Placebo and the warm,sympathetic therapist effect..

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I'd like to branch off to this subject since I have some experience with it. Having been to many therapies over the years and having experienced the transference and other effects of having a warm, caring human being interested in you, I can say that there is relief from some of the symptoms one might be suffering from. Anxiety, fears, depression, even being bothered by noises or the like can be temporarily reduced to the point that it is hard to tell whether the therapy they are using is actually working or it is there interest in us that makes you feel

better. Feeling cared about and "loved" effects the endocrine system and our body releases endorphins and other hormones that make us feel better. Intense exercise has the same effect(my 'drug" of choice) as does pharmaceutical drugs,alcohol and other natural substances. But this effect is usually short lived from my experience. So many people become addicted to this feeling and go to basically ineffective therapies for years to get their "fix", but are not really getting cured. It keeps the psychologists in business but since we are looking to really cure Misophonia, something more permanent and effective is going to have to be developed, if it hasn't already. I think this may also be part of the placebo effect that therapies have. Just giving a person hope has the same effect, and I think can make biochemical changes in our

bodies. We do need hope (finding this website has given me hope), but false hope is kind of a rip off and not really a cure for anything. I am not a professional and certainly no expert, but this is my experience so far dealing with this subject, for what it is worth. I would love to hear any other opinions on this. Mike To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: Help

Sorry to nitpick but this is what I meant when I asked if people could change the subject line when changing the subject. This string originally asked for advice in coping with sounds in an office and has morphed into a debate about neurofeedback. I don't work in an office but am interested in hearing what people have to say about NFB. And I already responded to the original message so I would not have read these posts if there were a lot of emails to sort through.When Audrey wrote, she was responding to 's question about office work and suggested NFB. But when Dr. J wrote, it was no longer about the original subject and I think a change in subject would have been helpful at that point. There was some discussion of how to make this more user-friendly, especially if the numbers increase

significantly after the

20/20 program, so, I thought it was worth repeating my request. Also, a digest reader asked that we delete previous posts in our replies -- except to show what specifically we are responding to -- and a lot of us are doing that. Thanks

> I am sorry, this kind of therapy has been around a while and some pretty wild claims have been made about other conditions or syndromes as to how well it works. Be very cautious and remember there is an enormous placebo effect in just about all of those kinds of treatments, warm sympathetic provider or therapist makes us all feel better.

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> Be careful about the fees. This can run up a bunch. Most insurance companies will not pay for neuro feedback.

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> > There was a person who wrote in to this site suggesting that Neurofeedback helped him and his son with their symptoms. I have started treatments myself- I dont' know if it will work but I'm very hopeful as the Dr says he's had positive results from children he's treated with ADD who also have Misophonia. It is costly but some people have been able to have their insurance pay- just a thought. I'll let people on this site know how it's working for me after a couple months of treatments. Just remember you're not alone and there is hope:)

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