Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 There is a group, GFCF kids, that has a lot of activity. You can find lots of info there. Pamela " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ask me I might tell you Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: [ ] diet I am new here and have not read near all the posts yet, but am working on it. I am finally convinced to try the chelation treatment and the gluten free diet. My problem is that there are only about 4 things Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten. I had always been told in the past by doctors and nutritionist to let him eat what he wants and supplement with vitamins. How do I get my son to eat the right things? Can I let him go hungry,for God knows how long? HELP! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days. The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with an opiate connection.) Cut out the gluten, COMPLETELY, no exceptions. See what happens over two weeks. He may not eat much for a couple of days, but give him fruit and healthy things that he likes, potatos, rice pasta (Whole foods now has Tinkyada pasta, a rice pasta). Don't worry that his diet is unbalanced for a couple of weeks - it will be well worth it if you can illuminate what is going on with him. Be sure you go 100% - some of these kids are incredibly sensitive to gluten. The GFCF list will give you an idea of the many products gluten is hidden. > >My problem is that there are only about 4 things > >Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten. > > One thing I have heard over and over is that if a child is eating > only one type of food, the chances are that he is sensitive to that > particular food. So if he only will eat wheat/dairy then he is > probably sensitive to them. Once removed, generally these kids start > eating all kinds of different things, but I don't know the details of > how to get there! > > > > Stroyan > www.empathic-discipline.com > Click here to email me directly: > <mailto:lstroyan@...>lstroyan@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for ten months. One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely. Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things from that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self- selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all food restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even better off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he did with dietary resrictions. Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible that another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all available options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me, and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we have a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with. Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now. René > > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days. > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with > an opiate connection.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 This is so interesting to me because I know the GFCF part has helped my son, but it is such a huge pain that I would love to try the Houston's enzymes. Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many did " the diet " as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured children doing the diet. We do " the diet " as a family - and would like to hear from others who do, too. joshisims <joshisims@...> wrote: Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for ten months. One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely. Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things from that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self- selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all food restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even better off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he did with dietary resrictions. Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible that another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all available options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me, and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we have a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with. Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now. René > > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days. > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with > an opiate connection.) --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 The fact that he self-restricts to gluten foods is a good indication that he would benefit from the diet. S S <br> Subject: [ ] diet<br> <br> I am new here and have not read near all the posts yet, but am working <br> on it. I am finally convinced to try the chelation treatment and the <br> gluten free diet. My problem is that there are only about 4 things <br> Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten. I had always <br> been told in the past by doctors and nutritionist to let him eat what <br> he wants and supplement with vitamins. How do I get my son to eat the <br> right things? Can I let him go hungry,for God knows how long? HELP!<br> Thank you. <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 > Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many did " the diet " as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured children doing the diet. Our diet history is first, Feingold -- n and me, and my daughter and husband cheat if they're out of the house. Then Houston enzymes (great response). Then SCD -- at first a decent improvement and then sailed downhill. n is still on enzymes and Feingold, although I suspect there are some foods he'd do better without. He gets on these jags, pretty much always about 4-5 foods, though they change every few months. Andy has a great post in the files section about how to choose the diet that's most likely to work for your kid. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning. I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong thing. I need help, so does Levi. Thank you! Sally Logan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 , We mostly do the diet as a family, because it makes life simpler and because my son had a strong emotional reaction to being left out. These days he has mellowed, and we sometimes eat other food. When I do that though, I always have to make sure he is having something that he really likes. m-Mercury , a b <anothersillyuserid@...> wrote: > > This is so interesting to me because I know the GFCF part has helped my son, but it is such a huge pain that I would love to try the Houston's enzymes. > > Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many did " the diet " as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured children doing the diet. > > We do " the diet " as a family - and would like to hear from others who do, too. > > > > joshisims <joshisims@...> wrote: > Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for ten months. > One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that > GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful > with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely. > Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded > within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took > out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things from > that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self- > selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only > two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and > eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all food > restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even better > off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he > did with dietary resrictions. > > Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible that > another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all available > options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me, > and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle > mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we have > a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with. > > Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now. > > René > > > > > > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving > > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days. > > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially > > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for > > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but > > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with > > an opiate connection.) > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Rene, For the record, we have also found more and more things had to be eliminated. I'm not sure I understand this, but I think, in part, it has to do with higher and higher standards for evaluating when he is " okay. " I know there are a lot of non-food irritants that we now recognize and didn't used to, things like molds, environmental chemicals etc. I have chalked it up to a combination of starting detox, and more accurately assessing his reactions. Don't know for sure though. I would definitely have tried enzymes if we didn't have an issue with so many things. I just couldn't handle adding something in that he was likely to react to when I was so busy trying to put out all these other fires. You make me wonder if I missed the forest for the trees though. > > > > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving > > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days. > > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially > > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for > > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but > > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with > > an opiate connection.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Hi , comments interspersed... > For the record, we have also found more and more things had to be > eliminated. I'm not sure I understand this, but I think, in part, it > has to do with higher and higher standards for evaluating when he > is " okay. " I know there are a lot of non-food irritants that we now > recognize and didn't used to, things like molds, environmental > chemicals etc. I have chalked it up to a combination of starting > detox, and more accurately assessing his reactions. Don't know for > sure though. This sounds plausible to me. The explaination I've heard is that because our kids have leaky guts, removing problem foods will temporarily help - until some other food (often a substitute for the first one) starts making its way through the gut wall. Then it begins to trigger IgG reactions too. This is why some people choose to rotate foods, and I think TACA has a really good article by Ackerman on how to rotate. http://www.tacanow.com/diet.htm However, another approach that is successful for many is using digestive enzymes - and in her book and website http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionleakygut.htm DeFelice talks about how enzymes can help leaky gut and all of the food sensitivities that go with it. > > I would definitely have tried enzymes if we didn't have an issue with > so many things. I just couldn't handle adding something in that he > was likely to react to when I was so busy trying to put out all these > other fires. You make me wonder if I missed the forest for the trees > though. , if the diet is working well for you, great! And if you do want to try enzymes at some point, you can, but it doesn't have to happen when you are feeling swamped by all sorts of other challenges. Starting enzymes was a bit tricky for us because they can stir things up for a few weeks, but they have *really made a difference. take care René Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Sally, welcome to Autism Mercury. there is a really helpful beginner's guide here: http://www.treatingautism.com/ I would recommend getting a DDI hair elements profile. You may also want to go to www.noamalgam.com and purchase Andy Cutler's books. There are two: Hair Test Interpretation will help you evaluate your son's test to check for mercury toxicity and a lot of other useful things. Amalgam Illness is a great resource on how to chelate. In the meantime, the files of this group have lots of great information on how to chelate safely. There is a supplements file that has Andy's recommendations for supplements during chelation (look at the end of the document). It takes a while to get all of the supplements started, so if you think you might be chelating, you could start on that now while you are waiting for results. These are generally helpful supplements for our kids anyhow. As someone already mentioned, there is also a good file by Andy on how to choose the right diet for your son. Take care -- Please feel free to ask lots of questions! René In , " Sally Logan " <whatsherface65@...> wrote: > > Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my > family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting > here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse > and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning. > I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I > start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a > toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong > thing. I need help, so does Levi. > Thank you! > Sally Logan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi Sally, Welcome to the list. The DDI hair elements test (to which you then apply the counting rules) is a good place to start. How many mercury amalgam dental fillings does your son have? If he has any, they will have to be removed by a mercury-free dentist using proper protocol before you can safely chelate. S S <p>Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my <br> family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting <br> here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse <br> and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning. <br> I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I <br> start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a <br> toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong <br> thing. I need help, so does Levi. <br> Thank you!<br> Sally Logan<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Sally, Get into the files of this list and start reading. Also, Children with Starving Brains by Mccandleless is good. You can also try the Generation Rescue website, along with the Autism Research Institute, etc. Be aware that there are many different protocols people are using now. Yes, confusing for newbies, but just read first, then ask your questions to the list. Barb [ ] Re: diet Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning. I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong thing. I need help, so does Levi. Thank you! Sally Logan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find a perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets that make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too. Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping a diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can be aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue. The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each one is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. If you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do- able'. > > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is a tough > one. > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 In a message dated 8/24/2006 3:30:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jcovert1@... writes: I recently was see by a lyme disease Doctor, I was Dx with MS 2 years ago. I am on copaxone and Ldn (5 Months). He was very good to me and spend about 4 hours with me, in between test. The one thing he tested me for was food allergies. Surprise to me because i am 47 and never thought I had any allergies. I came back postive to dairy, wheat, and yeast. No surprise to the doctor he said many people with MS have some allergy. (dairy being the big one) He wants me off of these for 14 days to see if I have any improvement. I'm on day 4 and yes I do see a improvment. If you have anymore questions please e mail me, I was really surprised by the test he's putting me thu. He feels that a Dx on MS means that they can now treat the symptons, he was to get to the root of the problem and treat that, take care nn ----- Original Message ----- From: lkilcollin@... low dose naltrexone Dear nn Yes I am allergic to all dairy also, this disease has many similarities. (allergy's) I could eat anything, not now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 , I recently was see by a lyme disease Doctor, I was Dx with MS 2 years ago. I am on copaxone and Ldn (5 Months). He was very good to me and spend about 4 hours with me, in between test. The one thing he tested me for was food allergies. Surprise to me because i am 47 and never thought I had any allergies. I came back postive to dairy, wheat, and yeast. No surprise to the doctor he said many people with MS have some allergy. (dairy being the big one) He wants me off of these for 14 days to see if I have any improvement. I'm on day 4 and yes I do see a improvment. If you have anymore questions please e mail me, I was really surprised by the test he's putting me thu. He feels that a Dx on MS means that they can now treat the symptons, he was to get to the root of the problem and treat that, take care nn [low dose naltrexone] Diet I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is a tough one. Thanks No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/427 - Release Date: 8/24/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 --- Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink, Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but still need more help. thanks, nancy In low dose naltrexone , " perfectlysunnyday " <mmmorris@...> wrote: > > Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does > best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find > a > perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair > ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets > that > make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too. > > Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for > explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes > on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the > more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping > a > diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can > be > aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue. > > The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each > one > is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard > discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. > If > you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of > the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do- > able'. > > > > > > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is > a > tough > > one. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Make sure it is undenatured whey protein powder which raises levels of l-glutithione, the master anti-oxidant. I could fax you an article on its potential value in helping ms. I can look up where I get mine if you are interested. Best, Kathy [low dose naltrexone] Re: Diet ---Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink, Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but still need more help. thanks, nancyIn low dose naltrexone , "perfectlysunnyday" <mmmorris@...> wrote:>> Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does > best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find > a > perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair > ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets > that > make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.> > Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for > explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes > on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the > more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping > a > diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can > be > aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.> > The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each > one > is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard > discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. > If > you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of > the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-> able'.> > > >> > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is > a > tough > > one.> > > > Thanks> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 There is an excellent book called "Gut Solutions" by Watkins. L-glutamine in powdered from helps the mucosa lining of the stomach and helps heal leaky gut plus a multitude of additional problems related to the intestines. Make sure you take plenty of oil to facilitate bowel movements and refrigerate those EFAS to prevent oxidation. Best, Kathy [low dose naltrexone] Re: Diet ---Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink, Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but still need more help. thanks, nancyIn low dose naltrexone , "perfectlysunnyday" <mmmorris@...> wrote:>> Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does > best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find > a > perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair > ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets > that > make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.> > Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for > explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes > on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the > more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping > a > diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can > be > aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.> > The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each > one > is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard > discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. > If > you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of > the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-> able'.> > > >> > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is > a > tough > > one.> > > > Thanks> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 In a message dated 8/25/2006 11:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ninatorney@... writes: mmmorris@...> I would like the name of that book please! Thanks!- Chriss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I am not sure if once you are proven allergic to caesin or whole wheat if you are supposed to consume any other then ofcourse by sheer accident. The slow hidden allergic reaction results in behavioral issues but too slower cognitive processing and sharpness. That's what I've seen anyway. Alot has changed since the late 90's, now there is Silk Vanilla Soy milk for cereal, Silk soy smoothies, We all know now we can make these great pizzas using Goat Cheese...California Pizza Franchise Restaurants carry a goat cheese pizza too if you like eat in or delivery. There is even healthy dark choclate bars that contain no milk (a little pricey...$2.00 a bar). And ofcourse there is the equivalent of Ben and Jerry's in Dream Rice Rice Cream. Its come along way.....my kids don't even miss dairy or whole wheat. cat Momofmanysix@... wrote: Any opinions on food allergies? Our daughter shows positive reaction on the elisa blood test to many foods. I really don't see a change in her whether she eats the foods or doesn't. Is this test that reliable? We definately noticed behavior improvements 5 years ago when we started GFCF. Now she seems to be able to tolerate both in moderation. How do you determine for sure if kids shouldn't have certain foods (especially gluten and casein? N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Some kids do not react well to rice milk if made from brown rice And now a friend told me soy could be a problem for boys anybody hear of this? Thanks > Any opinions on food allergies? Our daughter shows positive reaction on the > elisa blood test to many foods. I really don't see a change in her whether > she eats the foods or doesn't. Is this test that reliable? We definately > noticed behavior improvements 5 years ago when we started GFCF. Now she seems to > be able to tolerate both in moderation. How do you determine for sure if kids > shouldn't have certain foods (especially gluten and casein? N. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Kerry, I am feeling a bit better now. I still have that hungry feeling especially after a hard workout. I always crave the healthy stuff. Chocolate I can take or leave it – I only eat it on special occasions. I’d rather have an apple than an apple tart. A wee bit of sugar in muffins is fine, but I don’t like sugary or salty things. Where I go wrong is eating too much fruit and whole wheat bread. I love rolls with sunflower seeds and for a snack have been known to eat 2 of them. I do drink soda (not for the last 5 days though) but mostly because it is there and it has caffeine. I suppose I could brew some tea and keep it in the fridge but soda is easier and bottled tea (from the store) tastes horrible to me. Granted so does soda… I pig out on fruit. Carrots aren’t safe in this house. And most of the vegetables should run or they will disappear. LOL What I don’t crave is meat or milk or cheese or eggs. I can take or leave those. I know I need some protein but I don’t pig out on it like I see some people do. If I added a bit more protein, subtracted some fruits and got rid of the soda I would probably have pretty close to the ideal eating habits. It is only 1 more day now so no problems. I did grab a grapefruit today when I realized my bf was going to be gone all day (on a Sunday and day 5 of our 6 day diet when he assured me he would be here so we could finish it out great) It made me feel better (fruit is like stress food for me I guess, I eat it when I am upset, unhappy or stressed) But I cheated. Oh well. My normal measure day is Sunday (today) and I measured and no change from last week. So I guess I’m not going to lose any inches doing this. I did learn a new way to cook chicken breasts. If you put them in a pan with a lid in the oven they don’t get so dried out (I usually pan cook mine in seasonings or olive oil, because of the whole dried out issue.) They sort of steam like this and can get flavorful if you add some seasonings or vegetables. I also tried a bit of sesame oil on a salad and it is fabulous –either plain or mixed with balsamic vinegar. YUMMY I usually eat my salads plain but this was good. Also we usually only have salmon, but this week we also had some kind of white fish and some really good tuna steaks. And they were great. And I’m usually not adventurous with salads. I use spinach and whatever vegetables are on hand. But adding a wee bit of fish or meat changes the taste. And broccoli and cauliflower makes a good salad in itself (found that out when I forgot to buy mixed salad greens) Also I realized that those packaged salad greens are best if eaten on the same day. So I am learning tons, but am looking forward to Tuesday when I will have some fruit and bread for breakfast. A nice vegetable soup for lunch. And pasta and vegetables for dinner. Along with some snacks like carrots and peaches and maybe even a roll. And I might even have a glass of fresh squeezed juice. 1 day left and I survived! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kerry Kramer Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: Re: I think I must be crazy Hi , Sometimes it takes a while for your body to adjust to a new way of eating. Keep drinking the water. I noticed that your cravings are for healthy foods, which is good. At least you aren't craving the " bad " stuff like junk food. I hope this helps your bf. I think it's wonderful you are doing this together. Kerry I have never dieted in my whole life (I eat relatively healthy so never saw the need too), so I can not believe I am doing the diet thing. Especially one that is designed for short term (this one is 6 days) I keep repeating it is only 6 days, only 6 days, only 6 days, but I am hungry. I keep putting a brave face on it (the reason I am dieting is because I want to show my bf I appreciate him and if he can diet then I can too.) I had a smoothie for breakfast, a handful of almonds for a snack, a turkey spinach salad for lunch and cottage cheese and blueberries for snack. It doesn’t sound like I would be hungry but I am. But no cheating! Only 6 days, 6 days.. What I want is a whole wheat roll with sunflower seeds and then some peaches and maybe an apple and some carrots and then maybe a slice of bread and some pasta. Dinner is 4oz of fish and 2 cups of asparagus. And then no food until tomorrow. I can do it…..I have drunk a ton of water today – it doesn’t seem to help the hungry feelings. But if he can do it I can too! I figured out his main diet problem – he doesn’t eat all day and then eats everything in sight from dinner time to bedtime. He says he is too busy at work to eat. Hopefully this is something we can work on. .._,___ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 , Good to hear you are feeling better. I think that's great you always crave healthy stuff. Did you grow up eating healthy foods? Your cravings are far more healthy than the norm, which is great! Although I guess too many rolls can be bad. Bottled tea does taste horrible, the only iced tea our family will drink is Nestea Tropical blend. Do you like hot tea, or flavoured teas? Don't worry about the grapefruit, it doesn't have too many calories, plus it made you feel better, so that is good. I never thought of using sesame oil on a salad, I do like balsamic vinegar and olive oil, so will probably like this as well. Glad to hear you survived; enjoy your Tuesday feast. Kerry Kerry, I am feeling a bit better now. I still have that hungry feeling especially after a hard workout. I always crave the healthy stuff. Chocolate I can take or leave it – I only eat it on special occasions. I’d rather have an apple than an apple tart. A wee bit of sugar in muffins is fine, but I don’t like sugary or salty things. Where I go wrong is eating too much fruit and whole wheat bread. I love rolls with sunflower seeds and for a snack have been known to eat 2 of them. I do drink soda (not for the last 5 days though) but mostly because it is there and it has caffeine. I suppose I could brew some tea and keep it in the fridge but soda is easier and bottled tea (from the store) tastes horrible to me. Granted so does soda… I pig out on fruit. Carrots aren’t safe in this house. And most of the vegetables should run or they will disappear. LOL What I don’t crave is meat or milk or cheese or eggs. I can take or leave those. I know I need some protein but I don’t pig out on it like I see some people do. If I added a bit more protein, subtracted some fruits and got rid of the soda I would probably have pretty close to the ideal eating habits. It is only 1 more day now so no problems. I did grab a grapefruit today when I realized my bf was going to be gone all day (on a Sunday and day 5 of our 6 day diet when he assured me he would be here so we could finish it out great) It made me feel better (fruit is like stress food for me I guess, I eat it when I am upset, unhappy or stressed) But I cheated. Oh well. My normal measure day is Sunday (today) and I measured and no change from last week. So I guess I’m not going to lose any inches doing this. I did learn a new way to cook chicken breasts. If you put them in a pan with a lid in the oven they don’t get so dried out (I usually pan cook mine in seasonings or olive oil, because of the whole dried out issue.) They sort of steam like this and can get flavorful if you add some seasonings or vegetables. I also tried a bit of sesame oil on a salad and it is fabulous –either plain or mixed with balsamic vinegar. YUMMY I usually eat my salads plain but this was good. Also we usually only have salmon, but this week we also had some kind of white fish and some really good tuna steaks. And they were great. And I’m usually not adventurous with salads. I use spinach and whatever vegetables are on hand. But adding a wee bit of fish or meat changes the taste. And broccoli and cauliflower makes a good salad in itself (found that out when I forgot to buy mixed salad greens) Also I realized that those packaged salad greens are best if eaten on the same day. So I am learning tons, but am looking forward to Tuesday when I will have some fruit and bread for breakfast. A nice vegetable soup for lunch. And pasta and vegetables for dinner. Along with some snacks like carrots and peaches and maybe even a roll. And I might even have a glass of fresh squeezed juice. 1 day left and I survived! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 In our house junk food was a special occasion thing, but not really because it was healthier but because it was cheaper. I remember being able to eat all the apples, carrots and oranges (and bread) I wanted. And in season fruit was shared equally. Out of season fruit was rare. When I was growing up fresh fruits and vegetables were cheaper than junk food. And we always had a selection of frozen vegetables to eat as well. Meals contained lots of starch (rice, bread, potatoes) and vegetables and a little bit of meat. Although it was mostly for economical reasons, I learned about balanced meals and how to make balanced meals (when we started cooking dinners forgetting a vegetable was Not Done) I think most of the lower middle class ate that way in the 80’s (when I was growing up) As I grew older we moved into middle class fully and then had more junk food available but I just didn’t want it. We did used to eat white bread which I can’t even imagine eating now. I have cravings for grilled cheese sandwiches which were a sort of comfort food when I was growing up. And soup too for the same reason. And in season fruit and vegetables. And as a teen I knew that fatty food would make me fat – I didn’t lose the last of my “baby fat” until I was 18. And once on my own I realized fresh fruits, vegetables, starches and beans were cheaper than meat. Ah ha a savings in the budget and healthy too. Only as I had my own kids have I started to think this is healthy this isn’t and mostly because my son can’t take artificial flavors or colors or he acts autistic. But because we ate mostly healthy growing up, these are the things that taste good to me (I have a friend who had the opposite reaction – ate the same as me growing up now can’t get enough of chips and chocolate). I do like hot tea but most of the time I sip liquid. For example I will take 1 sip of whatever drink is in the fridge and put it back. I rarely drink a whole cup of anything so a cup of hot tea gets wasted, plus I’m lazy – too much work to make tea. I love herbal teas though. I tend to have a cup in the evening or morning while I read my email. I think I should make a pot of tea and put it in the fridge. I used to do that when I was nursing. I bought loose herbs and would mix them or just have a single one according to what I felt like. The right sort of herbal tea helps the milk. I have to make it easy though because life is so busy. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kerry Kramer Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:34 AM Subject: Re: diet , Good to hear you are feeling better. I think that's great you always crave healthy stuff. Did you grow up eating healthy foods? Your cravings are far more healthy than the norm, which is great! Although I guess too many rolls can be bad. Bottled tea does taste horrible, the only iced tea our family will drink is Nestea Tropical blend. Do you like hot tea, or flavoured teas? Don't worry about the grapefruit, it doesn't have too many calories, plus it made you feel better, so that is good. I never thought of using sesame oil on a salad, I do like balsamic vinegar and olive oil, so will probably like this as well. Glad to hear you survived; enjoy your Tuesday feast. Kerry ,___ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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