Re: Weaning off WP estrogen

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Val,

I like the sound of that 70 - 114 range, since I feel so good on Day 12 of the

WP when my

blood tests out at 113. I'm glad this Dr. Gillespie sees that as a good target

range.

>

> , it is hard to tell how you'll absorb a Vivelle patch compared to

> the WP cream. You'll just have to test and note how you feel. Larrian

> Gillespie MD says, post meno, E2 should be between 70 - 114.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of cynthiacooke2045

>

> Thanks, Valarie. My E2 level on WP was 113 on Day 12. My blood was drawn

> 12 hours

> after I applied my E cream the night before. Today happens to be Day 12

> again (still on

> the WP, with E+2), and sure enough, I feel sunny and emotionally resilient

> -- better than I

> have felt in weeks.

>

> Thanks for reminding me that it matters, how I feel. My doctors (I have

> two) seem so

> focused on cancer prevention. I appreciate their vigilance, but I do want

> to feel well

> emotionally.

>

> If I do a Vivelle .1 patch, do you think I'll go down much from 113? I

> suppose I will. I

> talked to my doctor yesterday and will write a separate message to the group

> about that.

>

[Guest guest]

You know you are right -- women get cancer whether they are using

hormones or not. But the doctors LOVE to put the blame on estrogen.

As you can see by the current protocols, women are given Tomoxifen to

suppress all estrogen. This keeps the cancer away? And how great

do you feel? I guess we must just be happy to be alive. All I know

is, that when I stop using E, I'm good for NOTHING.

>

> I have tried 2 patches. I actually might go back to them and see

how I feel.

> I would like to be able to change at least every other day but try

and tell

> a dr that. I watch their eyes get big because they all think I

should not

> use any E at all due to my history. It's been almost 10 years since

my

> surgery. I wonder why they care so much if I get cancer, anyways?

And why

> they are so sure I will? They don't even keep up on the most

current info.

> It's my body. If I do get it again, I'm certainly not going to them

for

> treatment, ha!

>

> I had a nurse practioner tell me, I could wait a few more years

before

> weaning off because of my age. Holy shit! I asked her what that

magic age

> WAS. She had no answer. Women get cancer on or off BHRT, HRT. They

need to

> be looking at all factors. There's a reason why it happens. It's

not just

> because of Estrogen. It's because the body is not processing that

Estrogen,

> which points to the liver. They need to start looking at those

things,

> instead of scaring us saying we are all going to die if we use

Estrogen. We

> were born with Estrogen (and all the other hormones). Anyways,

sorry, I went

> on a tangent.

>

> Liz