Re: Fw: Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

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Apologies, that was rubbish of me - I should have withheld the name and said see below.

son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Hi ,

How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.

The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.

Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see?

Cheers,

[Guest guest]

Blackthorn is reknowned for causing problems, if even a small amount gets left

in the skin.

I got this on a Google search.

http://web.jbjs.org.uk/content/48-B/3/474.full.pdf

Regards

Maggie MacMillan

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Blackthorn thorns often turn septic as it is hard to get all of the thorn out.

 

Apologies, that was rubbish of me - I should have withheld the name and said see below.

son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.uk

www.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Hi ,

How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.

The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.

Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see? 

Cheers,

-- Best MIIMH, MNIMHMedical HerbalistAn Páircín Clinic of Herbal MedicineStacksmountain

Kilflynn

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Just wondered if there was a little fragment of buckthorn in the patients ankle. In the past with this problem I have used both green clay and slippery elm poultices, both have worked well, in extracting the thorn. Tina.Alder.

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Subject: Re: Fw: Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Blackthorn thorns often turn septic as it is hard to get all of the thorn out.

Apologies, that was rubbish of me - I should have withheld the name and said see below.

son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Hi ,

How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.

The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.

Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see?

Cheers,

--

Best MIIMH, MNIMHMedical HerbalistAn Páircín Clinic of Herbal MedicineStacksmountain

Kilflynn

TraleeCo Kerry00353 66 7132461

00353 86 1939217VAT Reg No: IE 7005782VWebsite: www.kerryherbalist.comBlog: christinebest.wordpress.com

Now on Facebook ' Herbalistix Herbal Medicine in Tralee'

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Thank you for such quick response! - have recommended magnesium sulphate in the absence of marshmallow - as drawing ointment and a footbath, and to ring at the least hint of any tracking..

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son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Hi ,

How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.

The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.

Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see?

Cheers,

--

Best MIIMH, MNIMHMedical HerbalistAn Páircín Clinic of Herbal MedicineStacksmountain

Kilflynn

TraleeCo Kerry00353 66 7132461

00353 86 1939217VAT Reg No: IE 7005782VWebsite: www.kerryherbalist.comBlog: christinebest.wordpress.com

Now on Facebook ' Herbalistix Herbal Medicine in Tralee'

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Hi ,Blackthorns produce a very small amount of an essential oil that can lead, even in minute quantities, to terminal damage INSIDE the joint capsule of some farm animals, notably horses, where it is a matter of some economic concern with sport horses. I have no idea if this happens with humans (doubt it or it would be better understood) and also from Rosie's description doubt that she has penetrated the actual capsule. But it seems possible that this obscure oil may have set up an inflammatory reaction out of all apparent proportion to the amount involved. Glad to hear it's going down gradually.

 

Am going to reply to this e-mail - but is there anyone in Essex who can pick this up?

And out of interest, is there something about Blackthorn I don't know about - or is this likely to be an ordinary idiosyncratic histamine response?

 

melissa

 

son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk

07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

Hi ,

How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.

The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.

Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see? 

Cheers,

Rosie

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Hi

Ther are 2 of us near Upminster at the Willow Herbal Centre Harold Wood.

My colleague susan koten and myself Jacqui Apostolides/Fordham (take your pick I

use both surnames!)

I only work wednesdays now due to our Broad Oak Herb farm taking all of my time.

But other days is around. Call 01708 381 478

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> Am going to reply to this e-mail - but is there anyone in Essex who can pick

this up?

> And out of interest, is there something about Blackthorn I don't know about -

or is this likely to be an ordinary idiosyncratic histamine response?

>

> melissa

>

> son BSc(hons) MNIMH

> @...

> www.herbalbarge.co.uk

> www.herbalsnuff.co.uk

> 07736966197

> Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

>

>

> Hi ,

> How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

> I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a

Blackthorn on Saturday.

> The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can

recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take

days of Work.

>

>

> Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see?

> Cheers,

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, very commonly causes problems, many tales here (Mid wales) of

people losing fingers when they neglected blackthorn injuries. Often

" goes bad " they say, and cite a poison as cause. Vigilance essential

best wishes.

Sally

> Hi

>

> Ther are 2 of us near Upminster at the Willow Herbal Centre Harold

> Wood.

>

> My colleague susan koten and myself Jacqui Apostolides/Fordham (take

> your pick I use both surnames!)

>

> I only work wednesdays now due to our Broad Oak Herb farm taking all

> of my time. But other days is around. Call 01708 381 478

>

> -- In ukherbal-list , " " wrote:

>>

>> Am going to reply to this e-mail - but is there anyone in Essex who

>> can pick this up?

>> And out of interest, is there something about Blackthorn I don't

>> know about - or is this likely to be an ordinary idiosyncratic

>> histamine response?

>>

>> melissa

>>

>> son BSc(hons) MNIMH

>> @...

>> www.herbalbarge.co.uk

>> www.herbalsnuff.co.uk

>> 07736966197

>> Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

>>

>>

>> Hi ,

>> How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

>> I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by

>> a Blackthorn on Saturday.

>> The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if

>> you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it

>> and am having to take days of Work.

>>

>>

>> Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could

>> see?

>> Cheers,

>> Rosie

>>

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[Guest guest]

Hya Jacqui, cheers for this , will pass details on

melissa

son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197

Blackthorn Poisoning help!!> > > Hi ,> How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.> I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.> The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.> > > Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see? > Cheers,> Rosie>

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Hi

Just out of interest is Allshorn still practising, she used to be based in Upminster?Graham White, B.Sc. (Herb. Med.)Medical Herbalist--------------------------------Phone: 01438 213284Mobile: 07740 766335www.gcwhite.co.uk>> Am going to reply to this e-mail - but is there anyone in Essex who can pick this up?> And out of interest, is there something about Blackthorn I don't know about - or is this likely to be an ordinary idiosyncratic histamine response?> > melissa> > son BSc(hons) MNIMH> @...>

www.herbalbarge.co.uk> www.herbalsnuff.co.uk> 07736966197> Blackthorn Poisoning help!!> > > Hi ,> How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.> I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a Blackthorn on Saturday.> The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having to take days of Work.> > > Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see? > Cheers,> Rosie>

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i've had a lot of experience of scratches, pricks, etc from

blackthorn/slow thorns going 'bad' - learnt to take care of them early

on (in childhood, through teens and early adulthood) - always good to

check nothing left in there, as well as to clean the wound. i think i

used to 'get away with' simply washing my hands (tended to be where i

got scratched) in a sink full of warm water with e.g. tea tree EO added.

i've probably successfully applied lavendar EO neat before. the fact

that i've not needed to treat this recently, suggests i've learnt to

take more care around blackthorn in adulthood

sounds like this goes a little deeper tho. i think there's already been

a suggestion re drawing out the thorn. could equally draw the infection.

i'd probably mix a bit of myrrh and slippery elm powders and apply - as

a paste if the wound is dry, as powder if the wound is wet. tbh, i often

find myrrh powder applied to a wound that's not healing as quick/as well

as would like effective - used it recently post-surgery. might do the

trick on its own - the myrrh healing/cleansing, and the fact that it's a

powder being enough to draw the wound a bit if it's wet. sounds like

there's quite some inflammation - might be good to cool/soothe it a bit.

best,

eirwen

enfield

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> Am going to reply to this e-mail - but is there anyone in Essex who can

> pick this up?

> And out of interest, is there something about Blackthorn I don't know

> about - or is this likely to be an ordinary idiosyncratic histamine

> response?

>

> melissa

>

> son BSc(hons) MNIMH

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> www.herbalsnuff.co.uk <http://www.herbalsnuff.co.uk>

> 07736966197

> * Blackthorn Poisoning help!!

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> Hi ,

> How are you doing? Hope all is going well on Storm Vogel.

> I am just writing as my ankle is swelled up since it was pierced by a

> Blackthorn on Saturday.

> The swelling is going down gradually but i was just wondering if you can

> recommend anything to help as I can't actually walk on it and am having

> to take days of Work.

>

> Do you know of any herbalists in my area (Upminster, Essex) i could see?

> Cheers,

> Rosie

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