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[Guest guest]

Ginny,

No strategy for us in this. Just dumb luck that they did the pre-testing.

I had no idea what was going on that time. I thought the lab, that ended

up being a co-defendant, actually knew what they were doing. Their first

" post testing " when they cleared the house and told us it was safe for

reoccupancy...was taken about 6 inches inside the garage with the door open.

No testing even done in the house when they told us it was safe. They

couldn't find any chain of custody. I just happened to be home when they did

this so called clearance testing, but the tester did not know it. I came

around the corner to see where they were taking the test for the inside count.

Still did not understand just how corrupt this was.

I also went to the deposition of the woman who supposedly did the testing.

She could not remember anything about it. Not surprised. The woman in

depo was not the same woman I saw doing the tests.

It was a test done 3 days after they told us it was safe to go home (with

a child with cystic fibrosis), that I made them come back and take, that

told the tale - because my daughter was coughing a lot and we were all having

trouble breathing a bit. Showed high airborne mold spore counts, much

higher than when those professional idiots first walked in our door. We got the

real test results on Jan 6, 2002. Moved out that day and was never able

to go home again.

And , thank you for your kind words. Wish I could say that I just do

this because I like to help other people. But that is simply not the case.

The problem is, I like to sleep at night when my head hits the pillow. I

don't think I could do that while knowing I had the capability to make a

difference to a problem that is devastating so many, if I just turned a

blind eye and walked away. Bawh! Too many years in Catholic school as a child

or something!

Sharon

In a message dated 4/13/2009 1:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ginloi@... writes:

Some " Key Words " - " Pre and Post testing. " The Before and After. Very

smart strategy.

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[Guest guest]

Ginny,

Funny about your Catholic school education and becoming sharks who can swim

with sharks. I have always felt that having a Catholic school experience

as a young child causes one to question things. I remember being about 9

years old and thinking, " Okay, now let me get this straight: If I eat meat

on Friday, I am going straight to Hell, but if my non-Catholic friends eat

meat on Friday, nothing happens to them? "

It kind of makes you learn at an early age that everything someone in

authority tells you may not always be correct or founded in sound logic. You

have to figure things out yourself.

Sharon

In a message dated 4/13/2009 7:15:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ginloi@... writes:

Sharon -

Catholic school make us like sharks...and able to " swim with the sharks "

like we must now. I thank God, I got such a good basic education that has

" carried me through life, " despite spending a good portion in " detention. "

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[Guest guest]

Sharon -

Catholic school make us like sharks...and able to " swim with the sharks " like we

must now. I thank God, I got such a good basic education that has " carried me

through life, " despite spending a good portion in " detention. "

And helped us develop good instincts, I think.

When I was first put in the moldy room, I knew something was wrong by the way

they handled everything. When I would hang photographs of the 7 Wonders of the

World and they got " damp and curled " I took out my camera to " record " it.

Your " luck " served you well.

The " testers " would come into my classroom and tell me it was " fine " but they

were testing for CO2 and not for mycotoxins. When I think back, I get enraged

that what they " tested around " the problem.

But, thank God, " collectively " we have learned, from these experiences and have

" gotten them out there. "

If there were no Internet, things would have been much worse.

>

> Ginny,

>

> No strategy for us in this. Just dumb luck that they did the pre-testing.

> I had no idea what was going on that time. I thought the lab, that ended

> up being a co-defendant, actually knew what they were doing. Their first

> " post testing " when they cleared the house and told us it was safe for

> reoccupancy...was taken about 6 inches inside the garage with the door open.

> No testing even done in the house when they told us it was safe. They

> couldn't find any chain of custody. I just happened to be home when they did

> this so called clearance testing, but the tester did not know it. I came

> around the corner to see where they were taking the test for the inside

count.

> Still did not understand just how corrupt this was.

>

> I also went to the deposition of the woman who supposedly did the testing.

> She could not remember anything about it. Not surprised. The woman in

> depo was not the same woman I saw doing the tests.

>

> It was a test done 3 days after they told us it was safe to go home (with

> a child with cystic fibrosis), that I made them come back and take, that

> told the tale - because my daughter was coughing a lot and we were all having

> trouble breathing a bit. Showed high airborne mold spore counts, much

> higher than when those professional idiots first walked in our door. We got

the

> real test results on Jan 6, 2002. Moved out that day and was never able

> to go home again.

>

> And , thank you for your kind words. Wish I could say that I just do

> this because I like to help other people. But that is simply not the case.

> The problem is, I like to sleep at night when my head hits the pillow. I

> don't think I could do that while knowing I had the capability to make a

> difference to a problem that is devastating so many, if I just turned a

> blind eye and walked away. Bawh! Too many years in Catholic school as a

child

> or something!

>

> Sharon

>

>

> In a message dated 4/13/2009 1:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> ginloi@... writes:

>

> Some " Key Words " - " Pre and Post testing. " The Before and After. Very

> smart strategy.

>

>

> **************Why pay full price? Check out this month's deals on the new

> AOL Shopping. (http://shopping.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntinstor00000001)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Having our Catholic faith and our Church has been invaluable-we couldn't

continue on with this battle if we didn't have God with us. Especially

Catholic school it has been a safe haven for our girls through all of this

nightmare.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:44 PM, ginloi <ginloi@...> wrote:

>

>

> Sharon -

>

> Catholic school make us like sharks...and able to " swim with the sharks "

> like we must now. I thank God, I got such a good basic education that has

> " carried me through life, " despite spending a good portion in " detention. "

>

> And helped us develop good instincts, I think.

>

> When I was first put in the moldy room, I knew something was wrong by the

> way they handled everything. When I would hang photographs of the 7 Wonders

> of the World and they got " damp and curled " I took out my camera to " record "

> it.

>

> Your " luck " served you well.

>

[Guest guest]

can we please keep what types or faith we have to ourselfs?

it has nothing to do with the topics here. even people of little faith can be

sharkly if they have a heart and care.

theres good and bad in all faiths, people.

>

> >

> >

> > Sharon -

> >

> > Catholic school make us like sharks...and able to " swim with the sharks "

> > like we must now. I thank God, I got such a good basic education that has

> > " carried me through life, " despite spending a good portion in " detention. "

> >

> > And helped us develop good instincts, I think.

=

[Guest guest]

-

That is in large part, very true. I have spent many years " vested " in education

and spent 10 years on a Catholic school

Advisory Board, keeping it " open " after 12 years in that School System.

I did get a " spartan " education back in the day when there were 50-60 kids in

the class.

If you can survive and learn in that environment, you can take on the " bullies "

that are " out there " looking to beat us all back, in my opinion. In high

school, Latin was a requirement at the time. 4 years. So the term " ubiquitous "

(as in mold) when thrown " at " me, did not " throw me. " I simply gave them the

old adage of " ubi, " meaning " everywhere " in Latin. The old joke. Semper Ubi

Sub Ubi.

(That one is for Sharon.!)

>

> Having our Catholic faith and our Church has been invaluable-we couldn't

> continue on with this battle if we didn't have God with us. Especially

> Catholic school it has been a safe haven for our girls through all of this

> nightmare.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are a number of posts coming in about religion that are not going to be

put through to group since there are too many personal differences we need to

respect.

>

> -

>

> That is in large part, very true. I have spent many years " vested " in

education and spent 10 years on a Catholic school