Re: H.Pylori in 19 year old

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Dry cough can be a symptom of gastroesophageal reflux, due to reflex irritation of the bronchi by stomach acid in the oesophagus. Sometimes it's the only symptom as people don't always feel the direct effects of the acid in the oesophagus. Cinnamonum is active against H. pylori (Avicenna do a lovely syrupy Cinnamonum tr.), but it is also important to repair the gut mucosa. We all have some H.pylori, it's just that in some individuals it manages to burrow into the mucosa and multiply. Stress, smoking, chocolate and intolerance to foods (such as gluten) seem to make this more likely.Glycyrrhiza is specific for repairing the mucosal barrier so I usually use this (15-20mL of an FE), together with anti-inflammatory and vulnerary herbs such as Filipendula, Calendula, Matricaria - usually as a tea (but only a very small quantity of Matricaria if any if there's reflux).I also use Centella glycerite to help with stress levels and repair the gut, and a low dose of Acorus if there's reflux.I find this approach together with diet modification and probiotics works very well, whereas taking antibiotics may only work for a while and the problem can resurface.

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Hi all

I have a new client 19 yrs old with a diagnosis of H. Pylori. He does not want to take antibiotics and prefers to try the herbal approach. He is also presenting with a cough (dry) which began 7 weeks ago and I am wondering if this is part of the picture - does anyone have any comment on this please? My preferred approach is to use powders but I also think juices may be useful. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance

Trudy

Trudy Norris

Medical Herbalist, Lymphoedema Therapist

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Great protocol. In addition, I would add a note regarding a likely constitutional hypo-acidity of the stomach (present if intake shows history of slow digestion accompanied with bloating, gas, heartburn after meals and not between meals, etc). We know today that H. pylori can only take place when the acidity level in the stomach is decreased.

The usual cycle is this : 

- Hypoacidity (constitutional)- Leading to GERD (good article from Kresser here: http://chriskresser.com/the-hidden-causes-of-heartburn-and-gerd)

- Doc prescribes anti-acid- This further aggravates the hypoacidity leading to H. pylori infection

- H. pylori itself lowers stomach acidity further to get established and thrive

- Leading to chronic GERD & heartburn

So in addition to soothing/repairing the mucosa and eradicating H. pylori (licorice), using low doses of bitters before meals might help quite a bit. It counters the H. pylori effort to lower acidity, and may paliate the constitutional weakness. Low doses, a few drops of a good gentian tincture, is enough to get the juices going. Monitor closely the first few days, adjust doses as necessary. Also consider HCL supplements (not to be taken if person takes anti-inflammatory drugs).

See Kresser's article for additional suggestions :

- Probiotics (as mentioned by Aine Marie)- Bone broth

- Lowering carbs (fermentation & pressure on gastro-esophageal sphincter)

 

Dry cough can be a symptom of gastroesophageal reflux, due to reflex irritation of the bronchi by stomach acid in the oesophagus. Sometimes it's the only symptom as people don't always feel the direct effects of the acid in the oesophagus.  Cinnamonum is active against H. pylori (Avicenna do a lovely syrupy Cinnamonum tr.), but it is also important to repair the gut mucosa. We all have some H.pylori, it's just that in some individuals it manages to burrow into the mucosa and multiply. Stress, smoking, chocolate and intolerance to foods (such as gluten) seem to make this more likely.

Glycyrrhiza is specific for repairing the mucosal barrier so I usually use this (15-20mL of an FE), together with anti-inflammatory and vulnerary herbs such as Filipendula, Calendula, Matricaria - usually as a tea (but only a very small quantity of Matricaria if any  if there's reflux).

I also use Centella glycerite to help with stress levels and repair the gut, and a low dose of Acorus if there's reflux.I find this approach together with diet modification and probiotics works very well, whereas taking antibiotics may only work for a while and the problem can resurface.