Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 They certainly do however it is a hereditary and congenital condition so you see it very early on and typically manifests as increased skin extensibility and fragility initially and then they can develop some lameness. They normally have a history of easy skin lacerations, etc. They usually show lameness early in life up to 3 years of age or so. While it is a possibility, it seems pretty unlikely if it is an 8 year old dog. , VMD, CCRP Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group https://www.VOSM.com From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of klhdvm@... [klhdvm@...] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:07 AM To: VetRehab Subject: Re: Lax joints yes do dogs get Ehler's Danlos syndrome? Hooks, DVM Lax joints I have an 8yo M Samoyed that had an acute onset of laxity in his carpi. He has a history of some hyperextension in the carpi that was asymptomatic. 2 weeks ago the owner came home and the dog could not get up. Gradually the dog improved and now seems to be back to normal. However.... he is fundamentally walking on the ends of his radii and ulnas in the front legs and his hocks are definitely hyper flexed when walking. (If I can figure out how to upload a video of him walking I will do that). On exam both carpi can be hyperextended well beyond normal and the hocks can be flexed to the point that the tibia and tarsal bones are parallel. There is also laxity in all of the phalangeal joints and the MCP and MTP joints. He gets up and down with very little problem and moves remarkably well. The remainder of the physical was unremarkable. No history of any ticks on the dog. Any thoughts on what metabolic condition could be causing this??? Tracey DVM, CCRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Trying to send the video but no promises Tracey DVM, CCRT Sent from my iPhone 1 of 1 File(s) IMG_0062.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I agree with 's comments-this is laate in life to see this how about taking some survey and stress images so the joints can be evaluated other than palpation is there any pain when digitally palpating the joints Freedman VMD CCRT > > They certainly do however it is a hereditary and congenital condition so you > see it very early on and typically manifests as increased skin extensibility > and fragility initially and then they can develop some lameness. They > normally have a history of easy skin lacerations, etc. They usually show > lameness early in life up to 3 years of age or so. While it is a > possibility, it seems pretty unlikely if it is an 8 year old dog. > > > , VMD, CCRP > Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group > https://www.VOSM.com > ________________________________ > From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of > klhdvm@... [klhdvm@...] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:07 AM > To: VetRehab > Subject: Re: Lax joints > > > > yes > > do dogs get Ehler's Danlos syndrome? > > > > > Hooks, DVM > > > > Lax joints > > > I have an 8yo M Samoyed that had an acute onset of laxity in his carpi. He > has a history of some hyperextension in the carpi that was asymptomatic. 2 > weeks ago the owner came home and the dog could not get up. Gradually the > dog improved and now seems to be back to normal. However.... he is > fundamentally walking on the ends of his radii and ulnas in the front legs > and his hocks are definitely hyper flexed when walking. (If I can figure out > how to upload a video of him walking I will do that). On exam both carpi can > be hyperextended well beyond normal and the hocks can be flexed to the point > that the tibia and tarsal bones are parallel. There is also laxity in all of > the phalangeal joints and the MCP and MTP joints. He gets up and down with > very little problem and moves remarkably well. The remainder of the physical > was unremarkable. No history of any ticks on the dog. Any thoughts on what > metabolic condition could be causing this??? > > Tracey DVM, CCRT > > > > -- Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Consider immune mediated polyarthritis. Diagnostics - immune profile - RF, ANA, etc. and joint taps for cytology. Rick Wall, DVM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I saw this symptom once a few years ago in a female Alaska Husky who originally came for a second opinion of having seizures. She was middle-aged and spayed. Ended up being hypothyroid and that helped with the seizures. About a year after first seeing her, she began to drop her hocks and then her carpal joints. Within a year, it progressed to being extemely lax in other joints including her stifles. She began having troubles getting up and i realized it wasn't pain but that she simply couldn't get up anymore. I affectionately called her "rubber dog". Nothing we tried helped including prednisolone. Never did know what caused this. jeanne olson dvm north pole, alaska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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