Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hi everyone I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat the autoimmunity part of her problems? Many thanks bel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 toddannabel wrote: > I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked > hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her > thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus > and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details > from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, > yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat > the autoimmunity part of her problems? How much soy protein does she eat? Soy milk? Soy beans? Soy in any form not traditional (= miso, soy sauce, tempeh, tofu, etc.)? How does she fare if she ditches ALL modern soy foods, also avoiding " soy protein " , " vegetable protein " etc., in various products (especially sausages and the like)? Thanks Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I agree with Henrietta, and I also have had success with turmeric bringing down anti-thyroid antibodies. Vit D helps here too. J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist > > > I would like some advice regarding a young woman with > quite marked > > hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting > pulse is 96!. Her > > thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with > leonurus, lycopus > > and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask > for more details > > from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me > to say that, > > yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas > about how to treat > > the autoimmunity part of her problems? > > How much soy protein does she eat? Soy milk? Soy beans? Soy > in any form not > traditional (= miso, soy sauce, tempeh, tofu, etc.)? How > does she fare if she > ditches ALL modern soy foods, also avoiding " soy > protein " , " vegetable > protein " etc., in various products (especially > sausages and the like)? > > Thanks > Henriette > > -- > Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, > Finland > Henriette's herbal homepage: > http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hi bel There is good evidence for the effects of Lithospermum spp in treatment of hyperthyroidism including Graves Disease. Apparently one of the effects is to stop stimulation of the thyroid by antibodies. The Boraginaceae Family as a whole may also be worth considering. Both the Lamiaceae (which you have been giving) and Boraginaceae families contain quantities of rosmarinic acid which has relevance in this condition. Hope that helps Best wishes Craig _____ From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of toddannabel Sent: 26 November 2008 10:43 To: ukherbal-list Subject: autoimmune hyperthyroid Hi everyone I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat the autoimmunity part of her problems? Many thanks bel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1813 - Release Date: 26/11/2008 08:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I don't think the relationship between soya and thyroid function is that clear cut. There is some evidence that soy isoflavones are goitrogenic and depress thyroid function. There is a good article that summarises some of the research here: http://www.soyconnection.com/health_nutrition/pdf/SoyandThyroid.pdf Best wishes Craig _____ From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Henriette Kress Sent: 26 November 2008 13:44 To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: autoimmune hyperthyroid toddannabel wrote: > I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked > hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her > thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus > and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details > from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, > yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat > the autoimmunity part of her problems? How much soy protein does she eat? Soy milk? Soy beans? Soy in any form not traditional (= miso, soy sauce, tempeh, tofu, etc.)? How does she fare if she ditches ALL modern soy foods, also avoiding " soy protein " , " vegetable protein " etc., in various products (especially sausages and the like)? Thanks Henriette No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1813 - Release Date: 26/11/2008 08:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Regarding auto-immune aspect. I treated a patient with Graves disease very successfully, and feel the turning point in her treatment was marked by a severe and brief throat infection which we resolved with echinacea and galium. This infection was, I felt, precipitated by including poke root and blue flag in her mix to address a history recurrent throat infections in her early years that had been suppressed (and perhaps not totally cleared?) by abx. Previous to this, her condition had been somewhat resistant. Sally O > Hi everyone > I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked > hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her > thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus > and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details > from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, > yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat > the autoimmunity part of her problems? > Many thanks > bel > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Owner: Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I agree - Ive always understood the problems with soy ( from a physiological rather than the ecological / ethical point of view!) are to do with the inhibition of iodine uptake and so has a reducing impact on thyroid function regads ,annette Re: autoimmune hyperthyroid toddannabel wrote: > I would like some advice regarding a young woman with quite marked > hyperthyroidism. She's an athlete and her resting pulse is 96!. Her > thyroid levels have come down from 101 to 58 with leonurus, lycopus > and melissa plus nervines, but I advised her to ask for more details > from her GP re her tests, and she has just emailed me to say that, > yes, it is autoimmune. Does anyone have any ideas about how to treat > the autoimmunity part of her problems? How much soy protein does she eat? Soy milk? Soy beans? Soy in any form not traditional (= miso, soy sauce, tempeh, tofu, etc.)? How does she fare if she ditches ALL modern soy foods, also avoiding " soy protein " , " vegetable protein " etc., in various products (especially sausages and the like)? Thanks Henriette No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1813 - Release Date: 26/11/2008 08:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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