Re: ultimate exercise solution

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1 house and a big garage with an apartment above, a carport & a shed

for the riding lawnmower, pretty good deal huh? the house is a

manufactured home, we dont know if it can be financed yet as it just

hit the 20 year age mark. there's a lot of rules about manufactured

homes and our mortgage broker is checking on it for us.

ah sounds like the kid of home, imight be out of luck with reading.

laurie

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> > i love labs, my sister has a huge lab, he's a big buffoon and

loveable

> > but will knock you over with his tail when he turns around. my

> > neighbors have 2 dogs that are part lab & part pit bull and the lab

> > nature has come out in both dogs.

> >

> > went at looked a 1.5 acre property today, we're calling the mortgage

> > broker on monday to see what she says.

> >

> > laurie

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Hope it works out for you, Laurie.

Elaine

1 house and a big garage with an apartment above, a carport & a shedfor the riding lawnmower, pretty good deal huh? the house is amanufactured home, we dont know if it can be financed yet as it justhit the 20 year age mark. there's a lot of rules about manufactured

homes and our mortgage broker is checking on it for us.ah sounds like the kid of home, imight be out of luck with reading.laurie

> >> > i love labs, my sister has a huge lab, he's a big buffoon andloveable> > but will knock you over with his tail when he turns around. my> > neighbors have 2 dogs that are part lab & part pit bull and the lab

> > nature has come out in both dogs.> >> > went at looked a 1.5 acre property today, we're calling the mortgage> > broker on monday to see what she says.> >> > laurie

> > .> >> > > >>

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the world is in dire need of middle of the road people who can help

temper the extremists on the sides of our issues. you do a great

service for animals by standing for the middle ground.

laurie

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I have considered backing off from my

> breed club, but I believe if there are ever going to be changes

there need to be

> people on the inside with my views and the few people who share

them have

> asked me not to leave. So I continue on and my presence and that

of a couple of

> other people prevent the AKC views from being touted in our online

group.

> Oh well, such is life. lol

>

> Janet

>

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Some egg factories are moving away from battery cages for other

reasons as well. the more chickens, the closer they are caged, the

more preventative medicine they have to be given and the more risk of

the spread of avian illnesses. Hopefully we will see less and less of

such chicken farming with the increased education of every day people

from those like you who are keeping informed.

laurie

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> ,

>

> Most eggs in this country come from battery caged chickens. They

are kept,

> normally, in the dark, in crowded cages where for their entire life

they have

> less space than an 8X11 sheet of paper. Their beaks are burned off

when

> they are chicks so they cannot kill each other. They live their

whole lives

> without being able to stretch out their wings. Now there is a huge

movement to

> do something about this (something like 150 college campuses

nationwide have

> banned battery caged chicken eggs). Unfortunately there is very

little

> regulation about labeling. Range Free means that they are supposed

to have some

> access to the outdoors, though how much is not specified. Cage free

means

> they are kept in sheds and are not confined to tiny cages so they

can at least

> stretch out their wings. Certified Humane is supposed to be a step

better I

> hear, but once again, very little regulation.

>

> I am blessed in that I live so close to Raleigh and we have a

WONDERFUL

> farmers market there. I buy my eggs from a nurse I work with whose

son has

> chickens that roam their yard and when they are not laying I get

them at the

> farmers market. You can also get hormone and antibiotic free meat

there that is

> raised on local farms. In our area there are several farms where

animals are

> raised humanely on sustainable farms and you can go there and buy

meat from

> them.

>

> Unfortunately however, I do buy meat from the grocery store because

of the

> dogs. I feed them raw meat daily and I can't afford to go the

farmers market

> route for them, though I do buy them antibiotic and hormone free

chicken.

> All I can do to make myself feel better about that is to continue

to try to

> change things for the animals in all factory farms!

>

> Oh, and some of my best dogs have come from back yard breeders

also. I

> would not buy a GSD at this point because of what has happened to

the breed,

> unless I could get one from Germany. Fortunately, with Griffs

being rare they

> have not been too overbred. All the other animals around here find

their way

> here on their own so their lineage is not much of an issue lol

>

> Janet

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I will keep my fingers crossed that it works out for you with the house. Keep us posted, Laurie.

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1 house and a big garage with an apartment above, a carport & a shedfor the riding lawnmower, pretty good deal huh? the house is amanufactured home, we dont know if it can be financed yet as it justhit the 20 year age mark. there's a lot of rules about manufacturedhomes and our mortgage broker is checking on it for us.ah sounds like the kid of home, imight be out of luck with reading.laurie> >> > i love labs, my sister has a huge lab, he's a big buffoon andloveable> > but will knock you over with his tail when he turns around. my> > neighbors have 2 dogs that are part lab & part pit bull and the lab> > nature has come out in both dogs.> >> > went at looked a 1.5 acre property today, we're calling the mortgage> > broker on monday to see what she says.> >> > laurie> > .> >> > > >>

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my cat is not a good hunter, but once and a while he does manage to

catch a mouse and he holds a grudge when i take it away. the mouse

always lives because he doesnt actually like to kill things, he just

catches them. i'm glad, i dont like seeing things killed. i always

let the mice go under the mulch pile.

laurie

> >

> > my cat caught a mouse in the condo and had a wonderful time playing

> > with it and she cried when it stopped moving. we threw it out and

she cried

> > and looked for another one. cyndy

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that is the same reason why students began protesting in the 60s, no

one was taking notice of what was going on and they were trying to get

peoples attention.

whether or not they paid attention would also depend on what else they

had to report.

Bill Gates stepped down and with all the election hub-bub, i didnt

even hear a thing about it. I read 1 article on the internet adn was

shocked I hadn't heard about it. I finally heard it mentioned mostly

as an 'aside' on one news channel. it wasn't even big news compared

to the ratings the news can get by covering the election.

laurie

>

> , taking action is a great idea. At the time the supervisors were

> taking a vote to kill (via the pound) the cats in Santa Clara County, I

>

> If we wrote our local papers without a controversy going on at the

moment,

> locally, would anyone pay attention, do you think?

>

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our problem here is mud & drainage. we can have great grass, but you

have to have a big enough pasture that you can rotate the animals or

they end up knee deep in mud during the rainy season.

an animal group just removed a bunch of horses from a lady a couple

days ago because she didn't have any where mud free in her small

pasture where the horses could be.

i was actually surprised they were able to take any action.

laurie

>

> Way to go, Janet. For a horse or cow to attract attention in

Mississippi as neclected, it has to down and near death. I watch

" Animal Cops Houston " and see seized horses in conditions that would

be generally called " pretty good shape " here. We have lots of grass,

but the soil is not very good and parasites, in this semitropical

climate, are rampant, so any animal turned out to exist on the typical

pasture, is probably not going to do well. Many fields that look

green really have very little real grass, and would probably not

support anything but goats, if that. I have tried to educate people

on this, but if it is an inconvenient truth, they ignore it. I can

only keep trying.

> W

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> In a message dated 1/8/2008 2:10:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

labtrek1941@... writes:

> write, so why don't each of us write our local newspapers and

see who gets

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>

> One of my New Years resolutions is to make more of a difference

for animals in North Carolina. I could work on that by subscribing to

one of our local newspapers and getting involved in animals issues.

>

> Janet

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For instance you can find a dog on a property being starved and neglected in every way, and the property owner can say, "That is not my dog." and that is the end of that

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In my opinion, this is why the laws need to be toughed and enforced. In many states there is no such thing as felony animal cruelty. I think these people, and yet people are doing massive amounts of time for possession of marijuana. I don't personally care if someone smokes a joint (as long as they are not in a profession which could cause a danger to people and testing for that should be the job of the company). I would much rather have my tax money spent to put people in prison who are responsible for cruelty to animals

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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have tried to educate people on this, but if it is an inconvenient truth, they ignore it. I can only keep trying.

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I spent 14 years in Alabama and my experience with animal welfare down there was not good. Now, I have a friend who runs a rescue organization in the state of Misery (Missouri), which is by far the worst puppy mill state in the country, and I figure if that brave soul can do such incredible work there, then I can at least do what I can in North Carolina. I do what I can to support the HSUS and SPCA, but one of my New Years resolutions is to do a lot more for the animals in North Carolina because I believe that every cause should be fought on a local level.

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Amen! A cruel person is cruel across the board. Any one capable of being cruel to an animal has the propensity to be cruel to anyone unable to speak up for or defend himself. Would you trust a baby or small child to someone who did not treat their pet well? Such a person is guided not by self imposed standards but by what they can get away with. They are a danger to anyone or anything they can victimize.

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In a message dated 1/8/2008 2:18:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, labtrek1941bellsouth (DOT) net writes:

For instance you can find a dog on a property being starved and neglected in every way, and the property owner can say, "That is not my dog." and that is the end of that

,

In my opinion, this is why the laws need to be toughed and enforced. In many states there is no such thing as felony animal cruelty. I think these people, and yet people are doing massive amounts of time for possession of marijuana. I don't personally care if someone smokes a joint (as long as they are not in a profession which could cause a danger to people and testing for that should be the job of the company). I would much rather have my tax money spent to put people in prison who are responsible for cruelty to animals

Janet

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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temper the extremists on the sides of our issues. you do a greatservice for animals by standing for the middle ground.

Thank you Laurie!

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Hopefully we will see less and less ofsuch chicken farming with the increased education of every day peoplefrom those like you who are keeping informed

Laurie,

I was in Lowe's foods yesterday and their store brand eggs were on sale. I was delighted to see that the ones that had sold out were the cage free eggs, even though they were the more expensive ones!

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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my cat is not a good hunter, but once and a while he does manage tocatch a mouse and he holds a grudge when i take it away

Oliver (my cat) catches mice and moles and that is fine with me because keeping them down encourages the Copperheads to go elsewhere. He does not bother the birds because I got rid of the birdfeeders (also to get rid of the Copperheads) and only have hummingbird feeders, which he cannot get near. I figure that doing what we can to keep the snakes off the property is our mutual job.

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Bill Gates stepped down and with all the election hub-bub, i didnteven hear a thing about it.

Laurie,

I think Bill and his wife have been planning to donate all of their time to their foundation

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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y what they can get away with. They are a danger to anyone or anything they

I agree . I do not believe that anyone can be cruel to animals and only kind to humans - and that includes the research scientists who conduct these experiments that are supposed to be for the good of humanity.

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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An evil act just cannot be justified by need or circumstances to me. A person or a country has standards and integrity or it does not. Sorry for getting, maybe, a little too far off topic, but this refers not just to animal testing, but also to torturing a person for information. In my mind, when we do this, or it is done in our name, it changes who we are. This issue is the one thing that makes me saddest and drains away my hope for a better world.

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In a message dated 1/10/2008 5:27:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, labtrek1941bellsouth (DOT) net writes:

y what they can get away with. They are a danger to anyone or anything they

I agree . I do not believe that anyone can be cruel to animals and only kind to humans - and that includes the research scientists who conduct these experiments that are supposed to be for the good of humanity.

Janet

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evil act just cannot be justified by need or circumstances to me. A person or a country has standards and integrity or it does not.

How in fact, can we claim to be the leader of the free world and then exhibit standards we are supposed to condemn. We indeed lower ourselves when we resort to methods such as torture, and we have no right to condemn others who practice it when we do it ourselves. When Americans are tortured by our enemies, we need to remember that we put the stamp of approval on the practice.

JanetStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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i've been really impressed with their foundation. i wish them loads

of success.

laurie

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>

> In a message dated 1/9/2008 11:37:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> spamthekat@... writes:

>

> Bill Gates stepped down and with all the election hub-bub, i didnt

> even hear a thing about it.

>

>

> Laurie,

>

> I think Bill and his wife have been planning to donate all of their

time to

> their foundation

>

> Janet

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>