Re: Article: Why Some Children May 'Grow Out' of Autism

[Guest guest]

Well, Bill,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who " caught " a sloppy on-line article reviewer to

even more sloppy original research " at work. " I didn't chase after the

Pediatrics journal, but I'd be willing to bet that its own conclusions and

cautions are even more global. Longetudinal studies are essential.One of the

distressing aspects of research in the field is that with the definition of

autism due to change and the likelihood of receiving an autism diagnosis being

more a function of counting beans and hurried head-huddles with medical insurers

and lowball budget providers, this is just the kind of " article " on the Internet

we don't need if we're looking for clarity in a very murky area of diagnosis and

the long-term effect of genuinely chronic comorbid conditions

As always, I urge folks to read the original juried journal article if they can

find it.

N. Meyer

Re: Article: Why Some Children May 'Grow Out'

of Autism

>

>helen_foisy wrote:

>> In this study, co-morbidities were found to be key factors in governing

outcome.

>

>Well..., no. The " study shows " nothing of the sort. From the article

>itself (emphasis mine):

>

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>He cautions, however, that because the research is just a snapshot in

>time, it >>> can’t say very much <<< about why some people’s

>symptoms become milder over time while others continue to qualify for an

>autism diagnosis.

>

>“It >>> doesn’t really get into that <<< notion of how does the

>pattern change for an individual, or what sort of things might have

>happened that may have been associated with a change,†like medication,

>or early, intensive behavioral therapy, he says.

>-----------------------------------------

>

>What *is* shown is deficient 'critical thinking' by both the original

>author and by the commentator.

>

>Also shown is one of the ways in which " evidence " (which isn't) seeps

>into the body of " truth " (which also isn't) - contaminating reality

>(which then no longer is).

>

>> Why Some Children May 'Grow Out' of Autism

>> But Kids With Several Physical, Psychological Problems May Be Less Likely to

Improve Over Time, Study Shows

>> By Goodman, MA

>> WebMD Health News

>> Reviewed by Hansa D. Bhargava, MD

>>

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20120123/why-some-children-may-grow-out-o\

f-autism

>

>- Bill AS, ...retired geneticist

>

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>WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA

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>

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[Guest guest]

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> As always, I urge folks to read the original juried journal article if they

can find it.

I tried, but this is the best I can do.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/01/18/peds.2011-1717

I believe you have to pay a subscription fee to view the full paper.

Though everyone will take away something different from this study (and

obviously I do not have access to its complete content) the overall impression I

have is one that is encouraging. My interpretation is that the outcome is

mutable, and could be ameliorated by many factors, even if this is not what is

implied in the study.

- Helen

[Guest guest]

helen_foisy wrote:

<< Though everyone will take away something different from this study

(and obviously I do not have access to its complete content) the overall

impression I have is one that is encouraging. My interpretation is that

the outcome is mutable, and could be ameliorated by many factors, even

if this is not what is implied in the study. >>

I agree with you, Helen. The outcome is indeed mutable for many, myself

included. Each situation is so very unique.

Personally, I found the article somewhat rambling and hard to follow. I would

really like to be able to read the professional literature on which it is based.

Both Bill and make several excellent points about the article, so I will

not go over that ground again.

Best,

~CJ