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I want the new Members to be aware that there is no proven way to prevent

Retethering as of yet. There are Dr.'s that

are trying different things, but nothing has been proven completely

effective as of yet.

I just don't want anybody to get the wrong idea.

Lastly, there are those that are lucky enough not to have a Symptomatic

Retether...........even though, at times, it doesn't

seem that way. Retethering and Symptomatic Retethering are 2 different

things, when you get right down to it.

Me :)

Nebraska, USA

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did anything to help prevent it from

> re-tethering.

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I want the new Members to be aware that there is no proven way to prevent

Retethering as of yet. There are Dr.'s that

are trying different things, but nothing has been proven completely

effective as of yet.

I just don't want anybody to get the wrong idea.

Lastly, there are those that are lucky enough not to have a Symptomatic

Retether...........even though, at times, it doesn't

seem that way. Retethering and Symptomatic Retethering are 2 different

things, when you get right down to it.

Me :)

Nebraska, USA

mymocha@...

did anything to help prevent it from

> re-tethering.

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I believe that increased Sensitivity can be a Symptom. However, that area is

just Sensitive to me anyway........I think just because of the Surgeries.

Yes, I have had Spinal Fusion, with Rods. I really don't know what my Degree

of Curve was when I went in to have the Fusion. I can probably safely say it

was above 70 Degrees.

When I had my last Detethering, they had to remove some of the

Instrumentation and Bone Fusion to get to the Tether.

Just some of Brande's experience.........I hope it helps.

Me :)

Nebraska, USA

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Can tethered cord cause very sensitive skin areas??? If anyone has had

rod surgery, at what 'degree' of bend were you referred for the surgery??

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Chris

Thanks for you email.

I agree with you that doctors should be made more aware of the symptoms of SB

and TCS to make an early diagnosis. To me, in retrospect, it seems very

strange that it was detected when I was a lot younger. I have a very typical

birthmark over the affected area and when I was a baby one of my feet turned

in. My mum brought me to see the doctor about it and he referred her to a

pediatric consultant. Even he failed to notice something was amiss!

I had another MRI about four weeks ago and I am waiting to get feedback from

my neurosurgeon. Apparently the hold up is because they are trying to track

down my other scan to compare for deterioration.

I can't imagine having to go through the surgery another three times. How

long between each operation? and do you get any relief from the symptoms

inbetween times?

Thanks again.

Emma

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Penny,

Welcome to the group. I have had this surgery 4 times most recent March 21st. I

don't have the same kind of sb as your son but I wouldn't think the surgery

would be that different. If what they are doing is releasing the cord. For each

time I have had surgery they have explained there are a lot of risks. I was told

it could make things better ,worse or not help at all. My bladder is totally

unhooked because I have a urostomy for my urine. I am still at a loss as to why

I ended up with this and it seems everyone else caths to void urine. I thought

it was because of when I had my first back surgery (1969) when they realized my

bladder was still retaining urine they did the urostomy and I have worn the bag

for urine. I hope the others on the list can help you with the bladder issues

they all seem to have very good advice. Chris

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My son is 30. He was born w/ myelomeningocele on S1 S2. He is able to ambulate

but is quite awkward. He is also mentally challanged. He has had problems with

his urinary tract since birth. I was able to get control at age 14. This past

year we have had trouble with leakage and just recently he suffered severe

distention as the result of strictures. His urologist released them but now we

have no bladder control. Apparently the tethered cord is rearing its ugly head.

I have been referred to a neuro surgeon to have his cord released. I have done

some research but I would like to hear something from those who have had this

surgery.

Thanks

Penny

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Dear Criss

What type of SB do you have? I wonder why they didn't give you a supra pubic

cath. Is it very difficult to have a urostomy? Did the release of the tethered

cord cause any problems with your ambulation or bowels? These are the things I

am worried about. has had many surgeries on his kidneys and is legs ( he

was fortunate to save his legs) and I don't want him to loose his ability to

walk. What are some of the risks?

Thanks

Penny

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My son is 30. He was born w/ myelomeningocele on S1 S2. He is able to

ambulate but is quite awkward. He is also mentally challanged. He has had

problems with his urinary tract since birth. I was able to get control at age

14. This past year we have had trouble with leakage and just recently he

suffered severe distention as the result of strictures. His urologist released

them but now we have no bladder control. Apparently the tethered cord is rearing

its ugly head. I have been referred to a neuro surgeon to have his cord

released. I have done some research but I would like to hear something from

those who have had this surgery.

Thanks

Penny

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Dear Criss

What type of SB do you have? I wonder why they didn't give you a supra pubic

cath. Is it very difficult to have a urostomy? Did the release of the tethered

cord cause any problems with your ambulation or bowels? These are the things I

am worried about. has had many surgeries on his kidneys and is legs ( he

was fortunate to save his legs) and I don't want him to loose his ability to

walk. What are some of the risks?

Thanks

Penny

new member

My son is 30. He was born w/ myelomeningocele on S1 S2. He is able to

ambulate but is quite awkward. He is also mentally challanged. He has had

problems with his urinary tract since birth. I was able to get control at age

14. This past year we have had trouble with leakage and just recently he

suffered severe distention as the result of strictures. His urologist released

them but now we have no bladder control. Apparently the tethered cord is rearing

its ugly head. I have been referred to a neuro surgeon to have his cord

released. I have done some research but I would like to hear something from

those who have had this surgery.

Thanks

Penny

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Chris

It certainly seems that the surgery is by no means a miricle cure. However if

it helps improve quality of life and stop the condition progressing for a

certain amount of time then I guess its worth it.

I was interested in what you were saying about having children. What

implications does pregnancy etc have on TCS and vice versa? I was offered

some sort of genetic counselling but I didnt really feel I needed it yet.

Did you have this before having children?

Emma

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Chris

It certainly seems that the surgery is by no means a miricle cure. However if

it helps improve quality of life and stop the condition progressing for a

certain amount of time then I guess its worth it.

I was interested in what you were saying about having children. What

implications does pregnancy etc have on TCS and vice versa? I was offered

some sort of genetic counselling but I didnt really feel I needed it yet.

Did you have this before having children?

Emma

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Chris

It certainly seems that the surgery is by no means a miricle cure. However if

it helps improve quality of life and stop the condition progressing for a

certain amount of time then I guess its worth it.

I was interested in what you were saying about having children. What

implications does pregnancy etc have on TCS and vice versa? I was offered

some sort of genetic counselling but I didnt really feel I needed it yet.

Did you have this before having children?

Emma

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Emma,

If you learn anything from all this it is that it is very important to keep

track of where you records and pictures are. I went through 2 years of trying to

get through to people that this wasn't something new that it was something I had

had for a long time the problem was I hadn't had to see anyone for it in twenty

years. You see I had my first sb surgery at age6 and six months later they did

the ostomy for the urine I seem to be about the only one on the list that

doesn't cath or have bladder problems but I do deal with Kidney stones and

uti's. As far as my sb I was good untill age 18 and I had another surgery

because of pulling up my spine and trouble walking and bad headaches. Theydid a

partial detether then and 3 years later again. I had also carried 2 children in

this span of time . My nsg at the time had told me no more. I had the same nsg

for all 3 of those surgeries on my back. I was never symptom free but my

symptoms were light other than the kidney trouble. It had been 15 years since I

had seen a nsg when I started having serious problems again and They were worse

than I had ever dealt with. By the time I had found someone who could deal with

it he thought it might be to late to fix. He was straight with me about

everything that was happening to me and I really appreciated that. He had also

explained that I had never had a full detether. So he did the lamenectomy and

totally removed the Lipoma (fatty mass) that was tethering my cord. I feel like

a new person and he is surprised how well things are going. I'm not sure how

long it's going to last but I will take what I can get. LOL I also had two other

children since the last surgery 20 years ago so maybe that is what stirred

things up. So to answer your question the times varied in between my surgeries

but I did get relief from each one. I know everybody is different and if you

read other people on the list stories you will soon learn that. Chris

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Chris

Thanks for you email.

I agree with you that doctors should be made more aware of the symptoms of SB

and TCS to make an early diagnosis. To me, in retrospect, it seems very

strange that it was detected when I was a lot younger. I have a very typical

birthmark over the affected area and when I was a baby one of my feet turned

in. My mum brought me to see the doctor about it and he referred her to a

pediatric consultant. Even he failed to notice something was amiss!

I had another MRI about four weeks ago and I am waiting to get feedback from

my neurosurgeon. Apparently the hold up is because they are trying to track

down my other scan to compare for deterioration.

I can't imagine having to go through the surgery another three times. How

long between each operation? and do you get any relief from the symptoms

inbetween times?

Thanks again.

Emma

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Emma,

The surgery did improve the quality of my life but if you read the list there

are problems too. There are many risks with the surgery. My doc put it like this

It can make things better, worse or not change anything. So to me it was a

chance I was willing to take. That and I felt very comfortable with my nsg. I

had a neurologist that had referred me to the group of nsg's I see and she was

very careful in picking the best man for the job. To me that is important when

you here other doctors singing the praises of one of there people. She didn't

just pick someone local she did her homework. She understood how important it

was to me this time around to have someone I felt comfortable with. I had had

the same nsg for the first 3 surgeries and he was great but not an option this

time around. From reading others stories I have basically learned that surgery

doesn't really fix bladder and bowl issues but it can give pain relief and slow

down progression if all goes well. There are definitely no guarantees.

As far as children go until I got pregnant for my first I didn't realize this

was something that could be passed on. I had ended up with it and there was no

family history. I had amniocentesis for all four of my children and found before

birth that they were all perfectly healthy. So yes when it becomes time for you

to have children the genetic counseling is important. They explained to me

although I didn't have family history my children were high risk because I have

it. I hope this answers your questions. Chris

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Chris

It certainly seems that the surgery is by no means a miricle cure. However if

it helps improve quality of life and stop the condition progressing for a

certain amount of time then I guess its worth it.

I was interested in what you were saying about having children. What

implications does pregnancy etc have on TCS and vice versa? I was offered

some sort of genetic counselling but I didnt really feel I needed it yet.

Did you have this before having children?

Emma

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Hello

I am also a new member. I am 20 and one of my reasons for joining the group

was to try to find someone of a similar age with the same condidtion. My

tethered cord was only detected when I was 17 and I had my operation when I

was 18 - now it looks as if i have retethering symptoms.

What symptoms did you have that made the doctors think you might need surgery

again? I am interested to know because I am facing a similar situation

myself.

Emma

Northern Ireland

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Welcome!! You have come to the right place. I have had 4 detetherings most

recent 8 weeks ago. My first at 6 second at 18 third at 20 and most recent at 40

that was just 8 weeks ago. I don't have the Arnold Chiari Malformation but

others in the group do they will be able to send you in the right direction on

what exactly it is. I have SB which was found at age 6. I also have a syrinx but

doesn't at this point seem to be causing any trouble. What kind of symptoms are

you having? As you can see I went 20years in between my last two surgeries so I

did fair pretty well with all four all though this time things are taking longer

to heal. Do you have a nsg that deals with detetherings and SB? Well just stay

in touch and ask whatever we are all here to help anyway we can. Chris-----

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From: i_didnt_do_it16

To: tetheredspinalcord

Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:54 PM

Subject: new member

Hello!

I just joined the group over the weekend. I have been trying to

post through e-mail but it would not go through. Well I am 17 years

old from Arizona, I have Spina Bifida. I have had 2 tethered cord

surgeries one at age 7 and one at age 8. I just found out a couple

weeks ago that I may need surgery again. I also found out I have

Arnold Chiari Malformation (im not sure what it even is yet). I

joined the group to try and find people who have had multiple TC

surgeries and what their outcomes were. Well I hope to talk to you

all soon.

~ M.~

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Hi ,

My daughter has the Chiari malformation and had decompression surgery almost 3

years ago. She had thickened filum release just the first of this year. She is

only 7 or I would have her correspond with you directly :-)

This group is wonderfully supportive. (I still have far more questions than

answers, so mostly I lurk and try to educate myself so I can better advocate for

). When you are interested in pursuing more about Chiari malformation

there is a support group for that too -- I just love the internet! WACMA

(stands for world arnold chiari malformation assoc.) has several groups. I

subscribe to wacma parents group and the regular adult group too. Not sure, but

I think there may even be a teen group so you could talk to some other young

adults like yourself.

If there is anything I can answer for you about Chiari, ask away. (I know only

enough to get me in trouble though, LOL). Welcome to the group.

's mom

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Hello!

I just joined the group over the weekend. I have been trying to

post through e-mail but it would not go through. Well I am 17 years

old from Arizona, I have Spina Bifida. I have had 2 tethered cord

surgeries one at age 7 and one at age 8. I just found out a couple

weeks ago that I may need surgery again. I also found out I have

Arnold Chiari Malformation (im not sure what it even is yet). I

joined the group to try and find people who have had multiple TC

surgeries and what their outcomes were. Well I hope to talk to you

all soon.

~ M.~

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Hi Norma,

Welcome to the group. I hope you are able to get a handle on your pain

while working with your doctors. This is a wonderful group of caring people.

There is so much compassion! This group has literally saved my life on many

occasions. I look forward to getting to know you.

Kathleen in Calif.

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Norma>> I'd like to be more active because that would help the fibro, but my

weight stops me from doing that. I see the doctor tomorrow and hopefully

she can come up with a plan for to get out of this cycle of

discouragement.>>>

Hi Norma,

Welcome to the group but sorry you have pain. As far as being active...have

you tried water excercise? It is easy on the joints and weight doesn't

matter in the water. I joined my local YMCA and go to the arthritis

aquatics class and love it! It is real easy but I know it helps me because

when I can't get there for a while I feel worse. Also, if you are like me

and on a fixed income, the Y has finacial help available so you pay

according to your income.

I hope you find something that helps and I hope you look into water

excercise...it's great for your mood too!

Take care,

Ann in Pa.

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Kary wrote:

> My name is P. Kary. I am a new member of the group and this is my first

post. I thought I would post a short background on myself

Hello and welcome to the group. I'm sorry you need to be here, but glad

that you found us.

You have a lot to contend with. I wish those damn land mines had never been

invented. I also wish that surgeons, who aren't 100% sure that they are going

to relieve the pain, would stay away from the operating table. We have quite a

few members who came out of surgery in worse shape than when they went in.

Hopefully, those of us who post to the list will remember to write in paragraphs

and put in spacing, so that whatever reading program you use doesn't go berserk!

<grin>

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Lyndi

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Welcome ,

Glad you found us. This is a wonderful place with caring, informative people,

I look forward to more of your posts.

Most importantly, as I was only 2 in 69, I would like to take this opportunity

to say THANK YOU!!! As with the Iraq war now, it isn't an issue of if you agree

with it. It is the men and women that we ALL need to stand behind. I truly

thank you for what you gave.

Blessed Be, Lori in California

I am a Vietnam Veteran who is blind, partiality deaf, and have severe injuries

to my right hip and leg. The injuries which I just listed werefrom a mine

explosion in 1969.

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Hello ,

Welcome to the group. It is a wonderful group of people who are very

informative and compassionate. I hope you will find the community here that

your

looking for. I've been a member for some years now and it's been a life saver

for me.

Kathleen in NC

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Welcome to the group Jen. Sorry you need to be here but happy you found us

:-) I am 37 had chronic pain due to back problems...etc for about 7 years

now. This is an awesome group of people with a wealth of knowledge and an

unending source of inspiration. I hope to learn more of you in future posts

as you will learn about us.

Blessed Be, Lori in California

on 11/22/04 8:13 PM, tigeethecat at tigeethecat@... wrote:

Hi! I am a new member to the group so I thought I would introduce myself.

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good to hear from u. u have been through a lot. i have had lower back

pain since i was 13 and i am 24 now.

>

>

Cate wrote:

> I am a new member. I am 35 yrs old, work full time, go to school

> and take care of a 4yr.old daughter.

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Ann wrote:

<<< They say that stretching and exercising is suppose to make me feel

better, but I have yet to notice any difference. >>>

Hi and welcome to the group...great people here and lots of knowledge and

understanding. I hope you find what you need here.

I was wondering about your statement above...who is the " they " you are

talking about? Have you been to doctors and do you have a diagnosis yet?

If not that is the first thing you need to do and then you will have a

better idea of what will help you.

Don't worry so much about what your Mom has (other than to help her of

course)...I'm just saying it doesn't mean that is how you will end up.

Again...welcome and please feel free to ask any questions you have...someone

will try and answer.

Take care,

the other Ann

I will sign my post Ann in Pa. so we don't get confused.

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OUCH, your way to young to have to be dealing with that. I hope you at least of

some sort of pain relief.

Take care,

Cate

tantrum23hb wrote:

good to hear from u. u have been through a lot. i have had lower back

pain since i was 13 and i am 24 now.

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I really think you need to see an ortho, or neuro and get an MRI done to

see what is really going on. Then you and your doctor, together, can make a

plan to help you out.

Blessed Be, Lori in California

on 11/24/04 2:18 PM, tantrum23hb at tantrum23hb@... wrote:

so what do u think.

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