Standard Time, janetcolello@... writes: Hi Imogene! Good to see you here. I am not so sure you want to do this with Don, It takes some time and patients and a lot of your energy. I know you have the patients, but how much work you want to get involved in to desensitize Don to noise is the question. You know how I keep mentioning you need to do like when you had kids and not let them manipulate you. It's easier said than done. At preschool with new kids experiencing a class for the first time, you need to put them into the situation they fear a step at a time. The first day they will cry and scream, so you need to be understanding and gentle maybe take them outside where it is more quiet, give them a quiet place where they are comfortable, the next time you don't go outside, you find a distraction inside to help them adjust and then you lead them to another thing. You find the things they like to do and play with them until they adjust to that situation and then you lead them into the next thing sitting in a circle with lots of kids singing and noise. You take steps at a time until they are desensitized and can join the classroom without fear. Maybe have another teacher sit with them too, so they get used to that teacher and talk about how that teacher is fun, so they get to like the other teachers too, not just the one they bonded to. With Don, you would have to slowly and gradually bring noise to him. At first maybe in the nh familyroom where everyone gathers, at least that is where everyone gathers where Jim is. It can get noisy and then make sure he is taken to all the music activities with singing, piano whatever. If he doesn't want to stay you say you like it and want to stay or something to that effect. If he still fights it, you bring him out of the situation, but you bring him back again the next time and stay a little longer, you stay a little longer each time until finally he is having a good time and can stay for the entire activity. You show you are having a good time too. They are like children and can sense if you are not enjoying it, so why should they. Next step is the dining hall, maybe get him a knit cap to pull down over his ears to muff the sound a little, even ear muffs might help. LOL I put a knit cap on Jim's head when he is cold, even inside. He likes to wear it to bed too sometimes. So you might tell Don it is to keep his head warm or something if he doesn't like to wear a knit cap. I know he is more of a cowboy hat man. Does that kind of hat go over the ears? You might have to get some kind of thing that muffs the sound for him, until he adjusts to it. The thing is to not take them out of the situation, but adjust them to the situation a step at a time. Do it with fun and ease, so they don't know you are actually working on them. LOL It has worked for Jim. I took him to all the outdoor summer concerts in the park last summer with lots of people and noise, he enjoyed it. I take him to all kinds of social situations. I hear others say they can't take their LOs out of the house, they are confused and paranoid. When I was first reading those things 5 years ago, I began desensitizing Jim so he would not get that way. I even took him to a hotel every 6 mos. when he lived at home, so I could get some respite out of the house, even though he was with me. He learned to accept being in different environments. I left him in an Adult Day Care Program 2 days a week too. I could even leave him in a facility for a week and take a vacation after he adjusted to being taken to a hotel and to Adult Day Care. I know they can learn if you work on it with them and not cater to them and take them out of the situation they have a problem in, but at the same time be gentle and understanding to their sensitivities and let them know you are there. Anyway, it's another preschool skill I used on Jim and it worked, so that it is no problem to take him out of his environment. I also do similar activities with Jim that shared about the Montessori Exercises to do with dementia patients. Hope you and Don are having better times at the nh. Love a lot, Jan **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. 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Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hi Imogene! Good to see you here. I am not so sure you want to do this with Don, It takes some time and patients and a lot of your energy. I know you have the patients, but how much work you want to get involved in to desensitize Don to noise is the question. You know how I keep mentioning you need to do like when you had kids and not let them manipulate you. It's easier said than done. At preschool with new kids experiencing a class for the first time, you need to put them into the situation they fear a step at a time. The first day they will cry and scream, so you need to be understanding and gentle maybe take them outside where it is more quiet, give them a quiet place where they are comfortable, the next time you don't go outside, you find a distraction inside to help them adjust and then you lead them to another thing. You find the things they like to do and play with them until they adjust to that situation and then you lead them into the next thing sitting in a circle with lots of kids singing and noise. You take steps at a time until they are desensitized and can join the classroom without fear. Maybe have another teacher sit with them too, so they get used to that teacher and talk about how that teacher is fun, so they get to like the other teachers too, not just the one they bonded to. With Don, you would have to slowly and gradually bring noise to him. At first maybe in the nh familyroom where everyone gathers, at least that is where everyone gathers where Jim is. It can get noisy and then make sure he is taken to all the music activities with singing, piano whatever. If he doesn't want to stay you say you like it and want to stay or something to that effect. If he still fights it, you bring him out of the situation, but you bring him back again the next time and stay a little longer, you stay a little longer each time until finally he is having a good time and can stay for the entire activity. You show you are having a good time too. They are like children and can sense if you are not enjoying it, so why should they. Next step is the dining hall, maybe get him a knit cap to pull down over his ears to muff the sound a little, even ear muffs might help. LOL I put a knit cap on Jim's head when he is cold, even inside. He likes to wear it to bed too sometimes. So you might tell Don it is to keep his head warm or something if he doesn't like to wear a knit cap. I know he is more of a cowboy hat man. Does that kind of hat go over the ears? You might have to get some kind of thing that muffs the sound for him, until he adjusts to it. The thing is to not take them out of the situation, but adjust them to the situation a step at a time. Do it with fun and ease, so they don't know you are actually working on them. LOL It has worked for Jim. I took him to all the outdoor summer concerts in the park last summer with lots of people and noise, he enjoyed it. I take him to all kinds of social situations. I hear others say they can't take their LOs out of the house, they are confused and paranoid. When I was first reading those things 5 years ago, I began desensitizing Jim so he would not get that way. I even took him to a hotel every 6 mos. when he lived at home, so I could get some respite out of the house, even though he was with me. He learned to accept being in different environments. I left him in an Adult Day Care Program 2 days a week too. I could even leave him in a facility for a week and take a vacation after he adjusted to being taken to a hotel and to Adult Day Care. I know they can learn if you work on it with them and not cater to them and take them out of the situation they have a problem in, but at the same time be gentle and understanding to their sensitivities and let them know you are there. Anyway, it's another preschool skill I used on Jim and it worked, so that it is no problem to take him out of his environment. I also do similar activities with Jim that shared about the Montessori Exercises to do with dementia patients. Hope you and Don are having better times at the nh. Love a lot, Jan ________________________________ To: LBDcaregivers Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:19:52 PM Subject: Re: Montessori Exercises for People with Dementia/Jan C Hi Jan C. I appreciate your letters very much. Please tell me what you actually did to desensitize the children to the large classroom with teachers? Don has ears like a rabbit, and has always been sensitive to noises, and at sometimes more than others. The NH dining hall is very noisy. Love you lady, Imogene In a message dated 11/5/2008 10:13:46 AM Central Standard Time, janetcolello@ yahoo.com writes: Being a preschool teacher I use the same ideas with Jim. I found out long ago that all my preschool teaching skills have come in handy with Jim. I have been trying to get that point across many times that they can learn preschool concepts. I have used preschool skills to desensitize Jim to crowds of people and be able to take him out in crowds, even at the nursing home he is comfortable. Many kids for the first time in a classroom full of kids and strange teachers are scared and uncomfortable, so I use my early childhood training to get Jim through the process. (Remember, kids are taught these days not to speak to strangers and then they are shoved into a class full of strangers, there are 5 teachers in a class) Many situations for a person with LBD are similar to a preschool age child. I saw that in the very beginning and started using my skills. I would tell others our LOs are like two and three year olds and to use the concepts for that age group, because our LOs are at the other end of the scale and have gone full circle, but some would say that the only difference is that the child end of the scale is learning abilities and the elder end of the scale they are losing the ability to learn, but I have seen Jim learn. I can totally agree with this article that you have sent. Thank you, this confirms everything that I have seen. Jan C. ************ **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121279 2382x1200798498/ aol?redir= http://searchblo g.aol.com/ 2008/11/04/ happy-holidays- from -aol-search/ ?ncid=emlcntusse ar00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Excellent Imogene! How wonderful that you and Don danced. It doesn't matter if he can't get his feet to move in time to the music, it's that he is involved in the fun and he's happy to be with you dancing and having a connection with you. I dance with Jim too and he is in a wheelchair. We find a spot in the back of the floor with space and I spin him around in his chair and push him out and back in toward me and then we go round and he loves being a part of the fun. We clap and hoot and holler. well, mostly I do, but it stimulates Jim to sing and have fun. It makes life more interesting for him. Now, you've got the idea on what I am talking about. Jim sleeps better too after having some stimulation. Sounds like Don is beginning to adjust to his surroundings. Imogene, I actually have fun at the nh with Jim. There are some activities that Jim can not do like the art work and coloring. He hates it, he knows he can only scribble and he is embarrassed, so he doesn't do it and he can't process how to play Bingo or dominoes, but I bring him into Bingo and Dominoes and I play the games. He likes to be in there with all the people and watch. They give dimes for people that win the games, so I give my dimes if I win to some of the residents. They like to win the dimes, because they save them and then they have $1.00 or a little more to spend on an outing to the Dollar Store or something. Jim always likes the music entertainment and so do I (Where else can you get free entertainment) and he loves to do the ball exercises that they have in activities. I am so glad he likes the ball exercises and the dancing, because the heavier he breathes from the exercising the less he will have Pneumonia setting in. There is a Spanish Speaking lady at the nh that annoys Jim. She is like a fly buzzing around his head and he wants to swat at her. She seeks Jim out all the time and he dislikes her near him. I don't know much Spanish, but one day she wheeled up next to me and kept saying something and touching her head while looking at Jim. You could tell by the body language that she was saying that Jim has lost his mind or has dementia. I believe that Jim picked up on it too, because ever since that day, he has wanted her way far away from him. I and the nurse will push her to the far end of the hall and like a boomrang, she comes right back to Jim. She is the only one that Jim has problems with. Keep up the good work Imogene and have fun with Don. I like to do all I can with Jim while he still can and give him some kind of life. Huge Hugs....................Jan ________________________________ To: LBDcaregivers Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:48:41 PM Subject: Re: Montessori Exercises for People with Dementia/Imogene Hi back at you, Jan, The last two days were wonderful! Don and I even danced. I didn't realize it but, I am doing exactly as you said. I am gently pulling him into the group. I love the music and Don has been avoiding it, yet he loves music too. He really tried to dance yesterday. I was so proud of him. I could see that Parkinsonism was working in full force. He had a time making his legs move in time with the music, but that was alright. We didn't dance much. But, I am drawing him into the fun. I took today off, so that he doesn't call all the shots, and doesn't expect me everyday. He will learn that I need alone time. I never took Don to a hotel, but that is a good suggestion for beginners. Don is finally getting adjusted to his bed. The other day I told him and his room mate that I was proud of them for managing to put up with each other so well. I was trying to help Don learn to accept another person in his room. He's learning. He is beginning to accept other people. The one thing he hated in the dining room was being assigned to a table with a man that has said some nasty things to him. When I am there we dine at a table alone. Love a lot, and keep on keeping on smart lady, Imogene In a message dated 11/5/2008 3:32:11 PM Central Standard Time, janetcolello@ yahoo.com writes: Hi Imogene! Good to see you here. I am not so sure you want to do this with Don, It takes some time and patients and a lot of your energy. I know you have the patients, but how much work you want to get involved in to desensitize Don to noise is the question. You know how I keep mentioning you need to do like when you had kids and not let them manipulate you. It's easier said than done. At preschool with new kids experiencing a class for the first time, you need to put them into the situation they fear a step at a time. The first day they will cry and scream, so you need to be understanding and gentle maybe take them outside where it is more quiet, give them a quiet place where they are comfortable, the next time you don't go outside, you find a distraction inside to help them adjust and then you lead them to another thing. You find the things they like to do and play with them until they adjust to that situation and then you lead them into the next thing sitting in a circle with lots of kids singing and noise. You take steps at a time until they are desensitized and can join the classroom without fear. Maybe have another teacher sit with them too, so they get used to that teacher and talk about how that teacher is fun, so they get to like the other teachers too, not just the one they bonded to. With Don, you would have to slowly and gradually bring noise to him. At first maybe in the nh familyroom where everyone gathers, at least that is where everyone gathers where Jim is. It can get noisy and then make sure he is taken to all the music activities with singing, piano whatever. If he doesn't want to stay you say you like it and want to stay or something to that effect. If he still fights it, you bring him out of the situation, but you bring him back again the next time and stay a little longer, you stay a little longer each time until finally he is having a good time and can stay for the entire activity. You show you are having a good time too. They are like children and can sense if you are not enjoying it, so why should they. Next step is the dining hall, maybe get him a knit cap to pull down over his ears to muff the sound a little, even ear muffs might help. LOL I put a knit cap on Jim's head when he is cold, even inside. He likes to wear it to bed too sometimes. So you might tell Don it is to keep his head warm or something if he doesn't like to wear a knit cap. I know he is more of a cowboy hat man. Does that kind of hat go over the ears? You might have to get some kind of thing that muffs the sound for him, until he adjusts to it. The thing is to not take them out of the situation, but adjust them to the situation a step at a time. Do it with fun and ease, so they don't know you are actually working on them. LOL It has worked for Jim. I took him to all the outdoor summer concerts in the park last summer with lots of people and noise, he enjoyed it. I take him to all kinds of social situations. I hear others say they can't take their LOs out of the house, they are confused and paranoid. When I was first reading those things 5 years ago, I began desensitizing Jim so he would not get that way. I even took him to a hotel every 6 mos. when he lived at home, so I could get some respite out of the house, even though he was with me. He learned to accept being in different environments. I left him in an Adult Day Care Program 2 days a week too. I could even leave him in a facility for a week and take a vacation after he adjusted to being taken to a hotel and to Adult Day Care. I know they can learn if you work on it with them and not cater to them and take them out of the situation they have a problem in, but at the same time be gentle and understanding to their sensitivities and let them know you are there. Anyway, it's another preschool skill I used on Jim and it worked, so that it is no problem to take him out of his environment. I also do similar activities with Jim that shared about the Montessori Exercises to do with dementia patients. Hope you and Don are having better times at the nh. Love a lot, Jan ************ **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. 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Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Imogene, I'm so glad to read that you've had some better times with Don. Here's to having many many more! Many hugs, Helene Subject: Re: Montessori Exercises for People with Dementia/Imogene To: LBDcaregivers Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 7:48 PM Hi back at you, Jan, The last two days were wonderful! Don and I even danced. I didn't realize it but, I am doing exactly as you said. I am gently pulling him into the group. I love the music and Don has been avoiding it, yet he loves music too. He really tried to dance yesterday. I was so proud of him. I could see that Parkinsonism was working in full force. He had a time making his legs move in time with the music, but that was alright. We didn't dance much. But, I am drawing him into the fun. I took today off, so that he doesn't call all the shots, and doesn't expect me everyday. He will learn that I need alone time. I never took Don to a hotel, but that is a good suggestion for beginners. Don is finally getting adjusted to his bed. The other day I told him and his room mate that I was proud of them for managing to put up with each other so well. I was trying to help Don learn to accept another person in his room. He's learning. He is beginning to accept other people. The one thing he hated in the dining room was being assigned to a table with a man that has said some nasty things to him. When I am there we dine at a table alone. Love a lot, and keep on keeping on smart lady, Imogene In a message dated 11/5/2008 3:32:11 PM Central Standard Time, janetcolello@ yahoo.com writes: Hi Imogene! Good to see you here. I am not so sure you want to do this with Don, It takes some time and patients and a lot of your energy. I know you have the patients, but how much work you want to get involved in to desensitize Don to noise is the question. You know how I keep mentioning you need to do like when you had kids and not let them manipulate you. It's easier said than done. At preschool with new kids experiencing a class for the first time, you need to put them into the situation they fear a step at a time. The first day they will cry and scream, so you need to be understanding and gentle maybe take them outside where it is more quiet, give them a quiet place where they are comfortable, the next time you don't go outside, you find a distraction inside to help them adjust and then you lead them to another thing. You find the things they like to do and play with them until they adjust to that situation and then you lead them into the next thing sitting in a circle with lots of kids singing and noise. You take steps at a time until they are desensitized and can join the classroom without fear. Maybe have another teacher sit with them too, so they get used to that teacher and talk about how that teacher is fun, so they get to like the other teachers too, not just the one they bonded to. With Don, you would have to slowly and gradually bring noise to him. At first maybe in the nh familyroom where everyone gathers, at least that is where everyone gathers where Jim is. It can get noisy and then make sure he is taken to all the music activities with singing, piano whatever. If he doesn't want to stay you say you like it and want to stay or something to that effect. If he still fights it, you bring him out of the situation, but you bring him back again the next time and stay a little longer, you stay a little longer each time until finally he is having a good time and can stay for the entire activity. You show you are having a good time too. They are like children and can sense if you are not enjoying it, so why should they. Next step is the dining hall, maybe get him a knit cap to pull down over his ears to muff the sound a little, even ear muffs might help. LOL I put a knit cap on Jim's head when he is cold, even inside. He likes to wear it to bed too sometimes. So you might tell Don it is to keep his head warm or something if he doesn't like to wear a knit cap. I know he is more of a cowboy hat man. Does that kind of hat go over the ears? You might have to get some kind of thing that muffs the sound for him, until he adjusts to it. The thing is to not take them out of the situation, but adjust them to the situation a step at a time. Do it with fun and ease, so they don't know you are actually working on them. LOL It has worked for Jim. I took him to all the outdoor summer concerts in the park last summer with lots of people and noise, he enjoyed it. I take him to all kinds of social situations. I hear others say they can't take their LOs out of the house, they are confused and paranoid. When I was first reading those things 5 years ago, I began desensitizing Jim so he would not get that way. I even took him to a hotel every 6 mos. when he lived at home, so I could get some respite out of the house, even though he was with me. He learned to accept being in different environments. I left him in an Adult Day Care Program 2 days a week too. I could even leave him in a facility for a week and take a vacation after he adjusted to being taken to a hotel and to Adult Day Care. I know they can learn if you work on it with them and not cater to them and take them out of the situation they have a problem in, but at the same time be gentle and understanding to their sensitivities and let them know you are there. Anyway, it's another preschool skill I used on Jim and it worked, so that it is no problem to take him out of his environment. I also do similar activities with Jim that shared about the Montessori Exercises to do with dementia patients. 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Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Precious Raquel, You wish for me, and you have no idea how I wish for you. You are a lovely person to be reaching out when you have so soon finished the journey and are now on a different kind of journey. Thank you with all my heart. You are a pearl. Love a lot, Imogene In a message dated 11/6/2008 10:04:26 AM Central Standard Time, la.melense@... writes: Dear friend, I am so glad to know that you had two good days with your beloved Don. It seems you've found a happy way to be close to him and not get exhausted or frustrated. My love to you and Don, and a big hug, Raquel **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://\ searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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