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That would be perfect, Gerard. I am looking forward to it.

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so now i had to go find photos....http://www.gulf-coast.com/News/DaytonScoggins-chain-saw-biloxi.htmlhttp://darkblueworld.smugmug.com/gallery/2618222#138144415--- In thefatmanwalking_group , Elaine wrote:>> Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that Imay see> the carvings and found the following info:> > I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on Hwy 90 but the> samples on the artist's site are lovely..> > Elaine> *Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard*> > Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin> removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxiin the> next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in> which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted worksof art.> > Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenichighway in> the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT> crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place, where> international award-winning "chainsaw artist" Dayton Scoggins ofMississippi> will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects.> > "We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted inBiloxi on> public property alone since Hurricane Katrina," Holloway said, "andin this> particular project, we're giving a second life to something MotherNature> attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make> lemonade."> > Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne> Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaverabout the> project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had> artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested theidea to> Biloxi.> > The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection ofdead oak> trees now stands a couple blocks west of the Biloxi Lighthouse, withseveral> other sculptures created in the median further west toward RodenbergAvenue.> > Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT willfund the> preliminary "topping" of the trees.> > "We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project," CommissionerBrown> said. "This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certain ly hope that> people realize that it involves only those trees that have beendeemed as> dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we wantto do –> and we will not do – is to take down a live oak."> > Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville,Miss.,> has successfully represented the United States in internationalwoodcarving> competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitionsthroughout the> country. To see samples of his stump carvings,> http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html> > on County crews will continue to be responsible for themaintaining> the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an> environmentally friendly preservative.> > Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passi ng motorists,> Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearbycity parks.> > > > > > >> > I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid,> > turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp makeup the> > minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can bethrown back> > in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. Theshrimpers> > make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if theywere bred> > to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred tofetch> > birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have prettymuch given up> > eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.> > Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has towonder how> > they can add up to a number that would offset what living treesall over the> > country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may beright and I> > could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.> > On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90which runs> > along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead treesand carved> > them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other seacreatures,> > sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast fromBiloxi to Pass> > Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so,hopefully> > will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelousexample of> > making lemonade from life's lemons.----- Original Message -----> >> > <thefatmanwalki ng_group-unsubscribe ?subject=>> >> > .> >> > > >>

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Thanks, Gerard. I thought of you right away when said we could fly into New Orleans. And maybe you'll see other listers (we need a good name to identify us. What is a good one?) passing through.

I look forward to it, Gerard.

Elaine

& Elaine,

IF either of you are in the New Orleans we can possibly meet.

, the weather here is typically a wet & cold night which has thrown a rain delay in the first big afternoon/night of the Mardi Gras parade season.

Gerard

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Thanks so much, . Then we could really collaborate, eh?

Elaine

The invitation stands for whenever you can come, Elaine, and it is genuine. All you need to do is get to New Orleans. Becca and I would both be delighted to have you.

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so now i had to go find photos....http://www.gulf-coast.com/News/DaytonScoggins-chain-saw-biloxi.html

http://darkblueworld.smugmug.com/gallery/2618222#138144415--- In thefatmanwalking_group , Elaine wrote:

>> Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that Imay see> the carvings and found the following info:> > I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on Hwy 90 but the

> samples on the artist's site are lovely..> > Elaine> *Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard*> > Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin

> removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxiin the> next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in> which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted works

of art.> > Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenichighway in> the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT> crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place, where

> international award-winning " chainsaw artist " Dayton Scoggins ofMississippi> will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects.> > " We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted in

Biloxi on> public property alone since Hurricane Katrina, " Holloway said, " andin this> particular project, we're giving a second life to something MotherNature> attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make

> lemonade. " > > Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne> Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaverabout the> project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had

> artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested theidea to> Biloxi.> > The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection ofdead oak> trees now stands a couple blocks west of the Biloxi Lighthouse, with

several> other sculptures created in the median further west toward RodenbergAvenue.> > Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT willfund the> preliminary " topping " of the trees.

> > " We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project, " CommissionerBrown> said. " This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certainly hope that> people realize that it involves only those trees that have been

deemed as> dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we wantto do –> and we will not do – is to take down a live oak. " > > Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville,

Miss.,> has successfully represented the United States in internationalwoodcarving> competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitionsthroughout the> country. To see samples of his stump carvings,

> http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html> > on County crews will continue to be responsible for the

maintaining> the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an> environmentally friendly preservative.> > Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passing motorists,

> Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearbycity parks.> > > > > > >> > I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid,

> > turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp makeup the> > minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can bethrown back> > in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The

shrimpers> > make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if theywere bred> > to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred tofetch> > birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty

much given up> > eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.> > Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has towonder how> > they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees

all over the> > country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may beright and I> > could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.> > On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90

which runs> > along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead treesand carved> > them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other seacreatures,> > sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from

Biloxi to Pass> > Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so,hopefully> > will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelousexample of> > making lemonade from life's lemons.----- Original Message -----

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In addition to the formaldehyde problem there is a propane problem due to improper installation/anchoring of the FEMA trailers.

Gerard

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Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that I may see the carvings and found the following info:

I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on Hwy 90 but the samples on the artist's site are lovely..

Elaine

Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard

Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxi in the next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted works of art.

Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenic highway in the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place, where international award-winning "chainsaw artist" Dayton Scoggins of Mississippi will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects.

"We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted in Biloxi on public property alone since Hurricane Katrina," Holloway said, "and in this particular project, we're giving a second life to something Mother Nature attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make lemonade."

Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaver about the project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested the idea to Biloxi.

The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection of dead oak trees now stands a couple blocks west of the Biloxi Lighthouse, with several other sculptures created in the median further west toward Rodenberg Avenue. Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT will fund the preliminary "topping" of the trees.

"We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project," Commissioner Brown said. "This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certainly hope that people realize that it involves only those trees that have been deemed as dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we want to do – and we will not do – is to take down a live oak."

Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville, Miss., has successfully represented the United States in international woodcarving competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitions throughout the country. To see samples of his stump carvings, http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html

on County crews will continue to be responsible for the maintaining the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an environmentally friendly preservative.

Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passing motorists, Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearby city parks.

On 1/22/08, labtrek1941 <labtrek1941bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid, turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp make up the minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be thrown back in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The shrimpers make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if they were bred to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred to fetch birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty much given up eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.

Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to wonder how they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees all over the country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may be right and I could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.

On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90 which runs along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead trees and carved them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other sea creatures, sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from Biloxi to Pass Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so, hopefully will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelous example of making lemonade from life's lemons. ----- Original Message -----

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<<Actually living in one might be another matter>>

lol, , that's what I was thinking when I was reading your description. I was thinking they would make great little buildings for the backyard. I always think it's great when people (usually famous writers) have " writing shacks " on their property. Or it would be a a nice guest house. Maybe a pool house. But as a primary home.......

I was born with the packrat gene that runs in my family. I feel I have an incredibly small apt but really, I just need tons more storage space and it'd be okay.

OTOH, if I could live in a beautiful rural area on a lovely piece of land or a beach, I could give up a lot in the way of a house. Mmm, a house. Just having my own house sounds sublime.

Elaine

They are little tiny houses which look much like the turn-of-the-century shotgum houses complete with gingerbread trim. They are manufactured elsewhere and brought in by truck like a mobile home. They all look exactly alike, and are meant to be affordable housing for those displaced by Katrina. Miles better than the FEMA trailers which, not surprisingly, are emitting formaldehyde fumes and other horrible problems. I have a weakness for tiny houses of any type, and these little houses touch something inside me. Actually living in one might be another matter.

W

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Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that I may see the carvings and found the following info:

I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on Hwy 90 but the samples on the artist's site are lovely..

Elaine

Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard

Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxi in the next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted works of art.

Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenic highway in the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place, where international award-winning " chainsaw artist " Dayton Scoggins of Mississippi will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects.

" We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted in Biloxi on public property alone since Hurricane Katrina, " Holloway said, " and in this particular project, we're giving a second life to something Mother Nature attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make lemonade. "

Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaver about the project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested the idea to Biloxi.

The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection of dead oak trees now stands a couple blocks west of the Biloxi Lighthouse, with several other sculptures created in the median further west toward Rodenberg Avenue.

Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT will fund the preliminary " topping " of the trees.

" We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project, " Commissioner Brown said. " This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certainly hope that people realize that it involves only those trees that have been deemed as dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we want to do – and we will not do – is to take down a live oak. "

Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville, Miss., has successfully represented the United States in international woodcarving competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitions throughout the country. To see samples of his stump carvings, http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html

on County crews will continue to be responsible for the maintaining the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an environmentally friendly preservative.

Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passing motorists, Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearby city parks.

I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid, turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp make up the minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be thrown back in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The shrimpers make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if they were bred to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred to fetch birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty much given up eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.

Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to wonder how they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees all over the country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may be right and I could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.

On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90 which runs along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead trees and carved them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other sea creatures, sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from Biloxi to Pass Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so, hopefully will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelous example of making lemonade from life's lemons. ----- Original Message -----

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Yeah, when I looked at it at home, I had had the sound turned down and hadn't heard it. Later I was showing the site to a friend on a different computer and that chain saw started up, surprising both of us. I can't say it helped anything.

Sorry I didn't give you the link but I no longer had it while writing and this computer is so darn slow.

Did you see the carving he did on the bark of a living tree? I liked that a great deal but I don't know if I'd do that to a tree. Esp if the tree died or became diseased due to the carving. In N. Calif, people have done things to living redwoods, like make one into a gift shop, putting a doorway and little window in it. Actually, I'm not completely sure that one is alive. I know a fire had burned out some of the inside but I think part of it is still living. They have stuck all kinds of things on others and cut out tunnels so people can drive their car through the tree. It's neat and sad.

the sound of the chain saw was a bit much. i had to put in Hwy90stump art and that found it. it's pretty cool, would be great to go see it. i have a busy yearplanned out, so i will have to see how it goes. Thanks for the invite

.hopefully my husband will get the taxes done this weekend and we'llsee if we can get financed for that house.laurie> > > >> > > > I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid,

> > > > turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp make> > up the> > > > minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be> > thrown back> > > > in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The

> > shrimpers> > > > make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if they> > were bred> > > > to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred to

> > fetch> > > > birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty> > much given up> > > > eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.> > > > Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to

> > wonder how> > > > they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees> > all over the> > > > country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may be

> > right and I> > > > could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.> > > > On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90> > which runs> > > > along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead trees

> > and carved> > > > them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other sea> > creatures,> > > > sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from> > Biloxi to Pass

> > > > Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so,> > hopefully> > > > will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelous> > example of> > > > making lemonade from life's lemons.----- Original Message -----

> > > >> > > ><thefatmanwalking_group-unsubscribe <thefatmanwalking_group-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > ?subject=>> > > >> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Wonder if these are the type mobile homes Warren Buffet sunk a few bucks in? labtrek1941 wrote: They are little tiny houses which look much like the turn-of-the-century shotgum houses complete with gingerbread trim. They are manufactured elsewhere and brought in by truck like a mobile home. They all look exactly alike, and are meant to be affordable housing for those displaced by Katrina. Miles better than the FEMA trailers which, not surprisingly, are emitting

formaldehyde fumes and other horrible problems. I have a weakness for tiny houses of any type, and these little houses touch something inside me. Actually living in one might be another matter. W Re: Whole Foods will stop using plastic bags Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that I may see the carvings and found the following info: I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on

Hwy 90 but the samples on the artist's site are lovely.. Elaine Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxi in the next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted works of art. Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenic highway in the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place,

where international award-winning "chainsaw artist" Dayton Scoggins of Mississippi will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects. "We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted in Biloxi on public property alone since Hurricane Katrina," Holloway said, "and in this particular project, we're giving a second life to something Mother Nature attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make lemonade." Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaver about the project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested the idea to Biloxi. The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection of dead oak trees now stands a couple blocks west of the

Biloxi Lighthouse, with several other sculptures created in the median further west toward Rodenberg Avenue. Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT will fund the preliminary "topping" of the trees. "We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project," Commissioner Brown said. "This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certainly hope that people realize that it involves only those trees that have been deemed as dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we want to do – and we will not do – is to take down a live oak." Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville, Miss., has successfully represented the United States in international woodcarving competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitions throughout the country. To see samples of his stump carvings, http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html on County crews will continue to be responsible for the maintaining the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an environmentally friendly preservative. Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passing motorists, Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearby city parks. On 1/22/08, labtrek1941 <labtrek1941bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: I have

seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid, turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp make up the minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be thrown back in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The shrimpers make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if they were bred to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred to fetch birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty much given up eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed. Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to wonder how they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees all over the country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may be right and I could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me. On the subject of

dead trees, in the median of US highway 90 which runs along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead trees and carved them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other sea creatures, sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from Biloxi to Pass Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so, hopefully will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelous example of making lemonade from life's lemons. ----- Original Message ----- .

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charge enough that they should be delivering it to your door andcooking it> for you,

Ain't it the truth! I used to go there just for certain specialty items, but I can get most of those online now. I rarely go to Whole Foods

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I worked with someone who had a bag crocheted from the plastic bags and it looked surprisingly classy and roomy and strong as anything

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I have never seen one of these, but it sounds interesting! (because I have so much spare time! lol)

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here they are allowing a lot of lots to be subdivided into duplex,

multi family or tiny lots, a few people have gotten permission to put

the Katrina style houses on their back yard. i'll see if i can find

that link. i'm looking for the yurt link right now :)

laurie

> > > >

> > > > I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid,

> > > > turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp

make up the

> > > > minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be

thrown back

> > > > in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp.

The shrimpers

> > > > make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if

they were bred

> > > > to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is

bred to fetch

> > > > birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty

much given up

> > > > eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.

> > > > Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to

wonder

> > > > how they can add up to a number that would offset what living

trees all over

> > > > the country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may

be right and

> > > > I could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.

> > > > On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90

which

> > > > runs along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead

trees

> > > > and carved them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins

and other sea

> > > > creatures, sort of totem style. They are all up and down the

coast from

> > > > Biloxi to Pass Christian. They seem to have been coated with

a clear

> > > > lacquer so, hopefully will last a number of years. Very

beautiful and a

> > > > marvelous example of making lemonade from life's lemons. -----

> > > > Original Message -----

> > > >

> > > > <thefatmanwalking_group-unsubscribe ?subject=>

> > > >

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I love the concept of this. I am going to add it to the list of things I am going to do when I get some "extra" time lol

someone told me you could follow the directions for twine or sisal?bags and that it would be nearly the same. one trick i saw them do onthe program is to 'twist' the plastic on your finger as you crochet itso it will have a tight twist and more strength. I'm terrible atknitting and crocheting, but i love the thought of it. (handcoordination issues)i was going to help a friend find some instructions and now i forgetwho it was. laurie This is a great move. > They'll still have paper bags. For some things they charge enough> that they should be delivering it to your door and cooking it for you,> but it's still great that they are doing it. > > > > Elaine> > > > The Associated Press January 22, 2008, 10:50AM ET text size: TT> > Whole Foods to stop using plastic bags> > > > from BusinessWeek> > AUSTIN > > > > Natural and organic grocer Whole Foods Market announced Tuesday it> will stop using disposable plastic grocery bags at supermarket> checkouts and encourage reusable bags instead. > > > > The decision affects all of the company's 270 stores in the United> States, Canada and the United Kingdom. Whole Foods said its goal is to> be plastic bag-free by Earth Day on April 22. > > > > Cities and countries are increasingly restricting single-use> plastic shopping bags because they don't break down in landfills and> can clog waterways, endanger wildlife and litter roadsides. > > > > A.C. Gallo, co-president and chief operating officer for Whole> Foods Market, estimated that the move by Whole Foods will keep 100> million new plastic grocery bags out of the environment between Earth> Day and the end of this year alone. > > > > Before taking the step, Whole Foods tested doing away with> disposable plastic bags in San Francisco, Toronto and Austin and saw> positive customer response, Gallo said.> > > > The grocery company will continue to offer 100-percent recycled> paper grocery bags.> > > > Each store will immediately start working on depleting stocks of> disposable plastic grocery bags at checkout stands and will increase> the selection of reusable bags for purchase, Whole Foods said in a> prepared statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> >>

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I would not be surprised. He probably built them then arranged for a hurricane or two to create a demand for them. Once in place, they do not look so much like a mobile home with pitched roofs, more like very small cottages. With a little landscaping, they are really quite cute.

I agree that money-wise, retirement sucks. I really do not want to work full time, so agreed to do occasional work for the hospice I was attached to. Their clientelle decreased drastically, then some questionable things happened at the administrative level and they are not using me.as much as I would like. Last month I had a $500.00 horse vet bill and last week I had to take a dog to the emergency hospital $320.00. It would not have too big a problem before, but I am having to do some creative juggling to cover it all. Becca is saving for graduate school, so I usually do not bother her with financial matters, but she chipped in on both bills, thank goodness. The good part is, both dog and horse recovered completely.

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Thanks for telling us about this, . I looked it up so that I may see the carvings and found the following info:

I was only able to find a couple pictures of the trees on Hwy 90 but the samples on the artist's site are lovely..

Elaine

Biloxi to embark on tree-trunk project on Beach Boulevard

Mississippi Department of Transportation crews are scheduled to begin removing standing dead trees from the medians of U.S. 90 in Biloxi in the next couple of weeks, and Mayor A.J. Holloway has coordinated a plan in which the remaining trunks will be transformed into sculpted works of art.

Dozens of live oaks have died in the center medians of the scenic highway in the 16 months since Hurricane Katrina, and, under Holloway's plan, MDOT crews will leave as much as 20 feet of the tree trunks in place, where international award-winning "chainsaw artist" Dayton Scoggins of Mississippi will sculpt a variety of marine-related objects.

"We've had more than 300 trees of different varieties planted in Biloxi on public property alone since Hurricane Katrina," Holloway said, "and in this particular project, we're giving a second life to something Mother Nature attempted to destroy. We were dealt lemons and now we're going to make lemonade."

Holloway approached Southern District Transportation Commissioner Wayne Brown and on County Parkway Commission Director Bobby Weaver about the project on Dec. 7. Gulfport Public Works Director Kris Riemann, who had artist Scoggins sculpt a tree in Gulfport, originally suggested the idea to Biloxi.

The mayor envisions a tree-sculpture garden where a collection of dead oak trees now stands a couple blocks west of the Biloxi Lighthouse, with several other sculptures created in the median further west toward Rodenberg Avenue. Biloxi will pay $4,000 for the initial sculpting, while MDOT will fund the preliminary "topping" of the trees.

"We're happy to be a part of this cooperative project," Commissioner Brown said. "This is, after all, a scenic highway, and I certainly hope that people realize that it involves only those trees that have been deemed as dead, by both MDOT and the city's arborist. The last thing we want to do – and we will not do – is to take down a live oak."

Scoggins, who was born in Greene County and lives in ville, Miss., has successfully represented the United States in international woodcarving competitions and has also won numerous awards in competitions throughout the country. To see samples of his stump carvings, http://www.thechainsawartist.com/stump.html

on County crews will continue to be responsible for the maintaining the medians around the sculptures, which Scoggins will treat with an environmentally friendly preservative.

Should the artwork ever be deemed a distraction to passing motorists, Holloway and Brown said, the trunks could be relocated to nearby city parks.

On 1/22/08, labtrek1941 <labtrek1941bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

I have seen firsthand all the sea creatures (baby fish, squid, turtles,etc. that are caught in shrimpers nets. The shrimp make up the minority of the catch and the rest often dies before it can be thrown back in. Knowing this I am strongly in favor of farmed shrimp. The shrimpers make a big hue and cry about needing their livelihood as if they were bred to catch shrimp and that only, sort of like a retriever is bred to fetch birds or a border collie is bred to herd sheep. I have pretty much given up eating shrimp until I find a source that I know is farmed.

Beth, we have the broken pine trees here, too, but one has to wonder how they can add up to a number that would offset what living trees all over the country or even in the area can produce in oxygen. He may be right and I could be wrong, but it will take more convincing for me.

On the subject of dead trees, in the median of US highway 90 which runs along the coast, someone has taken the trunks of the dead trees and carved them into sculptures, some birds, others dolphins and other sea creatures, sort of totem style. They are all up and down the coast from Biloxi to Pass Christian. They seem to have been coated with a clear lacquer so, hopefully will last a number of years. Very beautiful and a marvelous example of making lemonade from life's lemons. ----- Original Message -----

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