Re: Re: Does Aspergillus.... high iron in the blood - How Inflammation Slows Cures

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At 10:22 PM 4/18/2009, you wrote:

>My biotoxin savvy doctor told me that it was unsanitary conditions

>at the time of the biopsy and that nickel didn't have anything to do

>with fungi colonizing in my breast. Although I am extremely grateful

>to my doctor I humbly disagree with her. I now believe that metals

>act as conduits to pathogens and have the ability to carry

>infections through the body.

I want to chime in that I have similiar issues with some doctors

(many) whose training is

not current (2 CME's a year at 16 hours total does not cut it) in a

specialty area, and

I feel the doctor " should know this " , and not fake a knowledge level

they do not have,

especially they should not mistake their lack of knowledge (absence

of proof) as

proof of absence. It's clear malpractice, but I've had 15 doctors

out of 16 goof up.

Sorry, about that, off my soap box. You have to see a $300/hour doctor who got

straight A's in med school, and graduated in the last 4-5 years to

get current knowledge,

which is book training, and the books take time to write, so are 10

years out of date.

So, read the medical research, like many on this have been forced to

do, to save their

own quality of life, if not actual lives. Alright, my 2 cents.

What I wanted to post is there is an alternate scenario, which if not

the single source of

infection, certainly does contribute to allowing infections to grow.

The very air we breath is filled with tens to hundreds types of

germs. The immune system

handles many of them as these germ cells get into our moist tissue

(ears, nose, throat,

lungs, stomach, intestine, etc). It does this by sensing the

invader, and within 24 hours

the thymus is trained to create new MAST cells with new specialized

molecules just

for that one type of invader germ cell. This training lasts between

8 to 15 years or longer,

and is why one gets some childhood illnesses only once, and are

immune thereafter.

It's a well known mechanism, and the exact molecular details are

driving one of the

hottest segments of drug therapy, as well as establishing a basis of why

some homeopathy chemicals actually work by boosting the body's

natural abilities

to fend for itself.

Inflammation is the culprit I wish to type about now, and why

inflammation for the

last 3-5 years is finally getting the bad rap it should, and how

treating inflammation

greatly speeds healing, as there is a vicious feedback cycle that

results from swelling,

or rather it impedes the immune system's natural feedback levels to

release adequate

fighting molecules to ward off germs, to target that particular germ,

to kill it.

Inflammation slows down circulation. So, when the immune system senses a germ,

it also senses the " level " or magnitude of the infection, and

releases an appropriate

level of fighting molecules. A severe level, lots of germs floating

the blood stream

will have the thymus generate tons of MAST cells with the right chemicals to

kill off the infection. A low level of germs in the blood stream

results in fewer

MAST cells created. And this is the key, for a two way,

bidirectional reduction

that occurs.

First, inflammation slows the local circulation of blood to the infected area.

The blood has MAST cells releasing chemicals that pass through the blood

vessel wall membranes, entering the interstitial areas and cells outside the

blood vessel. These chemicals must then flow to the area of the infect near

the skin (or in an organ). It is this flow that is even more slow as there is

extra inflammation fluids surrounding the infection. So fighting molecules

do not get to a sufficiently high density at the germ colony site to kill

off the colony, and the colony grows in size, and new colonies occur inside

the inflamed area.

Keeping inflammation down is now a part of many treatments.

Vitamin C before and after surgery is likely responsible for cutting

the wound healing twice in half. Out of the hospital in 3 days, not 6.

Now, I said " two " ways. The germs also move around in the inflamed area,

and have to get into the blood stream for the immune system to sense them.

(Ok, this is not strictly true, but I am writing for the lay person,

and an expert

will see I have in many places simplified and in a few not included key points,

but never the less, it is accurate enough for the lay person to take action

to fight inflammation. Also, my time is limited to type.)

The fact that germs do not get rapidly to the immune system " senses " , means

the immune system senses a " lower level " of germs than really exist. So,

the immune system does not create an adequate level of MAST cells, which

do not release an adequate level of fighting molecules. That is the second

feedback mechanism that is hampered, allowing an infection to grow in

size, and take hold.

So, one can see these two mechanisms can be solely responsible for an infection

taking root. And one can see that this mechanism when combined with

the two points previously made by the two posters:

1) unsanitary conditions (hard to get all the germs out of the air, or

keep the inserting clean and regularly disinfected... as the disinfectants

they use are not good to get into a wound, unlike Tea Tree Oil or GSE

which are fine in a wound - in Australia they use TTO in hospitals)

2) Mineral availability (electrolytes) that assist the germs to make

new colonies where those electrolytes are localized for bodily

function reasons. (localized means allowed into cells that

use the mineral).

All three when taken together, and two that are easily fought (inflammation

and conditions) but are not, will result in a fast infection, an enduring

infection, hard to get rid of.

Per my typical posting style, to post not just information, but to post

the next step, treatment, something to do to fix the situation, so my

typing time is " effective " , there are some things to fight infections you

can do. And it works 90% of the time or so.

Instead of doing just " one active treatment " , like a prescribed drug,

read the book " Healthy Healing " , browse it in the bookstore as there

are just 2-4 pages you need, sometimes 30 pages - so buying the

book is a good thing - not many books go to 11+ editions, so you

know this book has to be VERY GOOD and worth $20).

This book will give 3, THREE, other things to join. When an infection

is attacked from 4 directions, a drug and 3 other treatments, that

infection is going to be gone within the month (in 90% of the cases, YMMV).

1) Diet changes and Superfoods (healing molecules targeting the illness)

2) Herbs and Supplements (more/extra healing molecules targeting the illness)

3) Life Style Support (move one's body to assist the cure)

>In recent research it was found that only a few bacterial species do

>not require iron for growth but it is believed that other metals are needed.

The rest of your post I found to be terrific, and leads me to a areas

of research I want to know more about. Thanks!