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my sisters black lab is bred by a guy who breeds them as bird

retrievers and he breeds them big, tall and sweet. my sisters dog is

just huge.

there's a breeder here who cross breeds black labs with great danes,

my sisters dog would have been a good choice for them because this guy

is already huge.

the 1/2 breeds are really sweet big dogs. i would love to have one

some day.

laurie

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> I think that may have been the case at one time, Janet, but now it

has more to do with the purpose for which the line is bred. The

breeder we bought Radar from had lived in England and brought all of

his breeding stock back with him. They were all field trial

competitors in England. They are keen, hyper types with the flash and

dash to win in field trial competition, and totally focused on doing a

job. Robin, on the other hand, while he goes back to English stock

several generations back, was bred for looks and disposition and is

laid back. In obedience classes as a puppy, he would go to sleep if

not working, while Radar would be watching the instructor while she

was working another puppy, and obeying her instructions behind her

back. Robin, who is less " English " has the massive head and proper

otter tail so looks more stocky, but Radar is more muscular, in part

because he uses himself so much more. They are the same height and

almost the same weight, but Robin looks more stocky. I think that you

can find blocky and stocky in English and American lines and the

opposite as well. The truth is, there are more Labs registered in the

United States each year than any other breed. With so many, and with

so many indiscriminant backyard breeders, there are tons of types and

subtypes and lots of registered dogs that only look vaguely like the

breed. The amazing thing is that the nonaggressive disposition seems

to predominate. Many are hyper as a border collie, but I have hardly

ever encountered an aggressive one, and then it is almost always fear

aggression.

> My Jeb became man aggressive for a short while after the hurricane,

and we never really figured it out, but it has gone away, thank

goodness. Our home is a bit isolated and I love the deterrent factor

of barking dogs, but do not want those barks backed up by bites.

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> love labs, my sister has a huge lab, he's a big buffoon and loveable

> I am certainly not a lab expert but I used to have a neighbor who

had one that I was absolutely in love with. He was a beautiful coal

black and not at all hyper, very sweet natured. My neighbor said he

was so laid back because he was an English lab and that many of the

American lines were much more leggy and hyper. Is that so ?

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I'll bet that the retriever/dane cross is beautiful, Laurie. I'll admit to prefering a really large Lab. The only drawback is that I have been told by a vet that I trust, that length of life, all other things being equal, is directly tied to a dog's size. The average life span for a Dane is 8 years. For a Lab it is 12 to 14 years, with the larger ones usually living a couple of years less than the smaller ones. My oldest boy who is about 95 to 100 pounds is a rescue dog and estimated to be about 9 or 10 years old. I am nowhere near ready to give him up. I can only hope he defies the statistics by several years.

He is way above the breed standard for size, which puts (if I remember correctly) the females at 60 to 75 pounds and the males at 70 to 85 pounds.

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I'll bet that the retriever/dane cross is beautiful, Laurie.

Laurie,

what is his purpose in crossing these two breeds?

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they get a very friendly big dog with less health concerns and they

live longer than a typical great dane. the owners were also trying to

cross breed and breed back in dogs with less medical problems. they

were very consciencious breeders. the weren't breeding dogs until

they were older and had been screened for degenerative diseases.

the dogs were so beautiful and sweet. but they were black labs

crossed with Danes, not sure if i mis-wrote retrievers somewhere or if

that was in reference to my sisters lab, which was bred by a man who

trains them as retrievers.

laurie

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> I'll bet that the retriever/dane cross is beautiful, Laurie.

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