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I quit eating wheat, dairy, alcohol (occasional beer), sugar.... I ate alot

of sweets., caffeine, ie chocolate, tea... only drank coffee occasionally, am

eating alot of broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage..

I haven't been tested since May since I don't suffer from many symptoms, but

the goiter I had has all but disappeared. I will be making an appt to be

retested next week.

Billie

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I just read in an Alternative Medicine book that 1/2 head of cabbage daily

can be as effective as ATD's in blocking thyroid hormone production. Has

anyone tried it? I read somewhere else that it had to be raw cabbage, not

sure my stomach's up for that much raw cabbage, have other people heard

anything about this? Anyone have a really good coleslaw recipe?

Thanks, Nissa

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>I quit eating wheat, dairy, alcohol (occasional beer), sugar.... I ate alot

>of sweets., caffeine, ie chocolate, tea... only drank coffee occasionally,

am

>eating alot of broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage..

>I haven't been tested since May since I don't suffer from many symptoms,

but

>the goiter I had has all but disappeared. I will be making an appt to be

>retested next week.

>

>Billie

>

>

>

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Yes,

most importantly you need to reduce dietary iodine. Thyroid hormone is 67%

iodine. And iodine is a common trigger for autoimmune thryoid disease.

Dairy has high amounts of iodine and that's why you're told to avoid dairy.

You need to keep iodine less than 150 mcg daily. The average American diet

provides 300-700 mcg daily. Fast food diets and diets high in processed foods

provide an excess of 1,000 mcg daily. Anything pre-packaged has high amounts of

iodine.

Goitrogens block iodine absorption so they help reduce the amount of iodine

you're getting from food. You want to add at least 1.5 cups of goitrogens to

your daily diet and watch for hidden sources of iodine in red dyes,

multivitamins with iodine, etc.

You also want to avoid sugar, aspartame and saturated fats since they

stimulate the immune system. And people who are sensitive to caffeine or have

hyper

symptoms, need to avoid its use. Take care, Elaine

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Thanks, I will see if I can find the book.

I will also ask my doctor about changing to nystatin. She mentioned

that she would have to check my liver on a regular basis as long as I

was taking diflucan.

I was just reading about Three Lac and Oxygen Elements Plus on the web.

Can you tell me anything about them?

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Hi, I'm new here. But, I'd like to offer some suggestions.

You are correct about no sugar, alcohol and wheat products. Also you should

avoid vinegar, processed foods, etc... But, I find it helpful to focus on the

things we can eat.

Green leafy veggies, most veggies, I believe (except potatoes), the starch

turns to sugar quickly. Meat (Make sure the animals were not treated with

antibiotics or steroids), Eggs, and seafood. Believe me, I know how you feel

about

there being NOTHING to eat! It just takes some getting use to. Do you like to

cook? If so, then your in better shape then some. You can create your own meals

as you go.

The yeast diet is very contriditrary. One book says you can eat it, the next

says you can't.

Good Luck!

Tammy

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Thanks for your help! Much appreciated.

Healing1003@... wrote:Hi, I'm new here. But, I'd like to offer some

suggestions.

You are correct about no sugar, alcohol and wheat products. Also you should

avoid vinegar, processed foods, etc... But, I find it helpful to focus on the

things we can eat.

Green leafy veggies, most veggies, I believe (except potatoes), the starch

turns to sugar quickly. Meat (Make sure the animals were not treated with

antibiotics or steroids), Eggs, and seafood. Believe me, I know how you feel

about

there being NOTHING to eat! It just takes some getting use to. Do you like to

cook? If so, then your in better shape then some. You can create your own meals

as you go.

The yeast diet is very contriditrary. One book says you can eat it, the next

says you can't.

Good Luck!

Tammy

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I think everyone here should visit this website:

http://www.wholeapproach.com

http://www.wholeapproach.com/diet/foodlists.html

It has helped me out tremendously. There's lots of candida recipes,

and information on nearly everything candida related.

I know it's tough but, Happy Healing!

Tammy

> Hi,

>

> What exactly is the anti-candida diet? I know that it wheat, flour,

> sugar, and alcohol are to be avoided, as are most processed foods?

> Can anybody give me more clarification and guidelines? Thanks a lot!

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>The best way that I can think of for you to

get around them is to get a doctor's note saying he needs to be on the diet<

Thankyou. The reason I reacted so much to this newest round about the diet is

BECAUSE they have letters from two different specialists that Tristan is to be

on the diet at home and at school. Dr. 's office is going to send a

letter addressing this so MAYBE they will be satisfied? In their defense, it

may be because Tristan is still so thin, and they may believe it is because of

the diet, though they know the large amount of food I send, and he does eat most

of it. His Mom has always been thin (petite) she wears size 2 or 4. So

genetics probably plays into as well as the malabsorption issues, and like I

said before he doesn't like baked goods which is probably where we get a lot of

our calories.

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>The best way that I can think of for you to

get around them is to get a doctor's note saying he needs to be on the diet<

Thankyou. The reason I reacted so much to this newest round about the diet is

BECAUSE they have letters from two different specialists that Tristan is to be

on the diet at home and at school. Dr. 's office is going to send a

letter addressing this so MAYBE they will be satisfied? In their defense, it

may be because Tristan is still so thin, and they may believe it is because of

the diet, though they know the large amount of food I send, and he does eat most

of it. His Mom has always been thin (petite) she wears size 2 or 4. So

genetics probably plays into as well as the malabsorption issues, and like I

said before he doesn't like baked goods which is probably where we get a lot of

our calories.

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hi evelyn! well, that's a hard-to-answer question for me. Different diets work

well for different people. what works well for some don't work well for others.

also, it depends on what kind of medical problems you have other than

hypothyroidism. do you have an autoimmune disorder like Hashimoto's disease,

rheumatoid arthritis, type I diabetes, etc?

It also depends on your personal food preferences and if you have food allergies

and/or sensitivies. Many people have certain dietary restrictions based on their

religious beliefs. Other people have financial considerations to keep in mind

regarding diet.

How much weight do you need to lose?

sorry I can't answer that question easily for you, but it's hard without knowing

a lot of these things I've mentioned, plus there's just not one standard diet

out there that's right for every single person.

Check out the archives of this group and you will find an unbelievable amount of

information regarding diet.

In the meantime, if you don't think some of the questions are too personal and

are comfortable sharing some more information, then it might be easier to answer

your question.

take care, sheila

Lyn <silverback212000@...> wrote:

Hi

Can anyone tell me what kind of diet would 1 help me shed the many

pounds I have put on due to the Hypothyroidism and 2 would work well

with the thyroxine?

Very many thanx

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Hi Lyn,

You will hear that diets are individualistic, and that is true.

However, a good start is the following:

1. Do consume good fats - Olive oil, fish tabs, coconut oil.

2. Limit processed foods - if you have an autoimmune disorder they

will aggravate matters. Try sticking with fresh veggies.

3. Limit carbs, have them but stay away from white carbs. Instead go

for high fiber, brown rice and wheat products.

4. If you have Hashimotos add anti-imflammatory products such as

pinneapple.

5. If you have Hashimotos stay away from Soy, raw broccoli and other

gitrogenic? veggies.

Personally I consume soy but no where near the time I take my meds.

I also am on T3 so don't have to worry about the conversion issues

that soy may cause.

To lose weight I personnally have found grapefruit consumption

helpful. I have not heard any board feedback on this so I may be the

exception.

Good luck!

> Hi

>

> Can anyone tell me what kind of diet would 1 help me shed the many

> pounds I have put on due to the Hypothyroidism and 2 would work

well

> with the thyroxine?

>

> Very many thanx

>

>

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There is some evidence that most thyroid patients do well on a low-carbohydrate,

moderate fat diet. I have found that this works for me.

Lyn <silverback212000@...> wrote:

Hi

Can anyone tell me what kind of diet would 1 help me shed the many

pounds I have put on due to the Hypothyroidism and 2 would work well

with the thyroxine?

Very many thanx

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ty for taking time out to help me much appreciated!!!

--- <melmac2525@...> wrote:

> There is some evidence that most thyroid patients do

> well on a low-carbohydrate, moderate fat diet. I

> have found that this works for me.

>

>

> Lyn <silverback212000@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> Can anyone tell me what kind of diet would 1 help me

> shed the many

> pounds I have put on due to the Hypothyroidism and 2

> would work well

> with the thyroxine?

>

> Very many thanx

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Yes, this stuff has been backed up by scientific study.

I was a vegetarian at one time, as well, and I did go back to eating meat

because of the hypothyroidism. It is very difficult to avoid all of the

goitrogenic foods AND get proper protein amounts AND avoid anemia AND not have

anything interfere with your thyroid medicine if you are trying to be

vegetarian. Additionally, soy is a phytoestrogen, and there are risks to eating

large amounts of it.

Here is a starting place:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm

This actually has a reference from a scientific journal:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/history/topic/16800-1.html

Here is an article from the American Dietetic Association:

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0822/3_101/72764231/print.jhtml

poorlittlepepper <dnsbnn@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have just read the post regarding the avoidance of brassica

vegetables, water cress and turnips, also uncooked flaxseed, peanuts

and soy.

Is there scientific evidence to back this? I am a vegan, have been

for 20 years so vegetables are vital to me. I was always told that

all these had anti cancer properties and cress a good source of

vitamins and iron. This doesn't really leave many vegetables to eat.

I consume huge plates of vegetables, often uncooked as well. I eat a

huge amount of soya products including soya milk, soya mince, burgers

etc. Are beans and lentils also off limits? Are all fruits safe to

eat? I always thought I was eating a really healthy diet. I would

like to read any scientific studies backing this claim. Can anyone

direct me to any. Many thanks

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right on Melissia!!!!

> Hi,

> I have just read the post regarding the avoidance of brassica

> vegetables, water cress and turnips, also uncooked flaxseed,

peanuts

> and soy.

>

> Is there scientific evidence to back this? I am a vegan, have been

> for 20 years so vegetables are vital to me. I was always told that

> all these had anti cancer properties and cress a good source of

> vitamins and iron. This doesn't really leave many vegetables to

eat.

> I consume huge plates of vegetables, often uncooked as well. I eat

a

> huge amount of soya products including soya milk, soya mince,

burgers

> etc. Are beans and lentils also off limits? Are all fruits safe to

> eat? I always thought I was eating a really healthy diet. I would

> like to read any scientific studies backing this claim. Can anyone

> direct me to any. Many thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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are you having a lot of other hypoT symptoms? maybe you need increase in your

medication or to change thyroid meds.

check out the archives this week for diet info. Someone else just asked a

similar question a few days ago and there's a lot of information from just this

week alone.

Here's what I recently posted to someone else. Hugs, Sheila

hypothyroidism/message/14967

<bludress@...> wrote:

I have been hypo for three years...have gained about 30 lbs....cant

seem to manage to get it off...what is the best or the most

successful diet...i hate that word......that one can stay on and will

keep energy up....

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I would check out mercola.com and do a search there. good luck :)

----Original Message Follows----

From: " poorlittlepepper " <dnsbnn@...>

I would

like to read any scientific studies backing this claim. Can anyone

direct me to any. Many thanks

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Just to clarify -- Sandy is following a low-protein diet because of her PBC. Others need a low-protein diet to avoid ammonia build-up.

However - IMPORTANT -- not everyone with AIH should eat a low-protein diet. My GI and my GP said that most of us with AIH should be eating a balanced diet with plenty of nutrition, including plenty of protein.

Harper

In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:55:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

Message: 3 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:18:33 -0000 From: "silkybfp" <silkybfp@...>Subject: Re: New to group - Diet> Anyone else here do anything special by means of the diet?> > coraHi Cora,Nothing special dietary for the AIH, but for the PBC I'm on a low fat, low protein, high carb diet. The low protein is the hardest part to deal with. Fortunately, I don't like seafood (imagine that - a New Englander who hates seafood!) so not being able to eat it isn't a problem! Sometimes I just crave a steak or a burger and will occasionally indulge myself, even though I know I'll pay for it (cramping, gas, bloat, etc.).Sandy C.

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this is what i do...whole grains, veggies, protein...eat foods with low GI

and/or low glycemic load. sheila

tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:

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by Baar

Looking for a diet to help beat Type 2 diabetes? Two long-term

studies suggest there's more than a grain of truth in the tip to eat

more brown rice, barley, buckwheat and oats.

A Harvard Medical School study, published in the American Journal of

Public Health in September 2000, tracked the diets of 75,000+ women,

ages 38 to 63, for 10 years. When the study began, none had a

diagnosis of type-2 diabetes -- the increasingly common form of the

disease, which often strikes in middle age.

A decade later, nearly 2,000 of them did.

Whole Grains Reduce Risk

Participants who ate about three servings of whole-grain foods each

day were 27% less likely to develop diabetes.

Those who ate the most refined grains -- white rice, pasta, white

bread -- had a 57% higher risk of developing the disease.

Similarly, a University of Minnesota School of Public Health study

published in the April 2000 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

found that among the 35,000 older women enrolled in the Iowa Women's

Health Study -- a long-term study of diet and disease -- those who

ate the most whole grains were 21% less likely to develop diabetes

over a six-year period.

Although these studies looked only at women, " there's a fair amount

of evidence that the same things hold true for men, " notes

s, Ph.D., professor of epidemiology at the University of

Minnesota School of Public Health, and an author of the study.

A New Approach to Carbs

The idea that all carbohydrates are not created equal is a new theme

in diabetes prevention -- in the past, brown bread and beans were

lumped in the same category as crumb cakes and crullers.

" People haven't paid enough attention to the kind of carbohydrate

when it comes to type-2 diabetes, " says Simin Liu, M.D., Sc.D.,

principal author of the Harvard Medical School study.

How do whole grains protect? No one knows. But it is clear they offer

a package of beneficial nutrients and phytochemicals that could be

responsible, either individually or in combination.

" It could be dietary fiber or some of the minerals found in whole

grains, such as magnesium, chromium or other minerals not yet

studied, " suggests Lawrence H. Kushi, Ph.D., an author of the

Minnesota study and now Ella McCollum Vahlteich Professor in

Nutrition at Teacher's College, Columbia University in New York.

Keeping Blood Sugar in Check

Experts also point to whole grains' positive effects on blood sugar,

a key factor in diabetes. A diet that includes beans, vegetables and

fiber-rich fruits raises blood sugar levels less dramatically than

one heavier in refined grains, flour, sugar, and sugary sodas -- even

if the absolute amount of carbohydrates is exactly the same.

Fiber -- especially the kind found in beans, barley and oats -- is

one reason certain carbohydrate-rich diets raise blood sugar more

slowly than others. Another is " particle size " -- for instance, it

takes longer for your body to break down brown rice than brown rice

flour.

Since 1981, researchers have been measuring the " glycemic index " --

the tendency of a given amount of food to raise blood sugar levels in

the two hours after eating.

Carbohydrates that are slow to break down will release glucose into

the bloodstream gradually, and have a lower glycemic index. But foods

with a higher glycemic index tend to cause spikes in blood sugar,

putting more strain on the pancreas.

" Glycemic load " looks at the total amount of carbohydrates you eat as

well as their glycemic index. To reduce your glycemic load, improve

the quality of your carbohydrates. In short, eat more whole fruits

and vegetables.

Miavita Scientific Advisor Giovannucci, M.D., Sc.D., a co-

author of the Harvard study anticipates that " Whole grains and beans

will be shown to be more and more important in preventing chronic

disease in the coming years. There are a lot of studies in the

pipeline. "

" We now have solid evidence that diet matters, " says Dr.

Liu. " Diabetes is a very preventable disease. "

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It certainly makes sense. Consumption of trans fats can lead to

chronic inflammation and disease in the entire body. Regardless of

knees, I think everyone should make an effort to avoid trans fats.

And IMHO, I think everyone should supplement with Omega-3 fats.

- Doug

>

> Have any of you looked into the health consequences of including

> trans fats (from partially hydrogenated oil) in your diet?

>

> Some articles I have read claim that among many other things, they

> act to aggravate inflammation since they block essential fatty

acids

> (omega 3's) from getting into our cells.

>

> http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/conditioncardio/135/1/

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I found a cooking oil called Grape-Ola that has Omega-6 fatty acids in it. It's

about twice as high (per unit measure) in polyunsaturates, omega 6, and vit. E

than canola oil and about 5-6 times as high as olive oil. Despite its name, it

doesn't contain any canola oil.

Ann

Re: Diet

It certainly makes sense. Consumption of trans fats can lead to

chronic inflammation and disease in the entire body. Regardless of

knees, I think everyone should make an effort to avoid trans fats.

And IMHO, I think everyone should supplement with Omega-3 fats.

- Doug

>

> Have any of you looked into the health consequences of including

> trans fats (from partially hydrogenated oil) in your diet?

>

> Some articles I have read claim that among many other things, they

> act to aggravate inflammation since they block essential fatty

acids

> (omega 3's) from getting into our cells.

>

> http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/conditioncardio/135/1/

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> It certainly makes sense. Consumption of trans fats can lead to

> chronic inflammation and disease in the entire body. Regardless of

> knees, I think everyone should make an effort to avoid trans fats.

> And IMHO, I think everyone should supplement with Omega-3 fats.

>

> - Doug

Agreed. When you are shopping and pick up a food product, look at the

ingredient list and if it says " partially-hydrogenated vegetable oil "

just put it back on the shelf.

Or if you wait a few years, and these products will probably have FDA

warning labels.

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Congrats on the weight loss Jerre, also with the lack of gluten try

supplementing with fishoil and pick up some flaxseed oil (dont get

the capsules for flaxseed, far more expensive then just buying the

oil) Also pick up some Devils Claw and start taking that, ive been

meaning to the past 2 weeks but i procrastanate :)

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