Healthy food obsession sparks rise in new eating disorder

[Guest guest]

That link didn't work for me, but I just searched on

" orthorexia " (which I read today for the first time in another

article) on the guardian site and the article came up. Thanks

Jeanmarie

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Dawn wrote:

> Now because we don't want to eat certain foods we have an eating

> disorder!

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> Healthy food obsession sparks rise in new eating disorder

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> Fixation with healthy eating can be sign of serious psychological

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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eatin

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[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Let's not be too knee-jerk about this. I don't think they're talking about

those of us that care about our health, but aren't too overzealous about it.

There are definitely people that ostracize themselves from friends and family

with eating habits and get overly stressed about eating healthy. I know some

people that would be better off to just eat the cookie than to put themselves

through all the stress they do avoiding it.

Orthorexia isn't really about " people that eat healthy " . It's about people that

are so obsessed with eating healthy that they really can't function normally in

society. People that can't go out to a nice local restaurant because the meat

might not be 100% organic, grass-fed.

I mean, in my house, it's all grass-fed/pastured, but I also have no problem

going out to eat and having a piece of nice, crusty bread slathered in butter.

It doesn't fit my normal eating style (Paleo/Primal), but let's get real...90/10

gets you pretty much all of the benefits of 100%.

So all of what I just wrote is basically to say, " They probably don't mean you. "

Cheers

Kustes

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[Guest guest]

I had to look at the web address to see if it was The Onion... Is this

" Guardian " modeled after the Onion, perhaps? But the thing is, humans are so

stupid, it wouldn't be hard to get the masses vaguely believing that it's a

" serious psychological disorder " to not want to eat food that has been grown in

poison. Then Monsanto Corp. can more easily have its way with the world, make

criminals and psych-ward patients out of people who want to eat natural food.

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[Guest guest]

I'm pretty sure the Guardian is a well respected UK newspaper. It is

certainly not anything like The Onion.

I've heard of this before, months ago, so this is not something brand new.

In any event, I think a previous responded said it already - this is about

when it interferes with your life. For example, it is good, desireable,

admirable, etc, to want to be a healthy weight. d to extremes and

having distorted thinking about it to the extent of starving yourself is

certainly not healthy. And that is why anorexia is a disorder. Wanting to

eat healthy and not eat unhealthy foods is good, healthy, admirable, etc.

But when carried to the extreme of being afraid of food because of possible

contaminants, when you spend too much time and mental energy obsessing about

what you can and cannot eat, neglecting friends, family, obligations, etc,

well, at that point it is starting to affect your life in unhealthy ways.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM, jmr1290 <jomarex@...> wrote:

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> I had to look at the web address to see if it was The Onion... Is this

> " Guardian " modeled after the Onion, perhaps? But the thing is, humans are so

> stupid, it wouldn't be hard to get the masses vaguely believing that it's a

> " serious psychological disorder " to not want to eat food that has been grown

> in poison. Then Monsanto Corp. can more easily have its way with the world,

> make criminals and psych-ward patients out of people who want to eat natural

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[Guest guest]

Yeah you have to cut and paste it the g-disorder got cut off.

You can also try this: http://sn.im/qhx82

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jeanmarie Todd

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:33 PM

Subject: Re: Healthy food obsession sparks rise in new eating disorder

That link didn't work for me, but I just searched on

" orthorexia " (which I read today for the first time in another

article) on the guardian site and the article came up. Thanks

Jeanmarie

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Dawn wrote:

> Now because we don't want to eat certain foods we have an eating

> disorder!

>

> Healthy food obsession sparks rise in new eating disorder

>

> Fixation with healthy eating can be sign of serious psychological

> disorder

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eatin

> g-disorder

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[Guest guest]

Well, eating one meal at a local restaurant gives me heartburn, diarrhea and

makes me feel crappy for a day or two. The only diagnosed (!) issue that I have,

however, ist low thyroid. Therefore, I would certainly fall under that

orthorexia lable or should I say libel. I'm still gonna pass the cookie though.

90/10 just doesn't work for me. At least not until my health has significantly

increased.

[Guest guest]

You see to be missing the point. It isn't about 90/10. That was just an

example. Ask yourself (and ask your friends, because obviously people with

other eating disorders don't see their disorder as a problem - this

distorted thinking is part of the diagnoses)

- Are you obsessed with food and eating healthy? Think about it all day

long?

- Do you obsessively count things like carbs, fat grams, sugar, etc to the

point that it takes up a significant part of the meal planning and eating

process?

- Are you malnourished or underweight?

- Have you stopped seeing friends or family members because of fear you will

be forced into a situation where they will offer food that you won't eat?

- Is it affecting your job?

That sort of thing.

If you have allergic reactions, gastric problems, etc and avoid certain

foods as a result, that is not an eating disorder.

If you eat healthy but come up with alternative meals when visiting with

friends and family, so you won't have to eat some processed food, that is

not an eating disorder.

If you are aware of what you eat but do not obsessively think about it day

in and day out, that is not an eating disorder.

If you try to avoid sugar but will eat piece of fruit that was next to a

cookie, that is not an eating disorder.

If you need to or choose to exclude certain types of food from your diet,

but you are still getting the right amount of vitamins, minerals, etc to

remain nourished, it is not an eating disorder.

An eating disorder is all about distorted thinking and obsession. It is not

about being healthy.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Hansuke <doublethink03@...> wrote:

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> Well, eating one meal at a local restaurant gives me heartburn, diarrhea

> and makes me feel crappy for a day or two. The only diagnosed (!) issue that

> I have, however, ist low thyroid. Therefore, I would certainly fall under

> that orthorexia lable or should I say libel. I'm still gonna pass the cookie

> though. 90/10 just doesn't work for me. At least not until my health has

> significantly increased.

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[Guest guest]

Well put, .

On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:30 AM, wrote:

> You see to be missing the point. It isn't about 90/10. That was just

> an

> example. Ask yourself (and ask your friends, because obviously

> people with

> other eating disorders don't see their disorder as a problem - this

> distorted thinking is part of the diagnoses)

>

> - Are you obsessed with food and eating healthy? Think about it all

> day

> long?

> - Do you obsessively count things like carbs, fat grams, sugar, etc

> to the

> point that it takes up a significant part of the meal planning and

> eating

> process?

> - Are you malnourished or underweight?

> - Have you stopped seeing friends or family members because of fear

> you will

> be forced into a situation where they will offer food that you won't

> eat?

> - Is it affecting your job?

>

> That sort of thing.

>

> If you have allergic reactions, gastric problems, etc and avoid

> certain

> foods as a result, that is not an eating disorder.

> If you eat healthy but come up with alternative meals when visiting

> with

> friends and family, so you won't have to eat some processed food,

> that is

> not an eating disorder.

> If you are aware of what you eat but do not obsessively think about

> it day

> in and day out, that is not an eating disorder.

> If you try to avoid sugar but will eat piece of fruit that was next

> to a

> cookie, that is not an eating disorder.

> If you need to or choose to exclude certain types of food from your

> diet,

> but you are still getting the right amount of vitamins, minerals,

> etc to

> remain nourished, it is not an eating disorder.

>

> An eating disorder is all about distorted thinking and obsession. It

> is not

> about being healthy.

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[Guest guest]

said:

> An eating disorder is all about distorted thinking and obsession. It

> is not about being healthy.

But, my friends and family think that the way I eat healthy, which includes

organic, free-range, high fat, WAP, is distorted and obsessive. Come on, its

pretty distorted and obsessive to get up early in the morning to meet the milk

man, and to drive to the actual farm to pick up the produce and meat.

So, its a matter of whose perspective you are observing, mine or theirs. You

would look at my lifestyle and say ya! she's doing very good - very healthy!

My friends and family look at it and say " she's gonna drop dead from all that

fat! " " she's over the edge on sourcing her food " .

No, I do not consider myself obsessive, distorted or on my way to an eating

disorder, but others that observe me do.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I guess it boils down to, is this making you happier and healthier or

not? Only you can answer that. I don't share these details with my

family because I don't want to subject myself to the eye-rolling. It

sounds like you're braver than I am!

Jeanmarie

On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Kathy Dickson wrote:

> said:

> > An eating disorder is all about distorted thinking and obsession. It

> > is not about being healthy.

>

> But, my friends and family think that the way I eat healthy, which

> includes organic, free-range, high fat, WAP, is distorted and

> obsessive. Come on, its pretty distorted and obsessive to get up

> early in the morning to meet the milk man, and to drive to the

> actual farm to pick up the produce and meat.

>

> So, its a matter of whose perspective you are observing, mine or

> theirs. You would look at my lifestyle and say ya! she's doing very

> good - very healthy!

>

> My friends and family look at it and say " she's gonna drop dead from

> all that fat! " " she's over the edge on sourcing her food " .

>

> No, I do not consider myself obsessive, distorted or on my way to an

> eating disorder, but others that observe me do.

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> Kathy

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[Guest guest]

The article didn't talk about if it is making us healthier or happier, just

that we have an obsession with healthy food.

It's pretty stupid IMHO, anyone who wants to be healthy should be careful

and might even seem " obsessed " to unhealthy, junk food JUNKIES!

To my family it's obsessive that I'd rather go hungry than eat a burger at

mcdonald's. It's obsessive to them that I won't go out to eat at most

restaurants at all. There aren't really many that are friendly to my diet

and those that I can get by at don't always have gluten free menus.

I am allergic to corn syrup too! It makes me vomit, have horrible cramping

and then diarrhea. Just one small candy bar can do this to me. So I have

to watch for that too and it's in everything! Mayo, mustards, ketchup, BBQ,

cheese sauces, bread (now cant eat that anyway), and even things you think

are meat like hot dogs and sausage!

These disorders are so one sided in the eye of the beholder as it were.

Just an excuse to try and negate my food choices and my ability to make

conscious and educated choices.

I mean did you see one of the " symptoms " ???? People who like to research

nutrition?!?!

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jeanmarie Todd

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Healthy food obsession sparks rise in new eating

disorder

I guess it boils down to, is this making you happier and healthier or

not? Only you can answer that. I don't share these details with my

family because I don't want to subject myself to the eye-rolling. It

sounds like you're braver than I am!

Jeanmarie

On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Kathy Dickson wrote:

> said:

> > An eating disorder is all about distorted thinking and obsession. It

> > is not about being healthy.

>

> But, my friends and family think that the way I eat healthy, which

> includes organic, free-range, high fat, WAP, is distorted and

> obsessive. Come on, its pretty distorted and obsessive to get up

> early in the morning to meet the milk man, and to drive to the

> actual farm to pick up the produce and meat.

>

> So, its a matter of whose perspective you are observing, mine or

> theirs. You would look at my lifestyle and say ya! she's doing very

> good - very healthy!

>

> My friends and family look at it and say " she's gonna drop dead from

> all that fat! " " she's over the edge on sourcing her food " .

>

> No, I do not consider myself obsessive, distorted or on my way to an

> eating disorder, but others that observe me do.

>

> Kathy

>

> _._,___

[Guest guest]

Yep! it's not new to me, since I was 16 yrs old, when I read and saw pictures of animal factory farming I said to myself its time to change my eating habits that was in 1975, gave up all red meat, but did eat fish, and eggs, I still eat that way.Perhaps this is obsessive, but I am pretty healthy, and I have taught my children to eat healthy, whether they do it or not, is up to them.We humans need to learn balance, that is for sure, but what of the balance of main stream? Is there are a balance

eating fast foods in replace of home cooking? Is there a balance when you go grocery shopping and you buy GMO grown foods? Or factory farmed animals? Or how bout your dose of MSG snacks, with GMO grains in it?MMM..Say What?Again this article goes along with the one from Mike about how we the health food crowd are considered NUTS for eating healthy. I have been called a "Nut" too by my parents and family and friends, but I don't care, I have had no surgeries or cancers, and I only go to the doctor because I have 3 herniated discs from a slip n fall back 10 yrs ago. I would say now that main stream media factory farmed and GMO foods are now

getting bombarded because people are becoming aware of what is really going on with our food chain and they are running scared so they are using tactics on people that are consciously trying to clean up their diets. Using reverse psychology are they? I think so.I was watching an ad on TV the other night about a food coop in Southern Oregon in Ashland and they advertise that they sell no GMO foods and no factory farmed animals all free ranged there, so you see people are seeing through this now more than ever.Michelehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eating-disorder