Re: adequan intra-articular

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Sally,If your question is - if you use the horse product for dogs? I have never used the horse product in dogs.Rick Wall, DVMThe Woodlands, TX

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My question was in adjunct to the original question regarding intra-articular use of Adequan.  It just occurred to me that there might be a difference between products and reactivity based on the presence or absence of the preservative, that's all.    Was not intending to confuse matter.  :-)

 Sally Suttenfield, DVM, CCRPhttp://www.fourpawsvetrehab.com/

 

Sally,If your question is - if you use the horse product for dogs?  I have never used the horse product in dogs.Rick Wall, DVM

The Woodlands, TX

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> hello All

> I have used Adequan in dogs for >20 years and began giving it SQ when

Leutipold did a study up here in racing sled dogs. There was only the horse

product then. I still use the equine 5cc vials in the dogs because i don't want

to inject preservatives any more than necessary. Have never had an abscess or

reaction. Used to keep it in the frig but now i go through the vials so quickly

that ione rarely lasts more than a couple of days. This might be unacceptable

for some, but it has worked well for me so far.

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> BTW, Adequan can freeze but it's not so good to get it too hot, according to

those who know at Leutipold.

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> Until recently, it was used in humans in Germany and marketed as Arteparon.

Since it's labeled here " for veterinary use only " , and we're

veterinarians....hmmm. Heard it really helps with aging knees and hips.

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> jeanne olson dvm

> north pole, alaska

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There is now a multi-dose 50 ml. (100mg/ml) equine product with preservative

from Luitpold. We are now using this in dogs or a generic HA product which have

used for years without problems. My own experience has been with many dogs

where IM/SQ adequan hasn't helped much, intra-articular injection has helped

tremendously.

But I don't inject more than 2 dogs a week (over maybe 30 years, but intially

all we had to use were steroids until horse products came on market) so don't

know how much that helps.

Sammi Flynn, DVM

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Sammi,I was not aware of the equine product however since I dispense Adequan to my clients it would not benefit my practice. I have to respectfully disagree with you however in SQ efficacy based on observations in my clinical practice, both in my primary and referral practices. I am of the opinion that compliance is crucial and as I mentioned previously, compliance increases when owners are taught to administer at home.Second, there is not a generic adequan, however there is a topical wound device with a similar chemical makeup that is promoted as such. This product is not to be injected although I have to have heard reports of it being used in place of Adequan. I think that it is important to remember that there are liability concerns when using a product such as the one you mentioned when there is an FDA approved product.Rick Wall, DVM

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I prefer to give a PSGAG like Legend into joints as opposed to Adequan. From my

experience SC Adequan works tremendously well in both dogs and cats and we teach

owners to give at home.

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> Sammi,

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> I was not aware of the equine product however since I dispense Adequan to my

clients it would not benefit my practice. I have to respectfully disagree with

you however in SQ efficacy based on observations in my clinical practice, both

in my primary and referral practices. I am of the opinion that compliance is

crucial and as I mentioned previously, compliance increases when owners are

taught to administer at home.

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> Second, there is not a generic adequan, however there is a topical wound

device with a similar chemical makeup that is promoted as such. This product is

not to be injected although I have to have heard reports of it being used in

place of Adequan. I think that it is important to remember that there are

liability concerns when using a product such as the one you mentioned when there

is an FDA approved product.

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> Rick Wall, DVM

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Oops, thanks for setting me straight Marti! Adequan = PSGAG, Legend = HA. Hope I

didn't confuse anyone, my apologies.

Mike

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> > > Sammi,

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> > > I was not aware of the equine product however since I dispense Adequan to

my clients it would not benefit my practice. I have to respectfully disagree

with you however in SQ efficacy based on observations in my clinical practice,

both in my primary and referral practices. I am of the opinion that compliance

is crucial and as I mentioned previously, compliance increases when owners are

taught to administer at home.

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> > > Second, there is not a generic adequan, however there is a topical wound

device with a similar chemical makeup that is promoted as such. This product is

not to be injected although I have to have heard reports of it being used in

place of Adequan. I think that it is important to remember that there are

liability concerns when using a product such as the one you mentioned when there

is an FDA approved product.

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> > > Rick Wall, DVM

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