Guest guest Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. Thanks.n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 elderberry extract seems to work well. Marilena. To: ukherbal-list From: marian@...Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:29:31 +0000Subject: Re: Flu in pregnancy Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. Thanks. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 You could think about using herbal snuff - it may only be symptomatic, - but it takes the worry of pregnancy contra-indications. ( having said that, I did find a fantastic 18th century reference to midwives using snuff to expel the placenta!) But I also wouldn't feel worried ( depending on history )of prescribing elderberry and Echinacea and marshmallow. And chest rubs externally. And marshmallow (powder ideally) with calendula in muslin to use in the bath. son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197 Re: Flu in pregnancy Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. Thanks. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I would have thought that constituents of herbal snuff could cross the nasal mucosa and be absorbed directly into the bloodstream, bypassing hepatic screening. Therefore I think you would still have to avoid any herbs that are contraindicated in pregnancy.However, there are still plenty of antiviral and symptomatic herbs you can safely use in pregnancy. You could think about using herbal snuff - it may only be symptomatic, - but it takes the worry of pregnancy contra-indications. ( having said that, I did find a fantastic 18th century reference to midwives using snuff to expel the placenta!) But I also wouldn't feel worried ( depending on history )of prescribing elderberry and Echinacea and marshmallow. And chest rubs externally. And marshmallow (powder ideally) with calendula in muslin to use in the bath. son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197 Re: Flu in pregnancy Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. Thanks. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd be inclined to agree with Aine, as I have always understood that administering herbs via the nasal, buccal, rectal or vaginal mucosa (have I missed any?) enabled by-passing of the liver and so can theoretically deliver a more potent dose. How about teas? Nice, warming, getting plenty of fluid in - Achillea, , Sambucus, Tilia to promote sweating and help elimination? > > > > > You could think about using herbal snuff - it may only be symptomatic, - but it takes the worry of pregnancy contra-indications. ( having said that, I did find a fantastic 18th century reference to midwives using snuff to expel the placenta!) > > But I also wouldn't feel worried ( depending on history )of prescribing elderberry and Echinacea and marshmallow. And chest rubs externally. > > And marshmallow (powder ideally) with calendula in muslin to use in the bath. > > > > > > > > > > son BSc(hons) MNIMH > > @... > > www.herbalbarge.co.uk > > www.herbalsnuff.co.uk > > 07736966197 > > Re: Flu in pregnancy > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. > > > > > > Thanks. > > n > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Actualy I would agree too - Sorry . I think I wrote that because the specific snuff I had in mind contained all herbs that I woudln't be concerned about giving in pregnancy, and also have a good topical local effect - Althea, Sambucus, Echinacea, Eyebright etc.. The issue of delivering herbs directly to the blood stream, by passing the digestion, is obviously a subject I find facinating, but frustratingly unchartered. My guess it is much more complicated than simply potentiating the dose -some herbs will need the liver to make them bio-available - others could be be significantly stronger were one able to ingest significant quantities - what happens to MAOIs without the liver for example? Have been prescribing hypericum baths ever since I heard a story about Saint. Columbo, on arriving in Scotland from Ireland, made a st 's wort poultice for a sad shepherd boy to put under his left armpit - so far no patients with dramatic reactions! Have gone off topic - but would love to understand this more... son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197 Re: Flu in pregnancy> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. > > > > > > Thanks.> > n> > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for your replies Marilena, Aine, Alison and . I need to get myself a book on herbs in pregnancy to improve my knowledge. I have advised her not to gargle with goldenseal but she is doing it anyway. Interesting re the SJW poultice (why the left armpit in particular?) Have you had good results with the hypericum baths?n Actualy I would agree too - Sorry . I think I wrote that because the specific snuff I had in mind contained all herbs that I woudln't be concerned about giving in pregnancy, and also have a good topical local effect - Althea, Sambucus, Echinacea, Eyebright etc.. The issue of delivering herbs directly to the blood stream, by passing the digestion, is obviously a subject I find facinating, but frustratingly unchartered. My guess it is much more complicated than simply potentiating the dose -some herbs will need the liver to make them bio-available - others could be be significantly stronger were one able to ingest significant quantities - what happens to MAOIs without the liver for example? Have been prescribing hypericum baths ever since I heard a story about Saint. Columbo, on arriving in Scotland from Ireland, made a st 's wort poultice for a sad shepherd boy to put under his left armpit - so far no patients with dramatic reactions! Have gone off topic - but would love to understand this more... son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197 Re: Flu in pregnancy> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. > > > > > > Thanks.> > n> > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 No idear why left armpit! - A Irish herbalist told me the story round a campfire, when we were doing herbal first aid, one rainy ish festival.. Re the hypericum baths - is hard to say.Can't say that have dramatically positive results - but wouldn't really expect that. Folk like taking them, and I have begun to integrate them as a standard winter anti-viral and mood strategy. Beware the orange baths afterwards -is surprisingly hard to get off, though fades with time! son BSc(hons) MNIMH@...www.herbalbarge.co.ukwww.herbalsnuff.co.uk07736966197 Re: Flu in pregnancy> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas for friend who is 3 months pregnant and is suffering flu symptoms - chest congestion, cough, runny nose, sinus pain, sore throat. She is having a very miserable time as also suffers from interstitial cystitis. > > > > > > Thanks.> > n> > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.