Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Hi All, I had this discussion once with Marty a few years back. I have a large lab mix dog who is 7 yrs old, will be 8 July 1st..he eats all table food, I feed him pedigree dog food dry, with left overs, he eats onions, cooked, b/s I cook onions in vegetables, he eats, pot roast, steak, chicken, cooked salmon, and other fish like Dover sole, shrimp, cooked veggies, rice, beans, and he eats grapes, my grapes from the vine, he also eats apples from my trees. If these fruits drop he will devour them, he loves strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, any berry, blackberries. To me he is like a bear or wolf, I believe wolves and bears will eat apples, and they defiantly eat berries.Now raisins I have seen him eat raisins that are dried up on the grape vines at my house. He doesn't like olives, or bananas, he likes pears from my trees that fall, ripe or not he doesn't care. He is a healthy mutt, as a matter of fact my son trained the dog to sit by giving him our grapes for rewards. So go figure?Chocolate is something I wouldn't give him, nor any sugary foods, no baked cookies etc..though my husband does give him oreos occasionally, and graham crackers to my protesting does no good, he gives it to him anyway. and Oreos are a chocolate cookie.Why would any one give their dog coffee or tea is beyond me, unless the dog gets into the garbage?My cats and I have 5, dont eat table scraps much, only one does she likes chicken and turkey, and tuna a lot, and all my animals are happy and healthy. I do know that raw fish can cause salmonella so I wouldn't give this to any of my pets. Oh and my dog does eat the seeds of the apples too, he is fine, if he gets the apples from the ground, he wont give it up. Also I have given my dog raw eggs sometimes never saw him sick from it, and I did have a cat for 18 yrs that ate a raw egg almost every day, I saw it shine up her coat. So I can't agree with everything this article is saying, but it must be coming from a vet licensed doctor. Maybe most animals are allergic to these foods, but what can I say, mine aren't.My vet told me that dogs are mostly allergic to corn, and that is in dry dog food, so he told me to avoid it. But that is hard to do. I tried giving my cat raw steak the other day, he only turned up his nose and walked away. Dr Mercola does speak about cats and dogs need raw meat, so I tried. They do eat raw meat in the wild though, mice, birds, whatever flutters their way, may be the kill is what gets their juices flowing, better than being fed it as it is dead.Thanks for reading MicheleFrom: Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...>Subject: [ ] What human foods are good and are not good for dogs. Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:07 PM you made me search. Lol! When you mentioned feeding salmon (which I am sure the company cooked it :-) ), I remembered my vet telling me 35 years ago that fish was not good for cats. It creates a blockage in the urinary tract. Anyway, I was trying to find some info on that and found this. I had heard onions were not good for pets, but garlic is. Hmmm. http://www.starbree zes.com/11/ foodsafe. html UPDATE: Certain types of raw fish have been found to be extremely unsafe for dogs. They contain a microorganism that affects and kills dogs, but not humans or other animals. Salmon in particular is a danger but other types of fish carry the bacteria as well. DO NOT feed your dog raw fish! While dogs can eat some of the same foods that we do, there are many they should not eat. Some common foods you may have around your house could kill your dog in the right amount. Some foods dogs should not eatIf your dog has ingested any of these foods, get veterinary help immediatelyGrapes and Raisins: Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill a dogOnions: Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia. Chocolate: Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous. Coffee, Coffee grounds, tea and tea bags: Drinks/foods containing caffeine cause many of the same symptoms chocolate causesMacadamia Nuts: Macadamia nuts can cause weakness, muscle tremor and paralysis. Animal fat and fried foods: Excessive fat can cause pancreatitis. Bones: Bones can splinter and damage a dog’s internal organs. Tomatoes: Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomatoe plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe.Avocados: The fruit, pit and plant are all toxic. They can cause difficulty breathing and fluid accumulation in the chest, abdomen and heart Nutmeg: Nutmeg can cause tremors, seizures and death Apples, Cherries, Peaches and similar fruit: The seeds of these fruits contain cyanide, which is poisonous to dogs as well as humans. Unlike humans, dogs do not know to stop eating at the core/pit and easily ingest them. Raw eggs: Raw eggs can cause salmonella poisoning in dogs. Dogs have a shorter digestive tract than humans and are not as likely to suffer from food poisoning, but it is still possible. Salt: Excessive salt intake can cause kidney problems. Food that most dogs can eat: Some “human†foods are good for dogs. Most of these are healthier than the boxed treats you buy in the grocery store. . This is just a small list of examples of foods dogs can eat, not a list of every food they should eat. Dogs won’t necessarily get all the nutrients they need if they eat these foods exclusively, so check with your veterinarian if you are interested in feeding your dog a home cooked diet. Any food that causes stomach upsets or digestive problems in your dogs should be avoided. Like people, some dogs cannot tolerate certain foods even if they are considered "safe". Meats:Meats should be boneless and it’s best if the skin is removed. I don’t consider raw meat a good idea because of the small risk of food poisoning and parasites. Skinless, boneless chicken breastSkinless, boneless turkey breastBoneless fishBeef Liver Chicken LiversVegetables:Dogs have shorter digestive tracts than humans and cannot digest most vegetables whole or in large chunks. It’s best to put them through a food processor before giving them to your dogCarrots Green BeansLettucePotatoesYamsRed and green bell peppers Grains:Grains should not be given in large amounts or make up a large part of a dog’s diet, but these foods are generally safe in small amountsRice Bread OatsDairy productsUse caution with dairy products as they are high in fat and can cause pancreatitis, gas and diarrhea. Usually, nonfat plain yogurt is safe in small amountsLinksWhat Not To Feed Your DogUrban HoundHuman Foods that Poison PetsFoods Which are Toxic to DogsOnions are Toxic to Dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 yup its cooked LOL Keep rosemary by your garden gate. Plant roses and lavender for luck. Fall in love whenever you can.~ Practical Magic From: Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...>Subject: [ ] What human foods are good and are not good for dogs. Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 4:07 PM you made me search. Lol! When you mentioned feeding salmon (which I am sure the company cooked it :-) ), I remembered my vet telling me 35 years ago that fish was not good for cats. It creates a blockage in the urinary tract. Anyway, I was trying to find some info on that and found this. I had heard onions were not good for pets, but garlic is. Hmmm. http://www.starbree zes.com/11/ foodsafe. html UPDATE: Certain types of raw fish have been found to be extremely unsafe for dogs. They contain a microorganism that affects and kills dogs, but not humans or other animals. Salmon in particular is a danger but other types of fish carry the bacteria as well. DO NOT feed your dog raw fish! While dogs can eat some of the same foods that we do, there are many they should not eat. Some common foods you may have around your house could kill your dog in the right amount. Some foods dogs should not eatIf your dog has ingested any of these foods, get veterinary help immediatelyGrapes and Raisins: Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill a dogOnions: Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia. Chocolate: Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous. Coffee, Coffee grounds, tea and tea bags: Drinks/foods containing caffeine cause many of the same symptoms chocolate causesMacadamia Nuts: Macadamia nuts can cause weakness, muscle tremor and paralysis. Animal fat and fried foods: Excessive fat can cause pancreatitis. Bones: Bones can splinter and damage a dog’s internal organs. Tomatoes: Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomatoe plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe.Avocados: The fruit, pit and plant are all toxic. They can cause difficulty breathing and fluid accumulation in the chest, abdomen and heart Nutmeg: Nutmeg can cause tremors, seizures and death Apples, Cherries, Peaches and similar fruit: The seeds of these fruits contain cyanide, which is poisonous to dogs as well as humans. Unlike humans, dogs do not know to stop eating at the core/pit and easily ingest them. Raw eggs: Raw eggs can cause salmonella poisoning in dogs. Dogs have a shorter digestive tract than humans and are not as likely to suffer from food poisoning, but it is still possible. Salt: Excessive salt intake can cause kidney problems. Food that most dogs can eat: Some “human†foods are good for dogs. Most of these are healthier than the boxed treats you buy in the grocery store. . This is just a small list of examples of foods dogs can eat, not a list of every food they should eat. Dogs won’t necessarily get all the nutrients they need if they eat these foods exclusively, so check with your veterinarian if you are interested in feeding your dog a home cooked diet. Any food that causes stomach upsets or digestive problems in your dogs should be avoided. Like people, some dogs cannot tolerate certain foods even if they are considered "safe". Meats:Meats should be boneless and it’s best if the skin is removed. I don’t consider raw meat a good idea because of the small risk of food poisoning and parasites. Skinless, boneless chicken breastSkinless, boneless turkey breastBoneless fishBeef Liver Chicken LiversVegetables:Dogs have shorter digestive tracts than humans and cannot digest most vegetables whole or in large chunks. It’s best to put them through a food processor before giving them to your dogCarrots Green BeansLettucePotatoesYamsRed and green bell peppers Grains:Grains should not be given in large amounts or make up a large part of a dog’s diet, but these foods are generally safe in small amountsRice Bread OatsDairy productsUse caution with dairy products as they are high in fat and can cause pancreatitis, gas and diarrhea. Usually, nonfat plain yogurt is safe in small amountsLinksWhat Not To Feed Your DogUrban HoundHuman Foods that Poison PetsFoods Which are Toxic to DogsOnions are Toxic to Dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Hi Mist, I didnt know that raw hide was soaked in arsnic, when I told my husband he was upset, that is awful, I always wondered about that? I do give my dog rawhide chips and bones. I did this all his life, this helped him not chew the furniture too, when he was a pup. he gets all sorts of sticks outside to chew on, he loves to be outdoors, of course unless we are inside, then he wants to be inside with us and cries. I had many kitty litters in the past, and I used to feed all my cats and kitties raw eggs with milk because I didn't have enough money to feed them dry food. This goes back in 1988. I had many litters of kitties, as my cat kept on getting pregnant before we could spay her. They were all healthy too. My parents used to buy my dogs lamp shanks, at the time in the 1970's this was cheap, I had two siberian husky's, but now these are not so cheap, so I don't get them, beef/pork bones, and you cook them, I should check this out, that is very helpful, thank you for posting this information. I appreciate it. Blessings, Michele > > > > Hi All, > > I had this discussion once with Marty a few years back. I have a large lab mix dog who is 7 yrs old, will be 8 July 1st..he eats all table food, I feed him pedigree dog food dry, with left overs, he eats onions, cooked, b/s I cook onions in vegetables, he eats, pot roast, steak, chicken, cooked salmon, and other fish like Dover sole, shrimp, cooked veggies, rice, beans, and he eats grapes, my grapes from the vine, he also eats apples from my trees. If these fruits drop he will devour them, he loves strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, any berry, blackberries. To me he is like a bear or wolf, I believe wolves and bears will eat apples, and they defiantly eat berries. > > Now raisins I have seen him eat raisins that are dried up on the grape vines at my house. He doesn't like olives, or bananas, he likes pears from my trees that fall, ripe or not he doesn't care. He is a healthy mutt, as a matter of fact my son trained the dog to sit by giving him our grapes for rewards. So go figure? > > Chocolate is something I wouldn't give him, nor any sugary foods, no baked cookies etc..though my husband does give him oreos occasionally, and graham crackers to my protesting does no good, he gives it to him anyway. and Oreos are a chocolate cookie. > > Why would any one give their dog coffee or tea is beyond me, unless the dog gets into the garbage? > > My cats and I have 5, dont eat table scraps much, only one does she likes chicken and turkey, and tuna a lot, and all my animals are happy and healthy. > > I do know that raw fish can cause salmonella so I wouldn't give this to any of my pets. > > Oh and my dog does eat the seeds of the apples too, he is fine, if he gets the apples from the ground, he wont give it up. Also I have given my dog raw eggs sometimes never saw him sick from it, and I did have a cat for 18 yrs that ate a raw egg almost every day, I saw it shine up her coat. > > So I can't agree with everything this article is saying, but it must be coming from a vet licensed doctor. Maybe most animals are allergic to these foods, but what can I say, mine aren't. > > My vet told me that dogs are mostly allergic to corn, and that is in dry dog food, so he told me to avoid it. But that is hard to do. > > I tried giving my cat raw steak the other day, he only turned up his nose and walked away. Dr Mercola does speak about cats and dogs need raw meat, so I tried. They do eat raw meat in the wild though, mice, birds, whatever flutters their way, may be the kill is what gets their juices flowing, better than being fed it as it is dead. > > Thanks for reading > > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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