Re: Basic laser/joint questions

[Guest guest]

I have not seen anyone answer so thought I would pop in. Large joints are

considered carpus to shoulder and tarsus to hip. Small joints are MC-P to IP,

MT-P to IP, and facet joints. I hope that helps.

As for therapy, looking at Tuner and Hodes research, they say that to get the

most pain relief with deepest penetration to hold the beam in one place. To get

the best healing, scanning over the tissue to allow the photons to slowly

penetrate the area is better. I have a tendency to start with point to point

and then alternate between the two. If the animal is extremely painful, I will

do the first two treatments with point to point. If you are using a K or

Companion laser you do not have a choice, if you were to keep the laser in one

place the tissue heats up very quickly. You need to keep the probe moving.

Laurie

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> We have a Respond Luminex Ultra Class IV laser on loan so I am reviewing how

many Joules to deliver to specific treatment areas. For some reason (I am

blaming pregnancy for everything these days) I am getting hung up on joint size

and how to move the probe.

>

> I apologize for the simplicity of this question in advance, but could someone

clarify a " small joint " versus a " large joint " ? So clearly large joint:

coxofemoral. Small - like interphalangeal? tarsal? Elbow and stifle seem to fall

somewhere in between.

>

> Also, the nson rep says this laser does not require continuous movement

like the Companion I looked at. Says hold over treament area for 10 seconds and

move probe is recommended. If I have a 40 second time frame to treat for a given

number of joules desired and have to move every 10 seconds, do I need to go over

each spot 4 times? (so that each part of the treatment are receives that number

of joules) Or is it just total joules for treatment of that region? The probe is

pretty large, so it covers most of my treamtent areas (elbow, stifle) almost

completely. I think I am either way over or way under thinking this.

>

> Sorry - maybe I missed basic laser. Also slightly paranoid about hurting

patients.

>

> Bridget

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[Guest guest]

> >

> > We have a Respond Luminex Ultra Class IV laser on loan so I am reviewing how

many Joules to deliver to specific treatment areas. For some reason (I am

blaming pregnancy for everything these days) I am getting hung up on joint size

and how to move the probe.

> >

> > I apologize for the simplicity of this question in advance, but could

someone clarify a " small joint " versus a " large joint " ? So clearly large joint:

coxofemoral. Small - like interphalangeal? tarsal? Elbow and stifle seem to fall

somewhere in between.

> >

> > Also, the nson rep says this laser does not require continuous movement

like the Companion I looked at. Says hold over treament area for 10 seconds and

move probe is recommended. If I have a 40 second time frame to treat for a given

number of joules desired and have to move every 10 seconds, do I need to go over

each spot 4 times? (so that each part of the treatment are receives that number

of joules) Or is it just total joules for treatment of that region? The probe is

pretty large, so it covers most of my treamtent areas (elbow, stifle) almost

completely. I think I am either way over or way under thinking this.

> >

> > Sorry - maybe I missed basic laser. Also slightly paranoid about hurting

patients.

> >

> > Bridget

> >

>

I am new to posting, so hope this works. We also have the Luminex Class IV

Laser. I was understanding that this only works point to point and not with

scanning. The manual it comes with doesn't mention the scanning, but that

sounds like it works also?