Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Has she done food elimination? Esp wheat? J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist menopausal joint pain A rather belated happy new year to everyone! I have a patient who I wrote to the list about a couple of months ago who has suffered from severe cluster headaches for most of her adult life. When she is in a cluster, the only relief she gets is from Sumatriptan tablets or injection when the pain is very severe. This patient came to me originally for help with her hot flushes and low mood, both these symptoms are now much improved, but I'm having little success with helping her with the joint stiffness and pain which started with her menopausal sx and gradually worsened in the last year. I've used Dioscurea, Apium, Filipendula, Curcuma (the latter combined with Boswellia and alongside Bromelain tablets) over the course of her tx all with little success. The only real relief she gets is when she has a course of steroids which are given during a severe cluster headache episode. She really doesn't want to resort to the steroids again (she's currently experiencing a cluster and is trying to manage just with the Sumatriptan) . I still feel the Sx are very like those of Polymyalgia rheumatica, her GP agreed with this but all tests have been negative and the consultant she was referred to said that " only old ladies suffer from that, you're too young " ! Xrays of hands and feet have only shown mild degenerative changes of thumb joints. She teaches dance and pilates (owns her own dance school) and has very good range of movement in all joints. She has a lot of family stress in her life but can cope with this most of the time - when she experiences a cluster she finds it unsurprisingly harder to cope and her mood dips. I would really appreciate any suggestions for helping with her joint stiffness and pain. If anyone has any suggestions for helping with cluster headaches that would also be great. Her current prescription is Trifolium 25 Asparagus racemosa 20 Cimicifuga 15 Rehmania 20 Hypericum 15 (when she's using the Sumatriptan, I use instead of the Hypericum) Tanacetum parth 7 I concentrated on her menopausal Sx and lifting her mood. Regards Sue Salmon Huddersfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hello Sue, I recently treated a patient with similar symptoms. She had already been receiving herbal treatment for many years (from another herbalist), and many different herbal approaches had been tried, with little lasting success. Alongside herbs, I prescribed fish oils for the inflammation and magnesium (as Citrate). She also began having acupuncture at this time. She is now very much better, fewer headaches, less joint pain and she has cut down her medication. She is now returning to work after a long absence. It's hard to say how much of her improvement is attributable to the acupuncture, but I feel the supplements were probably quite beneficial. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1 - Release Date: 11/01/2008 00:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hi Sue, a long shot but is she on any drug which might have m-s pain as a side-effect? E.g. statins, or, as I read recently, bisphosphonates? Love, Jan > > > > > A rather belated happy new year to everyone! > I have a patient who I wrote to the list about a couple of months ago who has > suffered from severe cluster headaches for most of her adult life. When she is > in a cluster, the only relief she gets is from Sumatriptan tablets or > injection when the pain is very severe. This patient came to me originally for > help with her hot flushes and low mood, both these symptoms are now much > improved, but I'm having little success with helping her with the joint > stiffness and pain which started with her menopausal sx and gradually worsened > in the last year. I've used Dioscurea, Apium, Filipendula, Curcuma (the latter > combined with Boswellia and alongside Bromelain tablets) over the course of > her tx all with little success. The only real relief she gets is when she has > a course of steroids which are given during a severe cluster headache episode. > She really doesn't want to resort to the steroids again (she's currently > experiencing a cluster and is trying to manage just with the Sumatriptan). I > still feel the Sx are very like those of Polymyalgia rheumatica, her GP agreed > with this but all tests have been negative and the consultant she was referred > to said that " only old ladies suffer from that, you're too young " ! Xrays of > hands and feet have only shown mild degenerative changes of thumb joints. She > teaches dance and pilates (owns her own dance school) and has very good range > of movement in all joints. She has a lot of family stress in her life but can > cope with this most of the time - when she experiences a cluster she finds it > unsurprisingly harder to cope and her mood dips. > I would really appreciate any suggestions for helping with her joint stiffness > and pain. If anyone has any suggestions for helping with cluster headaches > that would also be great. > Her current prescription is > Trifolium 25 > Asparagus racemosa 20 > Cimicifuga 15 > Rehmania 20 > Hypericum 15 (when she's using the Sumatriptan, I use > instead of the Hypericum) > Tanacetum parth 7 > > I concentrated on her menopausal Sx and lifting her mood. > Regards > Sue Salmon > Huddersfield > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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