Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed question

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How long do you keep a calf on milk? When do you normally wean them?

Also, do you just feed grass and hay or do you supplement with grains? What kind

of grains and how much. We have our first cow and she calved in May with a

little heifer. Cow is full blood Jersey, calf is half Jersey and looks like

maybe half Guernsey, brown/red and white spotted.

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> I've found that when my calf is 2 months old it is able to drink all the

> milk my Dexter/Jersey cow makes overnight, if I leave them together. If I

> separate them overnight, I make sure to only milk out 3 quarters of my cow's

> udder. My cow knows that the calf will at least get one quarter after being

> hungry all night, so she's more willing to let down for me. You might try

> that - perhaps not even touching a certain one of her teats. I don't worry

> about mastitis because I know the calf will milk all her quarters thoroughly

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Here, we never wean a calf before three months of age. And we leave them on milk longer if we have the milk, or if the calf is not as big as we'd like. Weaning should always be based on size and age, NEVER just age alone.

If you have good management and good quality forage, you may be able to just feed grasses and hays. Especially if you can grow some legumes(alfalfa and clovers). But base your decision on how your cow looks. If too thin on this diet, you will need to feed some sort of supplement. I prefer to steer clear of corns and soys, if possible.

If you have *just grass*, nothing special.....you will probably need to supplement with grains. But the basis of your management should always be your roughage. If feeding grains, it should make up a small amount of their diet.

Make sure you have a good loose mineral out at all times for your girls.

Jerseys do come in paints and can look a lot like a guernsey when young. Unless her bone structure is more like a Guernsey, you may have a Jersey calf there. DixonOzark JewelsNubians and Lamanchaswww.ozarkjewels.net

Subject: Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed questionTo: RawDairy Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 7:20 AM

How long do you keep a calf on milk? When do you normally wean them?Also, do you just feed grass and hay or do you supplement with grains? What kind of grains and how much. We have our first cow and she calved in May with a little heifer. Cow is full blood Jersey, calf is half Jersey and looks like maybe half Guernsey, brown/red and white spotted. Thanks,Jackie>> > The 2 months calf relay on Milk basicly , after 4 months they shoud be> eating grass and milk to develop a healhfy rumen for the rest off there life> !> > > > > > Success !> > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/message/50161;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMHU0Z3FvB> F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwOTYwOTQzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk1MARtc2dJZAM1MDE2M> QRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzQ0Nzg5ODc4> Milk Letdown> question > > > Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:03 am (PDT) . Posted by: > > > <mailto:janetdr@...?subject=Re%3A%20Milk%20Letdown%20question>> "Janet " posspix > > > I've found that when my calf is 2 months old it is able to drink all the> milk my Dexter/Jersey cow makes overnight, if I leave them together. If I> separate them overnight, I make sure to only milk out 3 quarters of my cow's> udder. My cow knows that the calf will at least get one quarter after being> hungry all night, so she's more willing to

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Gosh, , do you think you could tell if she is part Guernsey with a picture

of her? I could try to post a pic in photos...

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> > I've found that when my calf is 2 months old it is able to drink all the

> > milk my Dexter/Jersey cow makes overnight, if I leave them together. If I

> > separate them overnight, I make sure to only milk out 3 quarters of my cow's

> > udder. My cow knows that the calf will at least get one quarter after being

> > hungry all night, so she's more willing to let down for me. You might try

> > that - perhaps not even touching a certain one of her teats. I don't worry

> > about mastitis because I know the calf will milk all her quarters thoroughly

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Pics are iffy, but it might be possible to make an educated guess. Guernseys have longer bones, longer face, bigger frame, sometimes a bonier frame, etc. We could make a guess anyway and I love calf pics.LOL!! DixonOzark JewelsNubians and Lamanchaswww.ozarkjewels.net

Subject: Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed questionTo: RawDairy Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 2:02 PM

Gosh, , do you think you could tell if she is part Guernsey with a picture of her? I could try to post a pic in photos...Thanks, Jackie>

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Ok, let me see if I can do this... Look in photos.. Ok?

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> > > I've found that when my calf is 2 months old it is able to drink all the

> > > milk my Dexter/Jersey cow makes overnight, if I leave them together. If I

> > > separate them overnight, I make sure to only milk out 3 quarters of my

cow's

> > > udder. My cow knows that the calf will at least get one quarter after

being

> > > hungry all night, so she's more willing to let down for me. You might try

> > > that - perhaps not even touching a certain one of her teats. I don't worry

> > > about mastitis because I know the calf will milk all her quarters

thoroughly

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I can post a more recent one if you like. I will go out and take it of her... I

think she was about 2 months old in this pic.

Jackie

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Ok, too much white to be Jersey or Guernsey would be my guess. Not sure on the cross...........maybe red Holstien or Ayrshire??

Pretty!! DixonOzark JewelsNubians and Lamanchaswww.ozarkjewels.net

Subject: Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed questionTo: RawDairy Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 3:51 PM

I can post a more recent one if you like. I will go out and take it of her... I think she was about 2 months old in this pic.Jackie

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Oh wow! Well I guess her size will tell us something in the end. If she is

Holstein, we will probably sell her. We could never use that much milk...

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Or maybe Milking shorthorn, they can come in mostly white and even all white. But that head doesn't look as Shorthorn to me. I would be hoping Milking Shorthorn as I LOVE them.=)

We have had many Jersey/Holstiens over the years who made fine home milk cows. They don't give as much as Holstiens, and a little more than Jerseys. Depending on how you feed, A Jersey/Holstien can make a really nice home milker. DixonOzark JewelsNubians and Lamanchaswww.ozarkjewels.net

Subject: Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed questionTo: RawDairy Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 5:57 PM

Oh wow! Well I guess her size will tell us something in the end. If she is Holstein, we will probably sell her. We could never use that much milk...Thanks> > > > Subject: Re: Milk Letdown question/now calf and feed question> To: RawDairy > Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 3:51 PM> > > > Â > > > > I can post a more recent one if you like. I will go out and take it of her... I think she was about 2 months old in this pic.> Jackie>